I was talking to a gunsimth the other day, you know, just sittin' around chewin' the fat. We got to talkin' about putting a trigger in my 10/22. He told me I was wasting my time. When I asked him why, he said they aren't accurate to begin with. I told him that I thought mine was pretty accurate, so he wanted to know my definition of pretty accurate. I told him I was getting 1" groups at 75 yards and showed him a target.
Heres where the question is. He told me that he would not touch a screw on it, and that if I did I wouldn't be able to get it shooting like that again. Has he lost his marbles or is this better than to be expected accuracy out of a 10/22? I would really like to put a trigger in it. By the way, It's a sporter with a 22" barrel and I'm shooting Winchester bulk 555.
My first question is; are you sure it is a full 75 yards?
My second question is; Do you have witnesses for whom you have never purchased beer?
My third question is; Are you counting all the shots? Fliers count too!
You LGS owner is right. Usually a 10/22 will not group better than 1 1/2" @ 25 yards and usually Winchester bulk will not group better than 1"-2"@ 25 yards from a better gun than the 10/22.
The combined fudge factor usually results in 2-3 inch groups @25 on a good day.
I'll bet you live in California! It seems all the accurate 10/22 rifles were sent to California.
KYnabob is "kinda" correct. If you are grouping like that with a factory 10-22, that is amazing. However, fixing the trigger will not afffect accuracy achieved.
A drop in adjustable sear is, arguably, the best thing to do right off. You can adjust all the pretravel away. If you purchase an adjustable sear and hammer kit, it is possible to get around 3-4#s and no creep. Maybe less. i put in the adjustable sear and I did the rest. 2#s, no creep.
The 10-22 is built to be a can puncher. Fairly reliable and cheap. I believe thats what makes it a challenge.
Rechamber and crown the factory barrel, a little barrel bedding, and the above siggested trigger work and that may get you 1" @ 75 yards. If you are getting that accuaracy now, I wouldn't touch it either.
It's your's, do with it as YOU want. IMO, if you're getting that performance from a bone stock 10/22 with bulk fodder ammo, be thankful. I don't see simply trigger improvement changing it enough to make a difference on that.
It's your's, do with it as YOU want. IMO, if you're getting that performance from a bone stock 10/22 with bulk fodder ammo, be thankful. I don't see simply trigger improvement changing it enough to make a difference on that.
Oh believe me, I'm extremely happy with it now as far as the way it shoots. I just wanted to work the trigger over to make it more pleasureable to shoot groups with. On the other hand, if it's gonna screw the accuracy up when I take it apart, I don't want to.
It will not change the accuracy to take it apart and do a trigger job, there are many stkies over on rimfire central that will tell you about mods. that you can do to make that rifle smoother and have a better trigger.
It's been a little while since posting this and I couldn't remember exactly what distance we were talking about, but this should still be good enough proof for the ones that thought I was crazy. It's still twice the distance than I saw some of y'all talkin' about. Tell me what you think.
Never doubted it for a minute. I have the same 22" SS Sporter model and it is quite accurate as well. I have shot 1/2" groups at 50 yards but mine has had a trigger replacement and barrel bedding among other things.
Nice shooting. I have a 10/22 thats over 20yrs old and a newer one in a tapco stock and they both shoot very well when scoped. I can actually get good groups without a scope. Dont listen to people tell you something isnt accurate when you know it is. I guess its just hard for some folks to believe a ruger can be accurate. Anyway, good shooting.
Looks like you have a good one. I know that there are very nice 10-22s and there are some that need help. I have had both. My first one got stole in a burglary. It was a nice shooter. The one the insurance replaced it with shot a pattern that was 12x18 at 25yds. I didnt have a lot of money then so I took a look at it myself. I figured out all the problems and went through them one by one. I fired groups after each fix. I free floated the barrel, glass bed the action and worked on the action to smooth it out. The trigger pull was over 12 Lbs and the sear surfaces looked like it had slag on it. After I smoothed it out and polished everything the I could, It was a tack driver. I decided I was finished fixin it when I found ten 20 ga hulls laying around, I set them up and walked 25 paces, turned and fired. I emptied a magazine standing with a sling fro support, and snet all hulls flying into the desert. I said now I am ready for some rabbits. SO if you are not happy with the trigger, get an aftermarket one or put a stone to it. I was glad I did. Brownells and midway have jigs for stoneing, check them out.
I have 4 10/22's here.
2 stock skinny, wood stocked, 1 skinny SS poly stocked and a factory bull barreled with a laminated stock. All 4 are stock.
The 2 thin barreled guns will all do 1" @ 50 yards with just about any quality bulk ammo from a sand bag rest any day.
The bull barreled gun will do .75" @ 50 with bulk and 1/2" with match ammo.
All 4 are in stock trim. Now I did have a carbon fiber barreled 10/22 that would .3" groups @ 50yds with match ammo.
Funny. I just put a Volquartsen Target Hammer & Release kit # VC10HB $45 from Midway in my 10/22 Sunday. I love it. Trigger pull went from about 8lbs to 2.5. Look it up on Midway and read the reviews. I also replaced the take down slotted screw with an allen headed one and installed a new bolt buffer. The bolt buffer really softened up the way the operation feels. Next is the Tech Sights. I want it to be like shooting my Mini, for practicing with 22's instead of 223's.
Lead Slanger, I found this site to be helpful, as well as rimfirecentral.com & rugerforum.com. <Your New ruger 10/22> Anytime you remove your barreled action from the stock and reinstall, you have a risk of changing pressure on something. We all do it for cleaning purposes. I wouldn't worry about it. Try to torque your take down screw the same each time.
I was instructing at an Appleseed event last weekend. We had 6 Ruger 10/22's on the line among other brands. After Saturday's instruction 4 were shooting 1 inch groups at 25 meters with no problem. Shooters were prone with loop slings. More often than not it's the shooter and not the rifle!! These were not tricked out Rugers either!! All did have scopes though.
If you want to know what your rifle can do, shoot off a bench. If you want to know what YOU can do, shoot from positions!!!