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Old 11-30-2008, 08:40   #1
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Mini 14 target vs. M1a

I have a M1A scout that I am considering selling and setting a Mini 14 target with the hogue rubber stock. I have not been able to grow comfortable with the M1a, although it is and excellent rifle. I cannot put my finger on it, it just does not feel "right".

Yesterday, I was at the gun shop and handled the mini target with the hogue rubber stock for the first time. I really liked the way it handled and have read a lot about it's accuarcy, etc...

This would need to be a "do all" rifle. Has to be able to take small game, deer and other medium sized game...

Any thoughts to help me out?

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Old 11-30-2008, 09:27   #2
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Welcome to the forum John !

Your M1A Scout is a much better rifle than any Mini-14 will ever be.

I would suggest, if at all possible,to keep your M1A & figure out some other way to get a Mini-14, but that is just my opinion.

The Mini-14 is not considered a deer rifle, although some have used it to take deer.
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If you must, sell the M1A for cash and then shop for a Mini target. If you trade you'll be getting the short end. kwg
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Old 11-30-2008, 09:46   #4
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I would definitely want the scout over the Mini. To me the Target Mini's are way to heavy and very front heavy. I love my scout its probably my favorite of all my rifles.
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Originally Posted by J&J View Post
I have a M1A scout... I cannot put my finger on it, it just does not feel "right".
No reason to keep what doesn't feel right to you.

Sell or trade to get what you want.
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Old 11-30-2008, 11:04   #6
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I'll trade you. I have a target mini, Hogue stock, adjustable gas block and Gun Doc trigger job. I also attached a front swivel stud for bipod use. I have about 200 rounds through this rifle. Lets make a deal!
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let me know if/when you consider selling the M1A. it's actually a big man's rifle IMO.
a Mini target may suit you well if you know someone that has one of them ask for a session w/it when they next visit the range.
many big men swap the factory stock for a custom that has a longer 'reach'.
myself I installed a slightly thicker recoil pad on my M30.
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Old 11-30-2008, 19:57   #8
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I guess the first thing I need to do is get some more time behind my M1. I don't mind the recoil, etc... just cannot put my finger on it, but the mini "felt" right.

Still have to consider the 5.56 vs. the 7.62 issue... vs. deer size and hopefully not... but still have to consider... vs... man size targets...

Thanks for all you advice.

The dealer I bought my M1 says he will take it back at full price towards the mini, mags, scope and ammo to make it even.... and I can sell my M1A magsand ammo to my buddy who has a socom...

decisions, decisions..... my mind is made up and changes in an instant...

Need to make a trip back to the shop tomorrow...

John

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Originally Posted by J&J View Post

Still have to consider the 5.56 vs. the 7.62 issue... vs. deer size and hopefully not... but still have to consider... vs... man size targets...
Be sure to consider the 6.8mm SPC, which is now available in the Mini.
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That's too bad about your scout. However, if you don't like the rifle for whatever reason then it's about as useful as a key that doesn't fit any lock. Your rifle really does need to 'feel' right in your shoulder and if the M1a isn't cutting it then find something that is. In my opinion, get a regular Mini-14 and send it to Accuracy Systems Inc so you can have it customized to fit whatever need you have.
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I just bought a mini in 6.8 SPC, and it is a goodround for deer and other medium game. It would also be easier to hump around than the Target version. I shot mine today for the first time and shot 100 3" groups out of the box, with factory sights. Still I would love to have your Scout!
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Old 12-02-2008, 13:59   #12
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A 150gn 308 has more energy at 300 yards than a Mini-14 has at the muzzle. If I have to grab it and RUN, I'll probably grab the Mini. If I can take up a position and deliver sustained fire I'll grab the M1A every time.

The 223 blows all over the place in the wind and the 308 is very predictable. It will deliver solid kills at 500 yards and beyond and the Mini with 55gn bullets are pretty well out of steam by there. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to get hit by a BB if I can avoid it, much less a 55gn 223 at 500 yards. It's just an observation.

I own a Loaded M1A and two Mini-14s and shoot them all religiously. If you can, find a full size M1A and give it a try. I'll bet the balance is what is throwing you off, not the rifle itself! The Scout is really sexy and if you don't like it and do like the full size I'm sure somebody will be willing to trade. They might even throw in some ammo and 20 round clips.

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Old 12-02-2008, 15:07   #13
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if you wish to use the rifle for deer then definitely the X39 is the way to go, but even at that 200 yds is the max limit on shots. and 150 yds is wise. IMO the 5.56 is not suitable beyond 100 yds and less so in the bush. shot placement is critical with the small bore, you have a little more room with the X39 due to deeper, larger wound channel. I use my M30 for deer (doe tags but would take a shot at horns if it presented) and it's fine for medium range (to me 150 yds)
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Old 12-02-2008, 18:17   #14
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If you're considering a 6.8 Mini I believe hi capacity mags are non existent
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