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Old 12-07-2008, 18:05   #1
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What are some popular .223 recipes?

Hey all,
First time .223 owner (2 Mini 14's, one NRA, one LE 16" barrel), both brand new.
I've reloaded .270 and .338 for years. I've just ordered my small base die set for my RCBS for the .223 and am looking for some good hunting rounds recipes to try out. I'm extremely careful about posting/reading ammo recipes on the internet, so please include the source of the recipe so that I can research it. I feel like I need to stock up on a good all around powder or two also, so please be specific.
Also include bullet manufacturer and type.

Would like info on:
1. Plinking rounds
2. Hunting rounds (coyote, groundhog, rabbit, etc.)
3. PD rounds

Hoping the hunting rounds can serve dual purpose as PD rounds.

Thanks in advance!
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H335 (WC844) with CCI #41 or #450 primers

23.5 grs behind a nasty looking m193 pull is a plinking load of mine. Not very accurate though. This load wont cycle reliably in a 10" AR, and 50 yards it wont fragment in hard red dirt. In a carbine it runs fine.

25 grains for a higher velocity round.
those are safe thresholds.

I think the new speer data is wrong. 26 gr max charge is too hot.
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Old 12-08-2008, 14:37   #3
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Here's my favorite load for my mini. Winchester cases, weight matched, primer pockets equalized, flash holes deburred, cases trimmed to length with sinclair tool and case mouths chamfered with sinclair (wilson) case trimming tool with chamfering cutter. CCI 400 primers, 25 gr aa2520 powder and Sierra's 65gr spitzer BT. OAL 2.259 This load uses a heavy expanding bullet that I'm sure would work well on deer size critters or men. Although its illegal in my state, Washington, for deer it is legal for cougar.I shot a 20 shot group with my mini at 100 yards that measured 1.438" and was shot with no interuptions or cleaning, from a cold barrel to a hot one. I think you will find that this is a mild load if you compare it to some in loading manuals. Hope it works as well for you as it does for me. Frank
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Old 12-09-2008, 08:29   #4
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This link had some specific loads for AR-15's, but I'm not sure if the Mini-14's have bolt issues similar to the AR... (I own neither and have shot each very little, but you can determine if it is relevant for your weapon):
http://www.6mmbr.com/223Rem.html
Go down to the reloading section with the "Sierra" link for .223 Rem loads for AR-15's.
Good luck.
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My preferred round for the Mini14 (older & less twist) is a 55 gr FMJBT match bullet with 24.5 gr of IMR 4895. I'm one of the lucky ones that has a very accurate Mini. I also use a 62 gr SS109 from Widners with 24.0 IMR4895 and it's work very well.
Overall the 55 grain works best. Bench rested and scope mounted it shoots 1-1.5" MOA @ 100 yards and a 4-6" pattern @ 200 yards. You have the occasional flyer but not to far off pattern.
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Winchester Small Rifle Primers
25gr H-335
Midway Dogstown 55gr JSP or Mantana Gold 55gr FMJ
Lake City or Remington brass
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Old 09-07-2011, 06:36   #7
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I have used win 748 and H335, the loads that I have used came from Hodgdon's book and from an older win powder book, I have used mostly win bulk bullets, they do about 1.5 in my ars and about 4in, in my 181 series mini.
I have found that you do not ned small base dies to load either one. Ruger cuts generous chambers and the ars that I have have 5.56 chambers. With one of my ars I managed to get three 75gr A-max Horndys in one hole that could be easely covered with a dime. These were loaded close to the lands and would not work in a magazine.
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This thread was started years ago, but it is still relevant today. I use hornady #2267 FMJBT bullets for plinking with 22.5 grs. of IMR 3031 and CCI small rifle primers. These are light loads and very easy on the brass. Your peak accuracy with these bullets will be between 22.5 and 23.0 grs, most likely. In reading articles by people far more knowledgeable than myself, it makes no difference what type of brass you use, whether civilian or military, your recipie will be the same. I don't know Jack, but John Barsness does.

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25 grains of AA2230 for 55 grain bullets. I need a chrony but I'm guessing around 3000 fps. kwg
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I wont give you a recipe..However the only powder I use for my .223 is Win 748. Then I add in some Sierra bullets,Win cases and primers.

5 @ 100 My home built AR15 varminter

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Win 748

I second steel tallon on the 748
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I only run varget and 8208XBR in my 223 loads... not that it matters... to each rifle, its own..

BUT... I can tailor loads for most manufacturers' bullets in the 50-60 grain weight to hit dime sized groups as well... if I do my part out of all of my AR15's in .223.
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Yupper. Varget.
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I bought some Varget to try with my AR10 and some 165 grain Noslers. It didn't work well. So what to do with almost a pound of Varget. I thought what the heck and tried it with some 60 grain Noslers in .223. They shot very nice. I normally use 2230 in my AR.

I have also pulled the bullets from M855 Lake City Ammo for a friend who shoots on the ANG Rifle team. I got to keep the powder and the bullets. I cut the powder by 10% and loaded them back up in previously used Lake City Brass. These also shoot very well.
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I use blc(2) powder with a nosler 55gr ballistic tip.

Thats 5 shots a 100 yards on a 1/2" square

I use that round for deer hunting in Texas
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Ditto on the BLC2 powder (WC846) it meters so well in my Dillon powder measure.

25 gr with 55 gr recycled bullets. Load is from Lyman 49 and is midrange not hot.

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I have a question. I am loading223 55 Gr FMJ. I want to use Varget as I have plenty of it and It is short extrusions and works pretty good in dispencer. I can't find the min and Max charges and velocities . I can find everything but Varget. Can some one help me with this? Thank you
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This should help, click on the image it will lead you to their load Data

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Start at 24.5 and work up to about 26.5. I've switched over to using TAC as I feel it does a little better in metering. If someone else doesn't chime in I'll get you more later this afternoon as far a velocity and loads.
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26 Gr of varget in a 223 is a highly compressed load.
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Originally Posted by Country shooter View Post
I have a question. I am loading223 55 Gr FMJ. I want to use Varget as I have plenty of it and It is short extrusions and works pretty good in dispencer. I can't find the min and Max charges and velocities . I can find everything but Varget. Can some one help me with this? Thank you
Hornady manual says 22.8 starting load with 26.4 as max for 3200 fps.
Why don't you send me some of that varget then we'll both have some?
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Speer Manual:

55 gr FMJBT seated at a COAL of 2.215 Varget@25.0 gr/2969 fps to 27.0/3216 fps. The 27 grains is not compressed according to the manual, but I bet it don't like just a whole bunch.

55 gr TBBC SP calls for 25.0 gr/2910 FPS to 26.0gr compressed/3046 FPS with a COAL of 2.220

I will typically start low but end up with a load at the 'high end plus' but increase the COAL to about 2.26 as that is about all the Mini mags will accommodate reliably. I wouldn't go any longer trying to get a better fit to lands unless you want to hand load 'em as they start jamming at around 2.28. Of course all this is on 'my' calipers.
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It is nearly impossible to overload a .223 with VARGET powder! Case capacity limits the amount you can shove in there... unless you are REALLY trying to hurt yourself... you just cant get too much VARGET in a .223 case. military brass even less, as they have less volume inside than some civilian production brass.

I find 25 grains of varget works very well. no need to try to compress more in there than you need. sometimes LESS IS MORE. lose a few FPS in velocity for better ACCURACY...
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Hornady manual also calls for 2.220 OAL but since I am loading for an AR I can load as long as 2.295 and still feed reliably (which is what I do load to in the 6.8) only about 2.230 in .223. depending on the projectile.
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Originally Posted by Steel_Talon View Post
I wont give you a recipe..However the only powder I use for my .223 is Win 748. Then I add in some Sierra bullets,Win cases and primers.

5 @ 100 My home built AR15 varminter

and I'll bet it's about 27 grains of 748 in commercial cases topped with Sierra 52 grain HPBT.......
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