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Old 11-16-2008, 09:02   #1
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10/22 on future ban ? opinion .

I was just wondering if You all think that the 10/22 being semi-auto will be on any Future Ban next year , my opinion is that it might IF an WHEN next year they try to push through one , I have and old one an she's been A good one, but right now with so many other things to buy I hate to spend money on it , but I would like to buy another one before any New BAN . I am just afraid they may be A shortage on firearms from people Panic buying , seams that there sealing faster than they can be made , I know things will slow down , when people think that they have bought enough or run low of money , whats yall's opinion on the 10/22 ? WILL IT BE ON THE BAN ?


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It's really hard to say for sure. The last swing at a Louisiana ban included them and all other semiautomatics. I'd say it's more likely that a federal ban would cover all semiautomatic rifles and shotguns, pump shotguns with greater than 3rd capacity, pistol and rifle magazines (rimfire and centerfire) capable of holding more than 8-10rds, and all shotgun magazine extension tubes. If they are going to risk a public backlash from a renewed AWB then they will swing for a homerun and pass their entire wishlist in one bitter pill instead of drawing it out over 4 painful years.

Grab an AR15 and 2000rds just in case and worry about the 10/22s later. Just don't panic and pay too much.

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I dont know what the laws are in other states, but here rifles do not need to be registered. So personally, if there is a possibility for a ban, then keep it locked up and tell no one you have it.
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Originally Posted by sholling View Post

Grab an AR15 and 2000rds just in case and worry about the 10/22s later. Just don't panic and pay too much.
just a quick side note, but you should have seen this gun shop i went to this morning. The register line ran the length of the store AND people were buying as many boxes of rounds that would fit in the shoping basket. I would love to tell people NOT TO PANIC, but that wouldnt be a good idea to say to someone buying a gun and ammo.

Just random side not, dont want to hijack this thread.
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I think they'll definitely ban the high cap magazines again, and probably add the rule for "evil features" on a firearm, like pistol grips, detachable magazines, flash surpressors, etc... the only concern with a 10/22, in my opinion, is the high cap magazines. That being said, I am going to order a nice threaded barrel and some high caps for mine before February-March.
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Some friends of yours went to A gunshow and said that there was just standing room only ., I am more worried about A federal Future BAN , theres no chance of any kind of ban passing here in Louisiana , they tryed this year and it went no ware , they hardly got any votes , Baton Rouge stopped right off , they didn't have A dogs chance in hell of passing , even most Democrates are Pro-Gun , for the Record , one democrate pollitican said that in his rural district that Law Abideing citizens need Semi-Auto rifles to match the fire power of crimmals and Gangs , because it take time for the police to get there, citizens have A right to defend them self's from crimmals.
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Originally Posted by jhs1970426 View Post
I dont know what the laws are in other states, but here rifles do not need to be registered. So personally, if there is a possibility for a ban, then keep it locked up and tell no one you have it.
I have to agree... in my undisclosed state we are not allowed to own a single thing that makes a rifle scary, but rifles do not have to be registered. just keep it hidden away in your closet, do not engage in illegal activities, and if you ever need it, it will be there.
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Originally Posted by jhs1970426 View Post
I dont know what the laws are in other states, but here rifles do not need to be registered. So personally, if there is a possibility for a ban, then keep it locked up and tell no one you have it.
I hear this kind of thing all the time and it always confuses me.

A future AWB would not make something that was previously legal to own, and that you DO own, suddenly illegal. Registered or not, you'd have no need to hide it away, assuming you own it prior to that future BAN. The item you already own would be grandfathered in. The law would not be retroactive, thereby requiring people to either turn in their now-contraband items, or have officials perform collection efforts. I just don't see that flying.

I think a safe bet on a future AWB would simply make it impossible to legally purchase newly classified contraband items, as of the go-live date of the ban.
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Originally Posted by centurion View Post
I was just wondering if You all think that the 10/22 being semi-auto will be on any Future Ban next year , my opinion is that it might IF an WHEN next year they try to push through one , I have and old one an she's been A good one, but right now with so many other things to buy I hate to spend money on it , but I would like to buy another one before any New BAN . I am just afraid they may be A shortage on firearms from people Panic buying , seams that there sealing faster than they can be made , I know things will slow down , when people think that they have bought enough or run low of money , whats yall's opinion on the 10/22 ? WILL IT BE ON THE BAN ?


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Will it be on a future ban? Quite possibly. Perhaps not, but I say it's better to error on the side of caution.

I had a 10/22 many years ago, and foolishly sold it some years back. I've been meaning to replace it for years. My gun purchases over the past couple of years have been based on what may be banned, come a future AWB - and the 10/22 finally made its way to the top of my list now that I've gotten some other purchases out of the way.

And I agree with some of the other comments about the likelihood of the high-cap mags being on the list, as well. I've got a few Butler Creek Steel Lips mags on hand, and a handful more on backorder.

Bottom line: Yes, consider the 10/22 a likely target for a future AWB. However, also keep it in perspective. There is no guarantee that there will be a future AWB. IF there is one, there is no guarantee that it'll happen soon. It very well may be the kind of thing that happens in Obama's second term (and that, of course, is predicated on there even being a second term).

Lots of variables here. My suggestion is to simply make whatever purchases you've already been planning on making. If there is something you've been planning to get (it's been a matter of when, not if), then plan out your purchases accordingly and perhaps prioritize things like the 10/22.

The craziness is in all the people that are purchasing things that never really interested them until all of this talk of those things someday being unavailable. It if never interested you previously, and you wouldn't have purchased it while you can, why would you go out and purchase it simply because you may not be able to later? That's just nuts.

An AR, for example: Doesn't interest me in the least. I don't own one and won't be buying one, regardless of the fact that a future AWB would target it.
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Originally Posted by cyberpunk View Post
I hear this kind of thing all the time and it always confuses me.

A future AWB would not make something that was previously legal to own, and that you DO own, suddenly illegal. Registered or not, you'd have no need to hide it away, assuming you own it prior to that future BAN. The item you already own would be grandfathered in. The law would not be retroactive, thereby requiring people to either turn in their now-contraband items, or have officials perform collection efforts. I just don't see that flying.

I think a safe bet on a future AWB would simply make it impossible to legally purchase newly classified contraband items, as of the go-live date of the ban.

wrong... here in NJ, when the original state AWB was put into place in 1990 you were to either register your assault rifle or discard of it within a year, if it was not discarded of you were subject to the full extent of the law. Now how they would find it if you didnt register it is beyond me, but the bottom line is that there is NO grandfathering of assault weapons or mags here, if you owned it before the ban you either registered it (which by the way, in order to register it you had to be a member of a shooting club),or you got rid of it, or you kept it and risked spending time in a state pen.
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Originally Posted by Exumer2687 View Post
wrong... here in NJ, when the original state AWB was put into place in 1990 you were to either register your assault rifle or discard of it within a year, if it was not discarded of you were subject to the full extent of the law. Now how they would find it if you didnt register it is beyond me, but the bottom line is that there is NO grandfathering of assault weapons or mags here, if you owned it before the ban you either registered it (which by the way, in order to register it you had to be a member of a shooting club),or you got rid of it, or you kept it and risked spending time in a state pen.
Are you saying that you had to register your pre-ban mags?? I don't see how this would have been possible, since these mags do not have unique serial numbers. Surely, your pre-ban mags were still legal after '94, no?

Sounds like you had some hoops to jump through, but were still able to keep your pre-ban 'assault weapons'...if willing to jump through those hoops.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not trivializing an AWB. But it sounds like, even in NJ (which surely ranked up there with the most red-tape for folks to work through) you were able to keep your pre-ban items.

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Originally Posted by cyberpunk View Post
Are you saying that you had to register your pre-ban mags?? I don't see how this would have been possible, since these mags do not have unique serial numbers. Surely, your pre-ban mags were still legal after '94, no?

Sounds like you had some hoops to jump through, but were still able to keep your pre-ban 'assault weapons'...if willing to jump through those hoops.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not trivializing an AWB. But it sounds like, even in NJ (which surely ranked up there with the most red-tape for folks to work through) you were able to keep your pre-ban items.
Hi-capacity magazines, pre-ban or not, are completely illegal in NJ.. doesnt matter when you bought it, if you own it now you go to prison. You were expected to turn them into the police if you owned them prior to 1990 which is when our state AWB came into place. You cannot own pre-ban mags here at all. We are the strictest state regarding the possesion of hi-capacity magazines, I hate it here.
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If you gun is registered I dont see a need to worry. State and Federal "gun buy back" schemes are all voluntary...they don't know who to contact, and even look at Katrina they confiscated weapons by going either door to door or just dumb luck. They dont know who has what. And if a ban comes you could hide your guns away with a friend if you think searchers will come. Hopefully the right to be secure in your papers and effects holds out, and it should. Its not like they can break into a house just because there is some suspicion that it contains drugs/illegal weapons. If some authority asks about your gun, tell em a private sale, you can forget the name or whatever you want. I don't worry much about confiscation under these conditions and also considering that government always fails to do exactly what it says.

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Originally Posted by cyberpunk View Post
Are you saying that you had to register your pre-ban mags?? I don't see how this would have been possible, since these mags do not have unique serial numbers. Surely, your pre-ban mags were still legal after '94, no?

Sounds like you had some hoops to jump through, but were still able to keep your pre-ban 'assault weapons'...if willing to jump through those hoops.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not trivializing an AWB. But it sounds like, even in NJ (which surely ranked up there with the most red-tape for folks to work through) you were able to keep your pre-ban items.
CA was much the same way. You could not sell them either. They could go with you if you moved out of state, but if you want to get rid of them, it has to be through a class 3 dealer, only. If you had a high cap mag before the ban you could keep it. Now 10 rounds is the limit, period! even rimfire.
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Originally Posted by handirifle View Post
CA was much the same way. You could not sell them either. They could go with you if you moved out of state, but if you want to get rid of them, it has to be through a class 3 dealer, only. If you had a high cap mag before the ban you could keep it. Now 10 rounds is the limit, period! even rimfire.
ok well jersey is a step ahead.. 15 is our limit, its a hard rule to follow. And the marlin tube fed is illegal here because of its capacity so I wouldnt be surpised if the 10/22 was thrown into an AWB. I doubt it will be though, I don't think the grabbers are all too keen on the mods available for the little 10/22, after all, without the folding stock and ramline magazine, its basically a boy scout rifle
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Originally Posted by Exumer2687 View Post
I doubt it will be though, I don't think the grabbers are all too keen on the mods available for the little 10/22, after all, without the folding stock and ramline magazine, its basically a boy scout rifle
I know this thread is about the 10/22, but didnt that happen with the m1 carbine though? didnt the wonderful lawmakers of NJ view a photo of the paratrooper carbine folding stock with bayo lug and jungle clip which is why it is illegal here? I read that somewhere, could be wrong.

but lets hope no one gets into trouble with a 10/22 on a folding stock and ramline mag that could ruin it for everyone else.

lets hope it doesnt happen... but as the boy scouts say, "be prepared"
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Originally Posted by jhs1970426 View Post
I know this thread is about the 10/22, but didnt that happen with the m1 carbine though? didnt the wonderful lawmakers of NJ view a photo of the paratrooper carbine folding stock with bayo lug and jungle clip which is why it is illegal here? I read that somewhere, could be wrong.

but lets hope no one gets into trouble with a 10/22 on a folding stock and ramline mag that could ruin it for everyone else.

lets hope it doesnt happen... but as the boy scouts say, "be prepared"
I've always wondered why the M1 carbine is illegal here, and that may very well be the reason.. Back in the 70s a chopped off, cheaply FA converted m1 carbine was a big hit amongst criminals evidently.
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I guess they're gonna love this one.
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Originally Posted by NY Marksman View Post
I guess they're gonna love this one.
Is that a rhineland stock? they actually look quite modern and refined. I think a 10/22 with a sawn off barrel in a cheap plastic folding stock with the folding part removed and a 50rd magazine with some duct tape on the grip is more of a target for the gun grabbers. The nice 2000 dollar looking sporter firearms dont have that "menacing" look that makes them wanna ban em. Just like how the m1 carbine is illegal in my state, because people would saw the stock off to make a pistol grip and saw off the barrel and tape two 30rd mags together. I think the more high-end looking the rifle, the less of a chance it will be banned. The colt AR-15 Sporter is illegal here in NJ, but the "match target" is not, I like to think because the match target is classier looking in all truthfulness with its smooth heavy barrel that has no muzzle attachment. Here is the gun that will make 10/22s a sure ban if they can find the picture


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Originally Posted by Exumer2687 View Post

Here is the gun that will make 10/22s a sure ban if they can find the picture

SO HIDE THIS PICTURE AND DONT LET THEM SEE IT!

that is a nice gun though...
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