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Old 01-04-2009, 14:54   #1
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Exclamation Making a buffer. -how to-

While buying an aftermarket buffer for your ruger 10/22 is not an expensive thing to do, you can easily make your own. I initially did it my self when i was in need of a new one, and didn't have time to order one. I've only been using it shortly, so i dont know how well it will hold up over time, but its quite cheap, so if it needs replaced after a while, no big deal!

What i did was take a short length of aquarium tubing (can be bought at wal-mart, its under a buck for a few feet.) Or oxygen tubing works just as well. Cut a short piece and lay it next to your stock buffer, then cut it to the exact same length. Slide it into your gun, and your done!
Some folks like to slide a piece of wire into the tubing, but i've never found the need to do so. Reduces the noise level of your gun by a lot!

Hope this helps someone out!


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Old 01-28-2009, 06:37   #2
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hea good trick there cowboy, but i sitll had a problem with it stove-piping alittle,so, i pulled it back out and put in a piece of 1/8" welding wire and now it works perfect.
i have put almost 1k rounds through it, so i took it apart the other day to look and the
home-made buffer, yup it was dirty, but it still works fine, i'll check after another 1k rds and see how it looks ..

tanx for the tip

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Old 01-28-2009, 07:19   #3
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Originally Posted by swampdog58 View Post
mornin
hea good trick there cowboy, but i sitll had a problem with it stove-piping alittle,so, i pulled it back out and put in a piece of 1/8" welding wire and now it works perfect.
i have put almost 1k rounds through it, so i took it apart the other day to look and the
home-made buffer, yup it was dirty, but it still works fine, i'll check after another 1k rds and see how it looks ..

tanx for the tip

swampdog

Good stuff man! Thanks for the feedback. Using Federal champion 510 ($1.47 a box at walmart) i have no stove pipes what so ever (maybe like one a brick) i've ran about 2k rounds through my gun since the buffer, and it does get dirty, but still works great! So i'm happy with it.

Glad it helped you out!

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You should add the OD of the tubing you used. It's 1/4" if I'm not mistaken.
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Old 01-29-2009, 05:39   #5
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glad ya caught that evil, i guess i just assumed everyone knew it was 1/4"....


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Old 01-29-2009, 07:07   #6
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Same here, it says 1/4th" on the packages... so i kinda took it for granted.
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Ironcowboy ...
I have NOTHING against ingenuity, but what people don't realize is that they may be creating a serious and potentially life threatening situation when creating there "home made" buffers.
The buffer rod takes all the blunt force from the bolt during cycling.
Where the problem comes into place, is that the material you use for a buffer rod cannot take the constant abuse or "pounding" from the bolt.
With home made buffers, people mostly use PVC (poly vinyl chloride) hose or tubing with a metal insert.
A key ingredient in flexible (soft) PVC is plasticizer. The plasticizer is used to give flexabilty and durability to the material during the extrusion process.
NOW...here is where the problem lies.
With your bolt constantly hitting the PVC tub or hose, over time, it actually extracts or "squeezes" out the plasticizer from the material.
When the plasticizer is extracted, your buffer becomes brittle and unstable.
This is where the ticking time bomb occurs.

Food for thought my friend...
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Neonbee. Could you please explain why this would be a "ticking time bomb"? I've used a stiff rubber, much like the rubber used for a vacuum belt for quite some time and haven't had a bit of trouble. Please enlighten us.
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Old 01-29-2009, 20:53   #9
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ThePathOfNeo,
What Ironcowboy is using is PVC tubing. What your using (i assume) is a vulcanized rubber tube.
These are 2 whole different animals.
What my whole point is, is that different materials used in "home made" buffers have different physical properties to there make up.
Some may have good impact properties but poor tear resistance, others may have have good flexibility but poor abrasion resistance.
Some, good oil and solvent resistance but very poor load bearing properties.
One may be too hard while the other may be too soft and this throws off your cycling and causes stove pipes.

People may find a .10 cent piece of PVC tubing and a pin from the hardware store works well for awhile, but the gamble comes when you stretch it's physical properties to the limit and eventually experience a catastrophic breakdown, resulting in severe receiver/bolt damage or possible bodily harm.
THIS.. is the ticking time bomb.
That's when you have to ask yourself......was it worth it?
Not trying to flame ANYONE, just looking out for a brother.
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I'm going to have to agree with Neonbee here. I will say that I am a believer in buffers, just not the home made variety in this case.

A decent buffer is about the same price as a combo meal at any fast food resturant. A small price to pay versus a near free one that stands a real good chance of failing and damaging your rifle. If you must do this, I suggest ordering a round piece of solid urethane from McMaster-Carr or such and cutting it yourself. Most of the aftermarket buffers are made from this material. Even then, unless you know the correct durometer , you are taking a risk.

As Neonbee said, nothing against ingenuity. I think it's great when people post their ideas and share with others. Sometimes people think the idea is a great one and sometime they think not so great. To me, this one falls in the not so great catagory because the risk to money saved ratio is much too lopsided.

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Well, feel free to delete my post then, i sure dont want to cause anyone harm. I dont see how it will be an issue at all, and at worst it might damage the gun a little (i'm willing to risk it) i sure dont think its going to "explode" from a .22 round.
I appreciate everyone's input and looking out for our well being, thanks guys! I'll let you know at the 10,000 rd mark what the buffer is like. At 2k its like new... And if i need to change it in a few thousand, i'm out a few cents.

~Samuel

PS. This has nothing to do with saving a few bucks, but now that you got me interested in it, i'll "ride the bull to the gate"!

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I have yet to see anyone post that "a serious and potentially life threatening situation" resulted from the use of a homemade 10/22 buffer.
As much as some shoot, I would think we would have heard of this by now. Any direct proof ?
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Come on Wetidlerjr....
Were all big boys here! I'm not splitting hairs with anyone.
If you feel you have to keep on doin' what your doin'....then so be it.
Maybe we'll be posting about it here one day....
Have fun and safe shooting!
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i wonder if a piece of hot glue stick would work as a buffer??
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Originally Posted by HighDesertWolf View Post
i wonder if a piece of hot glue stick would work as a buffer??
Never thought of that, but i should think it would work great, so long as it did not get to warm.
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mornin to all
well i've tryed the homemade buffer and it worked for about 1500rds and then it split the tubing so i found some thicker wall tubing and it has worked
good, but, i suspect it too will split some day it has over 3K on the 2nd one now ....anyway i ordered me some TUFFER BUFFERS from neon and will be getting them anyday now. i've seem them and they r much tougher and i think will last a long time the way i shoot

best of luck

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I use TUFFER BUFFER's, I've got over 15k on one now without any indication of wear on it at all, in fact it still looks new. It's your rifle use what you want, me I'll stick with a TUFFER BUFFER. I will not brag up something that doesn't work these do.

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