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Old 01-17-2011, 10:28   #1
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trail boss 30-06

i found a load that hodgens had for trail boss (handgun powder) 30-06
150 grain bullet 13.3 to 19 grain powder....using my m1 sounded like a 22 going off...going to try my mosin nagant 7.62x54r...has anyone tried handgun loads for there rifles????
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no one... really?????
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Did your M-1 operate semi automatically? Or did you have to operate it manually? kwg
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Old 01-27-2011, 13:54   #4
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turns into a bolt action....not enought power to make the slide work...but the few rounds that i fired made a pretty good group. last night i did some loads for my mosin nagat 7.62x54r...using cast lead bullets...with clays,tite group,universel,and trail boss.....going to try that this sunday....
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13 (thirteen) grains of Red Dot / Promo is 'The Load' for this class case as descrbed by C.E. Harris
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Over on Shooting surplus military rifle forum they used 9 grains Trail Boss powder with alot of different calibers and had good accuracy with cast bullets ranging in weight from 160gr. to 200 gr.
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Yes. Almost every caliber of rifle I have has digested Trail Boss loads and others. 6.5 Swede, 7.5 Swiss, .308, 8mm. Also have used the Sinterfire frangibles and plastic South African riot bullets (18g). The reduced loads don't cycle an autoloader, but the m96, K31 and FR-7 don't notice...
You, no doubt, are familiar with:
Collecting and Shooting the Military Surplus Rifle (2008) - Surplusrifle.com
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http://hodgdon.com/PDF/Trail-Boss-data.pdf
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Originally Posted by CTSixshot View Post
Yes. Almost every caliber of rifle I have has digested Trail Boss loads and others. 6.5 Swede, 7.5 Swiss, .308, 8mm. Also have used the Sinterfire frangibles and plastic South African riot bullets (18g). The reduced loads don't cycle an autoloader, but the m96, K31 and FR-7 don't notice...
You, no doubt, are familiar with:
Collecting and Shooting the Military Surplus Rifle (2008) - Surplusrifle.com
and:
http://hodgdon.com/PDF/Trail-Boss-data.pdf
?So explain to me why you are doing this. Old black powder cartridges like .45 Colt, .38 Long Colt, and .45-70 had large cases (well, 2 out of 3 at least) because it took that much black powder to shoot a healthy round. Smokeless invention made black obsolete, and made cases smaller. Cowboy shooting brought back the old black powder guns, but because most of us shot smokeless, it meant that even if you shot a full-house .45 Colt, you didn't put much powder in that huge case (eg. 6.2 gr of Titegroup in a .45 Colt for max load - WAY less than the case took). Trail boss was designed to be a bulky powder to take up space. 5# of Trail Boss uses the same cans as the usual 8# of regular powder. So the cowboy shooters were finally given an option to load their cases fairly full yet still shoot something lighter than full house.

You are talking about weapons that were designed for smokeless. Part of whatever advantage you get from the calibre you choose is the case capacity. Yet you are shooting far less than the case capacity. ?Why not just shoot a smaller calibre. I'm just not following the reasoning here, other than "I can".
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A smaller caliber, yes, that's an option, too.
It's kind of like what the writer of the KISS article stated, one powder that's versatile in multiple calibers that gives you an economical load for plinking and punching holes in paper.
Quite simply, I don't have a 22 rifle and I like shooting the mil-surps. It's just not required to shoot full-blown loads everytime I pull the trigger. Sometimes it's just a matter of what powders I have in stock.
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Originally Posted by achingass View Post
i found a load that hodgens had for trail boss (handgun powder) 30-06
150 grain bullet 13.3 to 19 grain powder....using my m1 sounded like a 22 going off...going to try my mosin nagant 7.62x54r...has anyone tried handgun loads for there rifles????

jacketed bullets or hard cast?
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Old 04-16-2011, 05:22   #11
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Although I don't make a habit of it, plus the fact that I come by modestly-priced jacketed fodder more often, I have loaded the Saeco 081 (190g LRNGC) with about 24g of IMR 4198 in my Hakim with full functioning. Can't say it's run enough to clog the gas tube or anything detrimental.
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