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Old 03-30-2004, 09:37   #1
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I have a NIB Ruger Mini-14 GB LEO for sale. It is a Stainless/Wood model and comes with Ruger Factory Mags-one 20 rounder and one 30 rounder-both Mags are NIB also. This was an LEO purchase that fell through. The Rifle is beautiful, with the trademark Ruger Flash Hider, the heavy-duty Gov't./LEO Receiver and combination front sight/bayonet lug. This rifle/mag combo will be legal for civilian ownership after 9-13-04. $625 plus $25 for shipping and insurance. Includes Manual, Lock, (Save the Children) Sling, and Ruger Box.
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I'm interested. Can you send me some pics at airikem@yahoo.com
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Old 03-31-2004, 01:27   #3
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I can't right now. I am just learning how to be photo-savvy and all that comes out is blurry. But I can assure you that this package is all new, never fired, and still in the box. I removed it only to check the ser. no. for entry into my aquisitions log. It is still in the blue plastic factory bag, and the mags are in the factory red/white boxes. It was never purchased, the leo who wanted it changed his mind and got an M1A Scout instead. I am selling this for exactly what I paid for it, no profit to be made. These rifles will be extremely hard to come by in the coming months, and Ruger will probably stop production if and when the AWBan sunsets. They have already stopped production of the Folding-Stock LEO GB Model.
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does it come with a foldable stock?
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Old 04-05-2004, 09:57   #5
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No-But I will gladly throw in a Butler Creek NIB Stainless Folder for $100 extra!!!
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Old 04-05-2004, 13:08   #6
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im interested.

but why will Ruger quit making them when the sunset hits?
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I'd be a little hesitant owning something that said "for leo only". If/when a new ban is put into place it could get interesting to own. Might be a little tense trying to explain to a police officer, park ranger, etc, why you have a "leo" firearm.

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I'm still not totally convinced that the AWB as we know it today will sunset this fall. I would not put it past Congress to come up with something that either extends the AWB or puts it in a different form but keeps the various prohibitions intact.

You can buy hi-cap mags for the Mini right now but you just have to be careful to not have too many "evil" items installed.

Can the President issue an Executive Order that would cause a law to remain in effect past a sepcific date as defined in the original bill?? GWB could get cornered by a group of liberals and have to do some horse-trading to get something he wants at the expense of our rights or at the very least, the extending of AWB.
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Sorry for adding to the tangent here, but as I understand it, the president has veto authority, but cannot extend a law once it is set to expire. I don't think that's in his purview, as I understand things. Speaking of congress - does anyone know when the last possible "in session" day is for them this year that they could extend the ban?

I'm also interested in the GB mini, and would like to be added to the list of potential buyers in case something falls through with one of the deals.

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I'd like to be included in that list also. When you can please post pics.

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Actually, this rifle says "For Law Enforcement/Government Use or Export Only 9-14-94" So you should have no problems owning this rifle when the CURRENT ban expires. But I agree-another ban will someday take its place. The key is to buy as much stuff as possible after 9-14-04, that way, when the next ban comes around, you can grandfather everything. If Ruger wanted to, they could sell their rifles right now with a flash hider and no bayonet lug. You could actually make a LEO GB legal for civilian use right now by milling off the Bayonet Lug-no matter what the receiver says about "LEO use only." I have a copy of a letter from the BATF in which they say the ownership of an LEO-marked AR-15 receiver does not in itself constitute illegality-only if it is made into an "assault weapon" will it be illegal for a civilian to posess. But you could put post-ban parts on the LEO-marked receiver and it would be perfectly legal to own.
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Well, the batf letter you have contradicts all of the law enforcement people I know at local and state levels. They say "For Law Enforcement/Government Use or Export Only 9-14-94" means just that, only for LEO's and goverment. If they catch you with one mark "LEO" and you aren't a "LEO" the rifle becomes part of their collection.

I guess you'd have to have a good lawyer to get it back.

I'd be intereseted to see the letter from the BATF, can you post it here?

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You can find the letter at AR-15.com-in the legal section. I believe it may also be in the Bushmaster Forum.

So are you saying that all the WW II surplus .45's, M-3 Grease Guns, M-1 Carbines, etc. stamped "Property of US Gov't." could be confiscated also??


The reason Ruger will stop making the GB is that Ruger is a sell-out company, and always has been. Once the ban sunsets, there will be no reson to make LEO and civilian models. so they will stop LEO production altogether. Remember-they have already stopped production of 30-round mags and folding-stock GB rifles.
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AZSherman...answer to your question is "no!" Whole different ballgame, and you firerams are protected by grandfather clauses regardless. Your ass is covered. But, if the ban is EXTENDED, your LEO rifle will remain LEO...might as well stick her in your personal gun closet.

I doubt that the AWB ban will sunset. A provision to extened the ban has already been run through congress a few weeks ago...majority voted to extend it...dont recall exact count. I do remember that a large number of Republicans voted for the extension, and there were 5 Democrats that voted against it! Luckily, the provision was attached to a bill which was shot down.

Just because your state representatives are Republican, doesn't mean that they have your interests in mind. You need to speak your mind and let your representatives know what you want!!!

Of course, the President has the power to veto the bill if it were to pass...but I would't hold your breath.

...not trying to bust anyone's bubble, but I would rather expect thew worst, rather than be completely disappointed. Trust me, I already have a slot in line with local gunsmith to attach/solder an "evil" falsh hider on my FAL, and have a FAL para folder kit ready for build if the ban lifts...but beyond that. I'm hopng....but just not counting on it.
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I agree, old Bill was in bed with the devil. But about the 30 round mags. I read somewhere that Ruger stopped making them because they found out that they would not work in there new syn stock mini's. For some reason, the mags would jam at about the 22nd or 23rd round. Has anyone else herd about this?
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Originally posted by Camera man@Apr 7 2004, 08:09 AM
I agree, old Bill was in bed with the devil. But about the 30 round mags. I read somewhere that Ruger stopped making them because they found out that they would not work in there new syn stock mini's. For some reason, the mags would jam at about the 22nd or 23rd round.* Has anyone else herd about this?
Yep, it was in the armorers report, cajun had a link to it in the xgi sticky in the gallary. It said that Ruger said they quit making the 30 rounders because of stock fit problems with synthetic stocks and the 20 or 21 round would jam,ftf,etc.

On Ruger not making GB anymore after the ban, well, that wouldn't make since. Ruger also said in that session that the mini14 GB makes up most of the LEO sales. They'll probably just sell them to LEO's and the Govt like they do today.

Oh, and the reason the link was in the XGI sticky was because ruger said that they have alot of XGI recievers in storage and that they haven't forgotten about the project. If the AWB dies they said things may fall into place and start rolling so stay tuned. They also said the XGI will take M14 mags.

Bill Ruger's dead. It's hard to say what Ruger the company will do after the ban because the past isn't a strong indication since the leadership has changed.

It'll be interesting what Ruger does after the sunset. XGI, Ruger 20 round mags, new GB's.

Remember Old Man Ruger is dead. Do you remember Colt in the late 1800's? Colt the company wouldn't make a centerfire revolver while Old man Colt was leading the company. He wouldn't allow it saying that people would always want to load their own charges/loads. Well, Mr Colt died and new leadership then led Colt to make the Colt SAA and Peacemaker centerfire revolvers. Could Ruger do the same with Mr Ruger's death and the XGI?

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GEEZ!!! "IF" the ban sunsets...not "WHEN!" There are many people in congress lobbying to extend the AWB ban! They have been very close to passing it already...and there are many Republicans backing it. Odds in our favor do not look good. I would LOVE to be proved wrong!!!!!

Instead of making assumptions, use your right as an American citizen to lobby against provisions to extend or reinforce the ban.

Again, it isn't a matter of "WHEN" the ban sunsets, it is a matter of "IF."
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It's my understanding that since the AWB has already come to the floor and was voted down (the ammendments passed to be on the bill, but the bill died in the Senate) so the AWB ammendment cannot be added to any bill in the senate for the remainder of the session. That's the way I understand it anyway.

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Right...but it can still be slipped in during another session. September is still 6 months away.
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What I meant by 'session' was this year's regular session (can't remember the end date off hand, hmmmm ). If they have a special session after that, yea, they'll probably try to slip it in. I don't know if it's legal or not, but that never stopped the law makers from breaking the law before.....

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Congress has a session every two years. Current session ends next Saturday since it is an election year...and will start back up again in January.

Unless there is something that I'm missing...your right on scruffy!!!
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Well, now that some good news. I hope!

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As per design the ban WILL sunset, and whether or not a rider gets attached to another bill is the only hope the Dems have of extending it. Lott already said that IF the AWb comes to his House floor in any way, shape, or form, that it will never leave his floor. Bush does not want it to even come to his desk, although he said he would sign it if it made it there.

feinswine even said that there went her only hope (during the commerce bill debacle) of renewing the AWB, or making it PERMANENT!!
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Hello all. Does anyone know about having a 9 14 94 GB Mini 14 stamped Law Enforcement rifle and or (LEO) magazines in Upstate N.Y.? I understand the Federal AWB ban is done, but I do believe N.Y. state itself has the AWB still, Iam 100% sure NY law states any magazine or rifle manufactured after 9-13-94 is illegal. Thanks!

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Hello all. Does anyone know about having a 9 14 94 GB Mini 14 stamped Law Enforcement rifle and or (LEO) magazines in Upstate N.Y.? I understand the Federal AWB ban is done, but I do believe N.Y. state itself has the AWB still, Iam 100% sure NY law states any magazine or rifle manufactured after 9-13-94 is illegal. Thanks!
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