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Old 11-04-2008, 03:41   #1
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Har bar vs. Accu strut

which of these is a better product? is the accu strut worth the extra 21 bucks? thanks
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I just purchased and installed a second hand accustrut. picked up here on this site.
looks like a great piece that fits well. it will definetely stay on that rifle and there may be another in my future.

I'm picky as all hell, so if it wasnt worth a shyte, I'd get rid of it.
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I don't regularly check the prices but I thought the Accu strut was the cheaper of the two. I believe there was a post where a guy bought one of each and tested them. The results were almost the same. His recommendation was to choose the one you like the best and get the best deal on i believe.
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$20 strut worked great

This set up cost a total of $25 and it REALLY helps. So if you are on a budget this is the way
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Accu-Strut. better design & better looking. i'll admit i'm totally biased. but they flat out work.
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I just installed my stainless Har-Bar yesterday and it looks fantastic on my rifle.

To each their own...I studied long and hard to decide which was better and came to the HB conclusion.

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Har-Bar or Accu-Strut

I believe both the Har-Bar and Accu-Strut work well from all the posts I have read. I have a Har-Bar and it works great. Another inexpensive modification is to have the the barrel and receiver Cryo-Treated. ( Cryo-Pro near springfield, MO ) It keeps the barrel from warping when it gets hot. It stops the stringing. The Har-Bar or Accu-Strut and the Cryo treating are a great combination. A muzzle brake, bedding and a trigger job will also help. Don't forget to add recoil buffers to the gas block and receiver ends of the operating rod. The gas port bushing in the gas block should be replaced with a bushing that has a hole size of .042 diameter. This will help reduce the slamming of the operating rod.

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Accu-Strut. better design & better looking.
What? You've gotta be kidding. I took some heat here on this forum for comparing the Accu-Strut appearance to a lag bolt hanging off the barrel by some hose clamps, and for posing the question, "Is the Accu-Strut worth the ugliness?". Lesson learned...beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I went with the Har-Bar, as I found the aesthetics more pleasing to me. I'm pretty sure both products work equally as well.
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Originally Posted by HighDesertWolf View Post
which of these is a better product? is the accu strut worth the extra 21 bucks? thanks
Comparing the Accu-Strut and Har-Bar:
Comparing the Accu-Strut and Har-Bar
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Har-Bar, hands down.
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Just got a Mini 14 tactical. Not really familiar with the bushings you are talking about. Can you guys help me understand and where to obtain the bushings.
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+1 for the Har-Bar

IMHO, it looks better
but the main reason I chose it is, I believe the larger aluminum clamp blocks will likely do a better job of sucking heat from the barrel.
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Originally Posted by grahng View Post
Just got a Mini 14 tactical. Not really familiar with the bushings you are talking about. Can you guys help me understand and where to obtain the bushings.
Thanks
I'm assuming you're talking about recoil buffers?

Your best bet is to buy the Wilson Shok-Buffs. They're actually designed for 1911s, but they work wonders in a Mini. They come in a six-pack, and they're dirt cheap from MidwayUSA. I've got one installed on the gas block and one on the op rod guide, no function problems whatsoever.

EDIT: I just re-read your post, and this thread, and realized you may have been talking about Gas Port Bushings. If you were, you can get reduced-size bushings from Walkenbear, a member here. If you'll send him a Private Message he can get you all set up.
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In reference to fitting a tapered barrel, how do these two compare with "Mo-Rod"?
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Originally Posted by HighDesertWolf View Post
which of these is a better product? is the accu strut worth the extra 21 bucks? thanks
It is to Accu-strut.
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Originally Posted by Handload View Post
In reference to fitting a tapered barrel, how do these two compare with "Mo-Rod"?
The Accu-strut utilizes a proprietary flex-clamp design that allows accomodation to the tapered portion of the newer mini barrels. Basically the rear clamp gets within .75" of the gas block without further modification.

As far as the price difference of $21, I am not sure where that comes from. The current LT model retails for 94.95, which is only 6.95 more than the Mo-rod, and 65.05 less than the Har-bar.
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the accustrut is by far the best looking of the two. i think they both do the same job equally well. as for cryo-treating a barrel. i think that i bought the accustrut to stop shot stringing. it does stop shot stringing. how is your barrel gonna warp when you have a rigid strut clamped to it. it isnt. i dont believe cryo-treating does what it says it does. i think its bs.
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The Accu-strut is a kludge. If you are trying to turn your Mini-14 into a target rifle, do it right by talking to a gunsmith about installing a free-floated, medium or heavy target barrel with target crown.

By the way, I don't advocate performing this conversion anymore than I would advocate installing a supercharger on a Ford Mustang in an attempt to make it perform like a Jaguar XKR. If you want a competition target rifle, you should buy one or have one custom made to fit your dimensions. Your re-barreled Mini will not suddenly be transformed into a target rifle.
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i installed my accustrut to stop shot stringing and make it a little more accurate. it did both. my mini shot 2-3'' groups before and now it will shoot moa with my handloads. not trying to turn it into a ''target'' rifle. just want it as accurate as it can be, and it is. you dont need another barrel, just tweak your mini and the accuracy is out there.
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Accu-strut is the original...everyone else is just a knock-off.

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x2 on originality. Some say that imitation is the ultimate form of flatery, I say it is the ultimate form of a lack of creativity.

The Accu-Strut also has an internal dampening system.
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Originally Posted by cqbinkalifornia View Post
x2 on originality. ... The Accu-Strut also has an internal dampening system.
I bought an LT a couple months ago. It doesn't have the dampening system, but it worked very well. Fit & finish was nice, complements the rest of the mini.

Plus I was able to help out an endangered species, a CA entrepreneur.
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Originally Posted by kenl View Post
Plus I was able to help out an endangered species, a CA entrepreneur.
Damn straight!
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Accu-strut vs H-bar

Originally Posted by HighDesertWolf View Post
which of these is a better product? is the accu strut worth the extra 21 bucks? thanks
I bought the Accu-strut because the stainless version really dressed up the rifle. Really does look like a Mini-14 now!!! That with shock buffers, muzzle break and trigger job and handloads got me my best group of (5) 100yards/ 3/4 inch. Yes it does work along with the other modifications ! It's a process Gentlemen. Either or will work and reduce group sizes. It's what you want. Personally, anything you do to change the resonance of the barrel will affect the grouping sometimes more sometimes less. Heck, there's guys on this site that went with the "limb saver" practically no $$$ investment and claim 1-1.5 inch groups. My rifle to me is an extension of my personality. I want it to look good. Frankly, I am talented enough to have made the same thing with 50.00$$$ of parts a lathe and some additional effort. But I was in a hurry, could afford it and lazy so I went the easy way. Each to his own. Life doesn't always provide time for everything and I got to spend more on the range as a result of that choice and had plenty of smiles from the results....D

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I am getting the Accu-Strut, for my mini 30
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