Ruger Mini-14 and Mini-30 Ruger Mini-14 and Mini-30 family of rifles

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Old 11-20-2009, 18:01   #1
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Choate M4 Telescoping Pistol Grip for Mini 14

Anybody tried one of these?

http://www.riflestock.com/catalog_pa...3&NewProduct=0
Looks like a nice product but I'm concerned that the comb/stock would be too high to use the iron sights on my Mini 14 Tactical. I figure that a good sight alignment/ cheek weld requires about 1.5" of space between the top of the comb and the line of sight (for me at least).

Thanks for any feedback.
-Jim

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Old 11-20-2009, 19:13   #2
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I made one of those years ago using a Choate PG stock, an ACE pig nose adapter, and an M-4 collapsible stock.

It was not too high to use the irons (which is what I primarily had it set-up for.)
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Old 11-21-2009, 06:34   #3
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Cool. Did you cut and mount it parallel to the bore?

Choate should sell the front of that stock without the M4 part attached.
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Did you cut and mount it parallel to the bore?
Yes. Sorry I don't have a photo of it anymore. I sold it to another forum member.
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I just wrote to Choate asking them to make a stock with both the M4 telescoping feature and a folding side arm. The stock would then be just like that of the SIG-556 SWAT Classic. If any of you are also interested in such a stock made, please write Choate at ccmmtt@ipa.net. If enough of us write, they just might make it.
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I had a Choate stock for my Mini, worst stock I ever owned, the stock has to much flex to it. You can twist the stock with your bare hands, I gave it to a guy at the range, he later threw it in the garbage.
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Originally Posted by RJSIXGUN View Post
I had a Choate stock for my Mini, worst stock I ever owned, the stock has to much flex to it. You can twist the stock with your bare hands, I gave it to a guy at the range, he later threw it in the garbage.

BS! You either have a bone to pick with Choate or you are just trolling.
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Old 11-22-2009, 19:19   #8
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Originally Posted by Nobody View Post
BS! You either have a bone to pick with Choate or you are just trolling.

Umm yeah I'm a troll been a trolling member since 2003............


CHOATE STOCKS are not stable, and flex to easy...........Hey if you dont believe me buy one and twist the forend for yourself, and while your at it give it a little sqeeze....see how much it bends,

but what do I know I've only been here on this forum since 2003.....

LOOSE THE ATTITUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by RJSIXGUN View Post
Umm yeah I'm a troll been a trolling member since 2003............


CHOATE STOCKS are not stable, and flex to easy...........Hey if you dont believe me buy one and twist the forend for yourself, and while your at it give it a little sqeeze....see how much it bends,

but what do I know I've only been here on this forum since 2003.....

LOOSE THE ATTITUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I own two of them; one for each of my Mini-14s. And if you are claiming that you can twist the stock with the receiver in it, then you are either King Kong or a liar, and we know that King Kong doesn't use a computer. And are we really supposed to believe that you gave away a stock that costs approximately $100? What are we to make of you?

Now, I hope you're not talking about flexing and squeezing the stock WITHOUT the receiver in it. That would be like saying a car's tire couldn't support a car's weight because it twisted and deformed when it was not mounted on the wheel and inflated. Please tell us that you weren't testing the rigidity of the stock without the rifle in it! If this was the case, then the next thing you'll be telling us is that Hogue and Pachmayr grips and stocks are no good because they flex and squish when they're not mounted on guns.

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hey "NOBODY", why did you edit your post ?
---End Quote---

I own two of them; one for each of my Mini-14s. And if you are claiming that you can twist the stock with the receiver in it, then you are either King Kong or a liar. And are we really supposed to believe that you gave away a stock that costs approximately $100?

I'll keep my attitude for people like you.
***************

You called me a "LIAR" and are personally attacking and slaming, that is clearly against the rules of this good forum.
Slamming

Perhaps you should read the rules befor fly'n off the handle on people, people here are good respectable people, calling people "LIAR" or "Trolls" well thats just not cival.

again LOOSE THE ATTITUDE.
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Old 11-22-2009, 21:03   #11
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Originally Posted by RJSIXGUN View Post
hey "NOBODY", why did you edit your post ?
---End Quote---

I own two of them; one for each of my Mini-14s. And if you are claiming that you can twist the stock with the receiver in it, then you are either King Kong or a liar. And are we really supposed to believe that you gave away a stock that costs approximately $100?

I'll keep my attitude for people like you.
***************

You called me a "LIAR" and are personally attacking and slaming, that is clearly against the rules of this good forum.
Slamming

Perhaps you should read the rules befor fly'n off the handle on people, people here are good respectable people, calling people "LIAR" or "Trolls" well thats just not cival.

again LOOSE THE ATTITUDE.
I edited my post before you replied because it suddenly occurred to me that you might be talking about an empty stock. If you were, then you're just naive and not a "liar', and for that I apologize. If you were talking about a stock with a rifle mounted in it, well, if the shoe fits, wear it, as they say.

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Old 11-23-2009, 04:37   #12
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Originally Posted by Nobody View Post
I edited my post before you replied because it suddenly occurred to me that you might be talking about an empty stock. If you were, then you're just naive and not a "liar', and for that I apologize. If you were talking about a stock with a rifle mounted in it, well, if the shoe fits, wear it, as they say.
Naive? ok then you should call McMillian stocks and explane your "car tire" theary to them, as a matter of fact you should call every stock maker and explane how you want an unstable shooting platform to hold your rifle in.
Honestly, with all those names youve been calling me I thik you just proved who the "naive" person is.

Bell and Carlson, Butler Creek, McMillian, Brown or any stock on any military or match grade rifle DOES NOT FLEX AND TWIST, some of them are even steel beded, but you want yours to flex.......OK good luck to ya!

I never heard of anyone argueing for a more flexable stock befor. Maybe you should really run with this idea and make a stock out of "Silly Putty"

O all those poor "Naive" "Ape" Liar" and "Troll" stock companies makeing all types of steel bedding stocks and all us Natl Match shooters wanting stable stocks for there rifles, if they only knew your "Car Tire" theory on why stocks dont need to be stable. How could we have over looked this all these years???? How? Stocks that will flex as you shoot, my word your a genious!!! And if you use "Silly Putty" it will never brake! you can just re-shape it!!! AWSOME!!!!
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Old 11-24-2009, 12:15   #13
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Originally Posted by Nobody View Post
I just wrote to Choate asking them to make a stock with both the M4 telescoping feature and a folding side arm. The stock would then be just like that of the SIG-556 SWAT Classic. If any of you are also interested in such a stock made, please write Choate at ccmmtt@ipa.net. If enough of us write, they just might make it.
Choate replied to my e-mail:

We have looked at making one but don't have any plans at this time.
Thanks"

Additional messages might make them reconsider
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RJSIXGUN,

The instructions for the Choate stocks clearly state that you first have to install the steel stock reinforcement from your wooden stock into the Choate stock. Then, you install the receiver. Try reading and following the instructions first, before you bad-mouth a product.
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Originally Posted by Nobody View Post
RJSIXGUN,

The instructions for the Choate stocks clearly state that you first have to install the steel stock reinforcement from your wooden stock into the Choate stock. Then, you install the receiver. Try reading and following the instructions first, before you bad-mouth a product.
Try Loosing the Attitude, the steel liners will freefloate in a choate stock, and they do not make the stock rigid, they will keep gases from burning the stock though, but you'll notice Ruger left them out on some of the 14's as they were really not needed.

But keep working on that flexable stock theory. Put your stock all together and give it a twist! heck put your rifle in the stock and give the forend a little squeez and a little twist.........O yeah thats gonna be accurate with that play in the stock.

Hey you get what you pay for, Cheap price = cheap stock! And flexable too! just they way you like it!
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Actually RJSIXGUN, the Choate stocks are made to take the reinforcement. There are indentations in the stock made for them, as well as screw holes to bolt them in; there's no free-floating of the reinforcements.

Both of my rifles print under 2" at 100 yards.
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2 inches at 100 yards!!!!!!!! Thats a like a shot gun pattern. A Mini can do better trust me, my old 1-7 Mini will clover leaf with a Butler Creek folder and 69gr Feds.

Look I know what your after but that Choate stock is just a bad idea, here is a better idea that was done some time ago. You'll get a more stable stock out of it and you wont break the bank.
http://perfectunion.com/vb/showthrea...+creek+adapter
Ruger15 I think came-up with the idea of a CAR-15 stock on a butler folder.
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Choate M4 Telescoping Pistol Grip for Mini 14

bwraven Yes. Sorry I don't have a photo of it anymore. I sold it to another forum member. Here it is I bought Choate M4 Telescoping Pistol Grip for Mini 14-dscn1056.jpg
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Is Choate's regular (non-folding) pistol grip stock for the Mini flimsy and flexible? I just want to get a good solid synthetic pistol grip stock.
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