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Old 03-21-2012, 21:03   #1
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1941 Finnish Mosin Nagant

Okay, kids, I've done it now. I was in a shop today looking around for an AK74. Didn't find one. The owner brought out a Finnish Mosin Nagant he had recently taken in trade and not even PRICED yet. I choked. These photos do NOT do it justice. Not even CLOSE. But here you go:









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Beautiful!!!!
If the bore is like most Finns and looks anything like the rest of the rifle, that's an absolutely awesome find!
I shouldn't even ask (because it was definitely worth it), but how much $ did you part with for that treasure?
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Beautiful!!!!
If the bore is like most Finns and looks anything like the rest of the rifle, that's an absolutely awesome find!
I shouldn't even ask (because it was definitely worth it), but how much $ did you part with for that treasure?
The bore is flawless. The rifle looks as beautiful inside as out. Maybe better. I was in a local gun shop, and mentioned to the owner that I had an interest in Mosin Nagants and had my eye out for an affordable Tokarev SVT-40. He walked into the back room and came out with this rifle, which he had not yet even priced, but had recently accepted in trade. My knees went weak. Before he even handed it to me, I could see that it had to be a Finn. Turns out, it's an M39, has both SA and VKT markings on the receiver. Dated 1941. I paid $340 for it.
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Very nice! Especially the stock.

When you have cause to disassemble it, check the tang for the date of the receiver.

You might be surprised.

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Originally Posted by freesw View Post
Very nice! Especially the stock.

When you have cause to disassemble it, check the tang for the date of the receiver.

You might be surprised.

Finn M39s
Thanks. I'll keep that in mind.
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Red face Watch out for the shims!

Please be very careful when you separate the stock from the receiver. If no one "messed" with it before you, there is probably some brass shims around the bedding block. The Finns used these shims to bed the action to the stock. In original rifles these shims may be coated in black "grease". You will want to take note where these shims are positioned. I learned this the hard way.

Great looking M39. Remember ?- I warned you about these in an older thread?

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Originally Posted by aimhigh View Post
Please be very careful when you separate the stock from the receiver. If no one "messed" with it before you, there is probably some brass shims around the bedding block. The Finns used these shims to bed the action to the stock. In original rifles these shims may be coated in black "grease". You will want to take note where these shims are positioned. I learned this the hard way.

Great looking M39. Remember ?- I warned you about these in an older thread?

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Yes, yes, you DID warn me. But when I saw this rifle, I had to have it. And thanks for mentioning the shims. Somebody told me about them a couple of days ago, but I had forgotten. Man, those Finns knew how to build a Mosin.
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Mosinka:

Since you didn't listen to me the first time, I'll give you a second chance with a second warning. Do not (repeat: DO NOT) pick up a Swiss K-31 at a gun show or gun store. It WILL follow you home. You will ignore your Mosins (except maybe the M-39) and spend an inordinant amount of time searching the Internet for 7.5x55 ammo. You will waste time by trying to "hydraulically" remove berdan primers. You will spend countless hours marveling over the bolt design. So.............. don't waste your time or $.

Just remember; I did warn you.

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For All:

If you would like a Finn M-39 mailed directly to your home (no FFL, no govt. red tape) go to: http://www.gunsnammo.com/ and check out the antiques she has listed.

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Originally Posted by aimhigh View Post
Mosinka:

Since you didn't listen to me the first time, I'll give you a second chance with a second warning. Do not (repeat: DO NOT) pick up a Swiss K-31 at a gun show or gun store. It WILL follow you home. You will ignore your Mosins (except maybe the M-39) and spend an inordinant amount of time searching the Internet for 7.5x55 ammo. You will waste time by trying to "hydraulically" remove berdan primers. You will spend countless hours marveling over the bolt design. So.............. don't waste your time or $.

Just remember; I did warn you.

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I did see a Schmidt-Ruben at a gun show back in January. The price was excellent for the magnificent beauty of the rifle, but the fact that the ammo was not common was enough to dissuade me.

On the other hand, I recently acquired a couple of 8mm mausers, one Yugoslavian and one Turk. Both were inexpensive. And while the Turk had "character", the Yugo is pristine. Both were under $200. Probably won't shoot them anytime soon though.

Still irresistible to me, though, are the Russian rifles.
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Wow, she's raised her prices for both antique and non-antique M39s.

Well, she does say the antiques are running short.

Swiss 7.5 isn't hard to find. But I'm not trying to tempt anyone. That would be wrong.
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The wood looks amazing.
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Originally Posted by theboonedockssaint View Post
The wood looks amazing.
Thanks. Yes, I love that tiger stripe look that it has. It was the first thing that I saw, and it won me over.
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is the wood suppose to be tigerstriped? or is it just a luck of the draw over many years type of thing?
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Originally Posted by whofarted View Post
is the wood suppose to be tigerstriped? or is it just a luck of the draw over many years type of thing?
I don't really know, whofarted.

I also don't know why the wood is striped that way.

I'm guessing that either a natural tendency of that variety of wood, or else just dumb luck on my part. I really find it eye catching though.
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The striping near the action is bitchen. It reminds me of some old crazy antique furniture.
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A good source of info on the M39 and Mosin Nagant generally:
The Model 1939

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The design of the m/39 stock is a considerable improvement over previous versions. It is considerably heavier in terms of thickness and durability in the pistol grip area and the forend; both areas were prone to frequent problems of breakage on previous models. The forearm on the new m/39 is considerably thicker due to the forward placement of a new barrel band. This forward placement allowed the forearm to be thickened slightly to add strength. The stock is still of a jointed design, forend spliced to the rear portion using a dovetailed or "finger" type interlocking splice. The original wartime produced stocks utilized a rounded type shape to the fingers in the splice. Later versions on replacement m/39 stocks were of a triangular shape pointed splice used during the transition period post war. This led to the final design of the joint to the square shaped fingers in the splice favored during the later manufacture of the stocks used in replacement and refurbishment of the rifles during the 1960’s and onward. These later two types, the triangular and square joint types are most often found on post war replacement stocks made of Birch (5). The initial production of stocks was made with Arctic birch wood that was resistant to warping or cracking in the extreme cold and temperature fluctuations found in Finland and the surrounding area. Some of the birch stocks can be found with a beautiful burl or pattern in the form of a tiger stripe or swirls in the wood grain.
You do have what looks like a spectacular and well-preserved example.
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Thank you, freesw. I appreciate that bit of information. And I agree with whofarted that the striping around the action of the rifle is "bitchen". A lucky find, I think. And certainly the queen of my Mosin collection.
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