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Old 02-23-2007, 16:12   #1
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Suppressor (Silencer) on Mini 14?

I have a standard Mini 14 Ranch. I am getting a screw-on suppressor. My dealer has told me that the Mini's barrel is too thin to allow threading and the use of a suppressor. His reason is that you would not have a large enough shoulder for the can to press against. Any truth to this? have any of you threaded Mini 14 barrels to use a suppressor?

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I would recommend that you discuss this with the mfg of the supressor that you plan to use. They should have the necessary experience with "their product" to make knowledgeable recommendations. If they make the recommendation in writing you will be in an even better position should you have problems with that application.

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Excellent suggestion. Thanks. It happens that I have already exchanged several e-mails with the head of Tactical Innovations. I will raise this issue with him.

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Hi Drakejake I have a threaded over the barrel suppressor on mine and it works fine.
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Killer, do you get good noise reduction with your suppressed Mini 14 firing full power ammo, or do you restrict yourself to subsonic?

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Thread it to 1/2 x 28 and shoot subsonic ammo.
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Originally Posted by Drakejake View Post
Killer, do you get good noise reduction with your suppressed Mini 14 firing full power ammo, or do you restrict yourself to subsonic?

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I use standard ammo, sub-sonics are not available here. I looked into reloading some but basically found it to be a waste of time. M855 or M193 sounds like a .22lr. When I go hunting I don't need to use any hearing protection. Well worthwhile I would really recommend it and almost everyone I have been shooting with wants one now. As an added bonus it seemed to tighten my groups a bit too.
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Send the group on this thread the jpeg I sent you today.

My TROS unit works fine , 1/2-28 using subsonic ammo is a quiet beast.

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Tried to post it, couldn't do it. "Invalid file."

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Originally Posted by Killer@nz View Post
I use standard ammo, sub-sonics are not available here. I looked into reloading some but basically found it to be a waste of time. M855 or M193 sounds like a .22lr. When I go hunting I don't need to use any hearing protection. Well worthwhile I would really recommend it and almost everyone I have been shooting with wants one now. As an added bonus it seemed to tighten my groups a bit too.
How easy is it to get a suppressor in New Zealand anyway? It's quite hard to get one in the U.S.A., "land of the free".
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Originally Posted by FatKatMatt View Post
How easy is it to get a suppressor in New Zealand anyway? It's quite hard to get one in the U.S.A., "land of the free".
There are none of the same restrictions that you have. I just found a guy that does it with a good reputation and sent it off, paid the man and he sent it back.
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Originally Posted by FALCON 1 View Post
Send the group on this thread the jpeg I sent you today.

My TROS unit works fine , 1/2-28 using subsonic ammo is a quiet beast.

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Is this store brought or hand-loaded ammo? Any info you have would be appreciated .
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Is someone confusing .223 with .22 LR? Sub Sonic .223 I have never heard of and in my opinion it would likely be a usless round???

Educate & or enlighten me please.
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suppressor mount

You always have the option of getting one of the suppressors that mount to an A2 flash hider. Take an standard A2, bore it out and tap it the 9/16 thread that is on the ruger. I also made a small jam nut to secure the A2 on it. My suppressor mounts on the A2 hider.

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Subsonic rounds whether in .22 cal or .223 are lethal.

Most subsonic rounds are about 200-300 fps slower than conventional rounds.

The Israeli IDF uses to this date suppressed Ruger 10/22 with subsonic rounds to deal with rioters in the occupied areas. From rooftops they do knee shots to disable or if needed head shots to kill. There is no sound signature from their vantage point.

.223 Subsonic rounds will do the same. I use in my Mini 14 with TROS can the
TTI Armory 55gr FMJ Moly (TTI Armory .com ) rounds are quiet as a .22 cal and accurate.

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Originally Posted by Killer@nz View Post
There are none of the same restrictions that you have. I just found a guy that does it with a good reputation and sent it off, paid the man and he sent it back.
I was reading about the state of gun control in New Zealand and it really doesn't look that bad at all; you only have to register full auto's, "assault weapons", and other such goodies. How hard is it to get a gun license there?
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Originally Posted by FatKatMatt View Post
I was reading about the state of gun control in New Zealand and it really doesn't look that bad at all; you only have to register full auto's, "assault weapons", and other such goodies. How hard is it to get a gun license there?
It's pretty good the cops give you an interview, make you do a short course and take a test. They ask for two referee's who they interview (one family, and one friend). Then they make sure you can safely store your firearms (safe, strongroom, etc). Then every ten years you have to re-new your licence. It's pretty good really, you get really hammered if you mess up, but it's not bad.
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Interesting information... Thanks
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Don't know if this should be a new post/thread or not.
N.Z. Firearms regs.
The actual Licence is Credit Card with Photo , Listing of endorsements, personal details etc.
A Cat = Basic licence. Covers Rifles, Shotguns & some Cannon. Produce licence & money. No other action required.
B Cat = Pistols for shooting. Use retricted to aproved ranges. Must be Pistol Club member.
C Cat = Collectors. Basically whatever you want, weather operational or not, but not allowed to shoot it. All Cartridge pistols, Full auto firearms, rocket launchers, Morters etc.
E Cat = Military Style Semi Auto Rifle. Any semi-auto centerfire rifle fitted with One of the following : Folding or telescopic butt : Flash Hider : free standing Pistol Grip : Bayonet lug : Magazine of greater than 7 rounds.
To purchase B, C, or E cat need a Police Permit & the firearm is registerecd to your name on the Police Computor. If you have the correct endorsement the any Police Station will issue the Permit to Purchase on request.
Amount of vetting & Security requirements are greater B,C & E cats but not really onerous.
I renewed my Licence in 2003. Cost me $200 total for basic A plus B, C & E. Took me say 5 minutes to fill in the form & they posted me a new Licence a few weeks later.
No restrictions on numbers held, provided your Security meets the regulations.
No worries about silencers, no Licence or paperwar involved. Am considering fitting one as this will be easier than than the Flash Hiders usually recomended to improve Mini accuracy. No paperwar or Registering to E cat involved.
Has any one who has fitted a Silencer noticed an increase in accuracy comparable with slipping on a Flash Eliminator?
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Originally Posted by FALCON 1 View Post
Subsonic rounds whether in .22 cal or .223 are lethal.

Most subsonic rounds are about 200-300 fps slower than conventional rounds.

The Israeli IDF uses to this date suppressed Ruger 10/22 with subsonic rounds to deal with rioters in the occupied areas. From rooftops they do knee shots to disable or if needed head shots to kill. There is no sound signature from their vantage point.

.223 Subsonic rounds will do the same. I use in my Mini 14 with TROS can the
TTI Armory 55gr FMJ Moly (TTI Armory .com ) rounds are quiet as a .22 cal and accurate.

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Falcon 1 thank you for the info. I didn't realise there were commercially available subsonic .223. Now to see if I can get some into the country so I can try it. Although it says not for semi autos I think with the can I have I it will achieve enough back pressure to cycle the action. With any luck .
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Killer, to raise the pressure it may be necessary to make a new Gas Port Bushing with a larger hole. This will divert more gas to the slide. In a previous occupation I supplied Semi & Full auto blank firing firearms to Film & TV. To get them working properly on blanks opening up any gas ports was a routine mod.
The other way to easily raise the pressure is to use a heaver projectile, possibly with a slower powder. You may need to get into the addictive world of handloading.
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Hey Killer-do you do any handloding of 223?If so I have a sub sonic load that I have used in the past with good results-however it will not cycle the action on a mini because of the reduced pressures.let me know if youre interested.
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Originally Posted by Secret Squirrel View Post
Killer, to raise the pressure it may be necessary to make a new Gas Port Bushing with a larger hole. This will divert more gas to the slide. In a previous occupation I supplied Semi & Full auto blank firing firearms to Film & TV. To get them working properly on blanks opening up any gas ports was a routine mod.
The other way to easily raise the pressure is to use a heaver projectile, possibly with a slower powder. You may need to get into the addictive world of handloading.
OK thanks I have a workshop and free time occasionally so I should be able to whip one up. I have a friend who hand-loads .223 so I might try and get some instruction. How long were you in film for?

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Hey Killer-do you do any handloding of 223?If so I have a sub sonic load that I have used in the past with good results-however it will not cycle the action on a mini because of the reduced pressures.let me know if youre interested.
Yes please. As above I will see if my mate will get me started as he has all the dies, presses, and powders. Thank you.
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Hey killer -check your E-mail.As I won't post reloading data on the board.Liability issues and all that stuff....
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Originally Posted by magnomark View Post
Hey killer -check your E-mail.As I won't post reloading data on the board.Liability issues and all that stuff....
Thanks Magnomark!
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