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Old 01-25-2010, 20:20   #1
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Mo-Rod Stabilizer

Whats up everyone, its been about two months since i joined the site, and wanted to throw my two cents in on the accurizing thread. I purchased a Mo-Rod stabilizer and I am impressed with the results. I said i would post pics, and i will, but for now im just bragging on the new part. I ordered the part from the website, www.mo-rod.com. Kelly, the individual i talked too, and the manufacturer of the part, was 100% professional, courteous, and and absolute pleasure to deal with. Since im active duty military, he also shipped the part for free, netting a total price of $88. The parts are machined from aluminum and fit exceptionally well. All you have to do is let him know what serial prefix your rifle is and they will get you the stabilizer you need, blued or stainless. The ammo i use varies on what i can afford that week, like I said Im active duty with three kids lol , but primarily I shoot with 55gr UMC boattails, then 55gr PMC bronze, and lastly the Wolf .223 when the local gun shop has it.
This part has eliminated the stringing(and my particular mini was famous for it) i got after the barrel warmed up, and the groups are noticeably tighter, but i wont give out numbers till i can back them up with proof. It takes 2 minutes to install and even spruces up the look a little bit in the process. I wouldnt brag on this part if i didnt feel it worked. If you have the $95 bucks to get one, do it. Ill post pics within the next month. The website again is www.mo-rod.com. Take care fellow patriots and defenders of democracy, God speed.
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I got a Mo-Rod for my Mini from Kelly too and they work great!

Excellent product, price and service, what more do I need to say???

PS: GreaseMonkey, thank you for your service to our Country!!!!
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Thumbs up MoRod

Hey grease,I too purchased a MoRod during his first run. It did improve my shooting. Lord knows I can use all the help I can get Just got his new and improved clamps,plus I sent my stabilizer bar back to be refinished. Big difference in appearence. Yes he is a stand up guy and follows through on his products. Money well spent ......Joe

By the way thank you for your service to our country. Like my shooting ability it needs all the help it can get. Be safe
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I'm torn on these struts. The Mo-Rod has those ugly giant clamps that screams aftermarket attempt at strapping something to my mini, while the Accu-strut guy can't figure out which product he actually wants to provide and/or keep in stock. Even though his product looks much better.
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I have to disagree with jmano . But I guess thats why they make green cars and red cars. In my opinion all the struts (3 that I know of) on the market accomplish the same end result with a slightly different approach on appearence..................Joe
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Originally Posted by jmano View Post
I'm torn on these struts. The Mo-Rod has those ugly giant clamps that screams aftermarket attempt at strapping something to my mini, while the Accu-strut guy can't figure out which product he actually wants to provide and/or keep in stock. Even though his product looks much better.
Ugly "giant" clamps??? The reason I picked the Mo-Rod is because it DIDN"T have the big ugly clamps on it.

Here's my Mini with Mo-Rod installed:
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Originally Posted by joehorner View Post
Just got his new and improved clamps,plus I sent my stabilizer bar back to be refinished. Big difference in appearance.
Hi Joe,

Just curious...What do you mean about "new and improved clamps"? Do you mean the clamps for the tapered barrels?

Also, was the finish on your stabilizer bar different than the new clamps? Or, did it start to wear?

In short, I'm currently looking at getting tri-mounted barrel strut system, and there's three to choose from...Har-Bar, Accu-strut, and the Mo-Rod.

So, I'm merely asking around to see what others are experiencing with each.

Thanks in advance for your input and comments.

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Hey alaj70. I purchased one of the first run of MoRod from Kelly last year. His original clamps were OK. He currently is producing a third generation clamps. They are thicker and a little wider. Plus his original finish was a little so-so. I just repainted mine. I actually contacted him about doubling up on the existing clamps. He recommended buying his new and thicker clamps instead. He also told me to send him my old rod and clamps to be refinished. He now uses KG Gun Koat which has to be baked on. His product definitly works and it looks like it belongs on the mini. If you decide to get the MoRod tell him Joe sent you. He is a stand up guy and easy to deal with.........Joe
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I think it's great that they are three struts to choose from...Har-Bar, Accu-strut, and the Mo-Rod. This is what make america great to me having the right to choose
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Originally Posted by jmano View Post
I'm torn on these struts. The Mo-Rod has those ugly giant clamps that screams aftermarket attempt at strapping something to my mini, while the Accu-strut guy can't figure out which product he actually wants to provide and/or keep in stock. Even though his product looks much better.
I can appreciate the frustration on the availability issues with the Accu-strut, particularly at a time when we are restructuring the product line. We are trying to be responsive to our customers, but understand this is not an easy process. Realize also that we are still a small company, have some limits on our production capability, and demand for the strut generally outpaces our ability to make them.

Thank you for your compliment on the appearance!

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Originally Posted by Snake_Driver View Post
Ugly "giant" clamps??? The reason I picked the Mo-Rod is because it DIDN"T have the big ugly clamps on it.

Here's my Mini with Mo-Rod installed:
I'm actually glad to have decided on die-cut flat clamps. The design is inherently flexible and not only accomodates different barrel diameters, but also the tapered portion that all new barrels will now have.
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I have to agree 100%. In my opinion all three are great products and all the people who have evaluated them are positive. Best part is "Made in America by Americans" .......................Joe
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Originally Posted by Snake_Driver View Post
Ugly "giant" clamps??? The reason I picked the Mo-Rod is because it DIDN"T have the big ugly clamps on it.

Here's my Mini with Mo-Rod installed:
I agree with you Snake that the clamps on your mini looks great, but those are not the same as the ones shown in the pictures on the Mo-Rod site linked above. If you look at your clamps they have a thinner side profile and the material is not as thick. You can see by the amount of material on the side of each of your screws compared to the ones on the site. Your clamps protrude maybe half the distance over the top of the barrel as the ones on the Mo-Rod site.

I'm curious, how long ago did you buy yours? If the pictures on the site are outdated and your clamps are more accurate as to what I would get or if you purchased yours awhile ago and the site's picture is what I would get.

If so...How much do you want for your clamps

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Just ask Kelly if he still has any of the old clamps through his web site. I just upgraded to his newer clamps. I already have plans for my old ones. Sorry I know if he has them he will sell them along with his strut. The man is easy to deal with...............Joe
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I guess I was unaware that Kelly had changed his clamp design. I was one of his first few customers, so it's been over a year since I obtained my Mo-Rod. I agree that if you inquire you can probably still get Kelly to provide you with some of the old clamps. Frankly, the difference between the two doesn't seem that extreme to me They still look slimmer than the other strut designs that I've seen.

I appreciate the offer, but unfortunately, I'm using mine so I don't want to part with them.
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Originally Posted by joehorner View Post
Hey alaj70. I purchased one of the first run of MoRod from Kelly last year. His original clamps were OK. He currently is producing a third generation clamps. They are thicker and a little wider. Plus his original finish was a little so-so. I just repainted mine. I actually contacted him about doubling up on the existing clamps. He recommended buying his new and thicker clamps instead. He also told me to send him my old rod and clamps to be refinished. He now uses KG Gun Koat which has to be baked on. His product definitly works and it looks like it belongs on the mini. If you decide to get the MoRod tell him Joe sent you. He is a stand up guy and easy to deal with.........Joe
Joe,

Thanks for all your input. It's helpful.

Yeah, I actually bought a used Harris bi-pod from Kelly when he was still an active member on the PU (I enjoyed his posts.). I agree; he's a stand-up guy to work with.

My main concern is with movement of the barrel strut. In fact, it's why I've decided to go with a tri-mounted strut.

I know that kkina is coming out with a new, lighter Accu-strut, and I'd be curious to see how that looks/functions.

Frankly, I would prefer clamps that go around the barrel and the barrel strut (e.g Mo-Rod & Har-Bar). And, I'd like to see two screws on the barrel clamps, as opposed to one screw. This is where I give an edge to the clamps that come with the Har-Bar design. Just one man's opinion (JOMO).

Over the next few months, I'm going to be conducting a number of accuracy "experiments" with my Mini rifles. You see, when I bought my Mini's, I immediately cryoed the receiver/barrel assembly and I put an Accu-strut on each. So, in effect, I never had a "baseline" to start measuring from. What can I say, I was impatient.

Anyway, I've since removed the barrel struts. And, I'm going to start with just a cryoed barrel. Frankly, I'm curious to see just how well a cryoed barrel can shoot without any strut affixed to it.

Next, I'm going to swap-out the gas bushings and see what happens. (I'm not expecting much, if any, accuracy improvement. But, I want to be able to gauge the difference in where the brass lands.)

Then, I'm going to add a barrel strut. And, this is where I will be able to measure the delta associated with the barrel strut being added, as opposed to the barrel alone.

I've got some time, and since I have been a customer of kkina, I'm going to wait and see what his new lightweight and ultra-lightweight struts look like and what their features are.

But, at the same time, I may just wind-up getting one of each and doing my own head-to-head show down. Now, that would really be interesting, huh?

Thanks again, Joe!

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As far as movement this has not been an issue with the MoRod that I have bought. The clamps that I had were a tight fit. When I placed the clamp on the barrel I had to push it down in order to get it to stay put. It was so close it would not even shake off before the screw was even started. The new clamps are the same way but just beefier. I used blue loctite on all the threads but not on the clamps where they contacted the barrel or strut.....Joe
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Originally Posted by joehorner View Post
As far as movement this has not been an issue with the MoRod that I have bought. The clamps that I had were a tight fit. When I placed the clamp on the barrel I had to push it down in order to get it to stay put. It was so close it would not even shake off before the screw was even started. The new clamps are the same way but just beefier. I used blue loctite on all the threads but not on the clamps where they contacted the barrel or strut.....Joe
Thanks for the heads-up, Joe.

Kelly's Mo-Rod is definitely in the running for me.

Just out of curiosity, are you using the Mo-Rod on a tapered styled barrel, or an older straight one?

Thanks, man!

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Alaj, a head to head test would be very interesting! Were you thinking of a test between the old accustrut and the new light weight ones, or a test between accustrut, harbar, and morod? If I had to guess the outcome, I would think the older heavier ones would be more accurate, more weight, more dampening.
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Alaj....... I have a 186xxx mini pencil barrel. Yes it has improved my accuracy and it also works as a heat sink. My barrel is 18 1/2" and is being cut down to a little under 17" as we speak. I will be using a Ruger F/H off of my SR-22. It is the same as the Mini tactical and the SR-556. It's gotta help plus it will look good mixing the new with the old..............Joe
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Looks a lot like the Har-Bar. Still partial to the Accu-strut, but as long as they work, make are guns more accurate and fun, thats all that matters in the end.
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I had my 183-series Mini out to the range on Friday to test some new H335 handloads I'd just made up and I continue to be impressed with how much better it shoots with the Mo-Rod installed. The stringing issue has been completely resolved. Hot or cold, rapid fire or single shot the point of impact stays constant.

I was shooting all 55 grain bullets and had some factory rounds along for control samples and also some W748 & H4895's that I made at an earlier date. Surprisingly, all of the different loads had the same point of impact and that's good. That's also a new development since the Mo-Rod has been installed. The H335 rounds did very good, but the H4895 were especially accurate. All were loaded to achieve around 3,000 fps at the muzzle.

One humorous moment was when a fellow shooter came over and asked me how I liked my Springfield. He was somewhat embarrased when I ponted out it was "Mini-14" and not a M-14. With the strut on the Mini it does look a lot like it's dad.
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Thumbs up Heads up on MoRod for 180xxx ownwers

While my 186 mini is apart my neighbor and I took my 186xx MoRod and tried to attach it to his pristine 180xxx. It does fit with one small hitch. We had to punch out the front sling attachment. IT fits great and looks like it belongs. He has had problems with stringing on a hot barrel. The new MoRod is on the way and I am sure that issue will be behind him for now. When both are back together I will post pics of the so called MoRod cousins......Joe
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I'm torn on these struts. The Mo-Rod has those ugly giant clamps
I think the more massive the clamp, and the more contact area it has with the barrel, the better it will function as a heat sink...

it looks funky, but keeps the barrel cooler...

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