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Old 09-20-2010, 05:21   #26
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Originally Posted by StevieGuns77 View Post
I just purchased my first pistol (Beretta 92) 3 weeks ago, right after my 21st birthday. My next purchase is going to be a revolver in .357, as primarily a bedroom/home defense gun. I came across a few from Smith and Wedsson and Taurus that have 8 round cylinders. These guns fit my idea of a an ideal bedroom pistol. All of them are larger frames with longer barrels. I am a big guy and have big hands, so I prefer larger framed pistols. I have shot both a S&W and Ruger .357 a few months back, and the recoil was very managable for me. I want to stick with an 8 round model because I think it gives me the best of all worlds. I know there are many good autos out there that are just as reliable as a revolver and with magazines that can stay loaded for a long time with no wear on the springs, but for this purpose I would rather go with a revolver. The 8 round capacity may not be as much as the 15 rounds I have with my Beretta, or all the other Hi-cap autos out there, but I think 8 rounds of .357 is plenty to get the job done.

The models I am considering:

Smith and Wesson model 627

http://www.davidsonsinc.com/consumer...c=50&item_num=

Middle of the road model out of the 3 I am considering, I like all of the features, but the other models have longer barrels, which I prefer in this situation.

Smith and Wesson Model 327 TRR8

http://www.davidsonsinc.com/consumer...c=50&item_num=

The most expensive choice, but it has removable top and bottom rails, so I can mount a light if I wish, which would be a good tool for home defense, and it also has 5" barrel.

Taurus model 608

http://www.davidsonsinc.com/consumer...c=50&item_num=

This one has a 6.5" barrel, and 4 and 8 inch barrels are also available, however I think I would go with the 6.5", or possible the 4". The thing that attracted me to the Taurus is the price, however I have read about some reliability issues with these guns.


Basically, This would be my primary weapon that I would trust my life to. I do not want to skimp and get the cheeper gun, but if the extra money is overkill, then I will go with the Taurus. I have not handled any of these guns, but I am sure of one massive gunstore about 45 minutes from me that should have all in stock for me to handle before I purchase. I am leaning twords the Smith model 327 TRR8. It is the most expensive, but IMO is the best one. The other smith is about $1000, so if I am going to spend that much, I might as well spend $300 more and get the best. For about $600 I can get the Taurus, but I am concerned with its relaibility and durability. I will probably practice with and shoot this gun more than any others because it will be my primary defense gun, and I want something that will hold up. Any advice/experience would be greatly appreciated guys.


you listed two smiths both of which are fine models then your third choice is a Taurus? LOL check out a ruger GP100 IMO its better than the smiths and way!! better than that taurus.
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Old 09-21-2010, 01:58   #27
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Originally Posted by Joe Garibaldi View Post
My $0.02 is not to use a light for home defense. In your own home, you have the, well, home-field advantage. By using a light, you blind yourself to what's not in that light, and also become a lighthouse for the bad guy's fire. So, if it were me, I wouldn't pay the extra money for rails.
Strange, I have done residential sweeps, worked 100's of hours at night with lights, and have never been blinded by my own light, but I dont stare into it either - its in front of me.

If lights are so bad, better let all the LEO's and soldiers know, or they are all gonna get shot real quick.

The gentleman that designed the Surefire light, was originally contracted by the government for a non-lethal laser weapon. during this course, he came up with a flash light that was capable of temporarily blinding an opponent.
Kind of hard to hit something, when you vision is shot - its not like a green laser.

Rails can also be added later.
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I agree with fishslayer, A 357 mag indoors is an eardrum buster! and no BG is going to give you time to put your muffs on.
Most reasonable caliber sized weapons are pretty loud inside.
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Over penetration can be an issue, but I think some people take it too far, and arent being realistic. Most of the loads we would use can over penetrate. One can argue all day that this round and that round have a higher probability. The problem with that argument, is that you dont get to choose if someone breaks in, when, where, etc. Most of all, if you have to use your weapon, you are not likely to get your ideal backdrop. So thin walls, windows, cheap doors, sliders, garage doors, etc., are going to all come out the same. This is one of the reason we use ammo that expands - hollowpoints. The first reason is that they get real big, make big holes, and cause a lot of damage. So, make sure you are not using ball, and pick good defense ammo, one that is tested to not over penetrate, and one that is tested to expand well.
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Originally Posted by cqbinkalifornia View Post
Most reasonable caliber sized weapons are pretty loud inside.

I've used a 9mm inside a structure to be quite honest I dont even remember the muzzle report I barely remember pulling the trigger.
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See, it was so loud, you lost your memory!

9mm and 38spl are going to be more quiet, interesting too how barrel length, and revolver vs. auto can impact sound.
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Originally Posted by cqbinkalifornia View Post
See, it was so loud, you lost your memory!

9mm and 38spl are going to be more quiet, interesting too how barrel length, and revolver vs. auto can impact sound.
the point I was making is when adrenaline is pumping it seems to numb your senses...
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Originally Posted by cqbinkalifornia View Post
Strange, I have done residential sweeps, worked 100's of hours at night with lights, and have never been blinded by my own light, but I dont stare into it either - its in front of me.

If lights are so bad, better let all the LEO's and soldiers know, or they are all gonna get shot real quick.

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You've missed my point, and the thread's subject, which was defense of your own house, where you know the terrain better than an intruder. Police or military raids of someone else's house are an entirely different matter.

Also, I didn't say the light would blind you, but blind you to "what's not in that light."

I can make my way through my own house in pitch dark. An intruder is unlikely to have that ability. Like I said, the light would be a lighthouse at which the intruder could aim.

In the dark, I'd see an intruder long before I'm seen. Advantage - me.

If I use a light, an intruder can locate me before I do him, unless I spot him with the light at the instant I turn it on. Advantage - lost.

If my logic is flawed here, please correct me, but correct me on the point I've made. Your post above did not.

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Originally Posted by pburnster View Post
For Home defense, I choose a shotgun.

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A high penetration round like the .357 is as much a danger to people in the next room - House?! - as it is to the perp.

My 00.02.
I'd like another 2 cents. I've gone round and round on this with friends, and am curious what you're opinion is.

Unless you live alone, a home invader is quite possibly/likely going to be in between you and a loved one, or at least close. They aren't all bumps in the night when you and yours are safely asleep . . . they're often sudden, and sometimes are just the bad guy following someone into the dwelling.

In such a situation, using a shotgun is not an option. A pistol allows you to aim for the bad guy without hitting a good guy. As mentioned above, there's pistol ammo that won't over-penetrate, but all shot is going to expand.

Like I said, if you live alone it's not a concern. But if you don't, doesn't a shotgun limit your options?

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Originally Posted by HighDesertWolf View Post
the point I was making is when adrenaline is pumping it seems to numb your senses...
Dave Grossman's "On Combat" discusses many studies showing the same thing. Adrenaline apparently causes tunnel vision and loss of hearing.

I've never been involved in a shooting, but was in a bad car wreck as a passenger. I heard none of what must have been extremely loud metal crunching, and saw ONLY that car in front of us.

That's one of the reasons many (most?) trainers teach to look left and right before reholstering, since if you've fired in a stressful situation, you probably won't have seen or heard anything in your periphery.

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for most folks with less than average skill level a .38spcl or even a .32 S&Wlong is about ideal
a step up is a .44spcl or even .45acp revolver (moonclips too) or the boomer .357
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Originally Posted by Marlin 45 carbine View Post
for most folks with less than average skill level a .38spcl or even a .32 S&Wlong is about ideal
a step up is a .44spcl or even .45acp revolver (moonclips too) or the boomer .357

but a 44 spcl from a 44 magnum frame is quite manageable even for the novice.
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Originally Posted by HighDesertWolf View Post
but a 44 spcl from a 44 magnum frame is quite manageable even for the novice.
you are correct, recoil is absorbed by the heavy frame
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Any (functional and loaded) gun is better than no gun at all. I don't believe there is a "right" or "wrong" gun for the job. However, what a person should have is based on his/her KSA (Knowledge/Skills/Ability).

I have had very good encounters with Taurus revolvers. S&Ws are pretty , but are generally overpriced for what they are. I own an SP101, GP100 (both 357s) and a 41m Blackhawk. My buddy has a Taurus Raging Bull 454 and a 357 M617 (I think). Both are excellent.
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When things go "bump in the night" around here, I arm up with a Glock 22-C in .40 S&W. I go from room-to-room with that gun and use one hand to hold the gun and sometimes use the other hand to turn on lights and open doors. If I hear something coming up to the house, I arm up with my handgun in a holster and get either my M-4 clone or my 870 Remington ready to go. I would then intercept the person coming into the house. Lead time and tactics dictate what I do and with what I arm myself.
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I understand about the 8 shot capability, but IMO six rounds is all you will ever need in a home-defense scenario.

I went with the Ruger GP100 for that reason. I keep mine with several pre-loaded speedloaders handy. This should be adequate for absolutely any contingency.

If you must have more than a six round cylinder, I would go with the S&W over the Taurus every time. You cannot go wrong with either Ruger, S&W, or a good Colt. When you are buying a firearm, you are really buying into the company that manufactures it. Ruger is legendary for its customer service, which is why I went that way. I understand that S&W is also very good. Just two examples.

I like the 6 inch barrel, but the 4 inch is also very good and more than adequate for HD.

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I have a S&W 629 .44 mag, a glock 29SF 10mm auto, and an 870 express all within relatively close reach.
In a HD situation I would probably reach for one of the hand guns. My humble opinion is that in the close confines of my home, trying to swing a shotgun around is going to really annoy me with a "bull in the china shop" kind of feeling.
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I havent posted in awhile but I picked up the smith and wesson 327 trr8 about a month ago. I really like the gun. It is my first revolver and it is on nightstand duty. I have taken it to the range twice. I am new to revolver shooting so I did not shoot it as well as my beretta 92fs or my XD .45. I know it is an accurate gun I just couldn't group too well with it, but good enought to be able to get consistent center mass shots while shooting relatively fast. I just need to practice with it but I just got some snap caps so I can work on my trigger pull.
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Amen to HighDesertWolf...In AZ, a 12-gauge is the home defense weapon of choice. If a guy just must have a revolver though, and if it's for home defense (not CCW), why not go for it and get a Ruger Alaskan .454? Woo Hoo! Now that's what I call home defense!
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You've missed my point, and the thread's subject, which was defense of your own house, where you know the terrain better than an intruder.
While one may know the terrain they still need to identify who they are pointing their gun at, or shooting. Lights mounted to the gun help to do this. Most folks won't remember to grab the flashlight when they grab their gun without a significant amount of training and expirience. The WML helps with this.

Now let's say you've heard that infamous "bump in the night." You come around the corner of your hallway and see a dark silhouette of a figure. He or she is heading towards your child's room. In your mental state you think it's the Booger Man come to harm your precious three year old darlin'. You shoot, and the figure you shot crumples to the floor crying in a voice that sounds more like a wounded cat.

Congratualtions Hero!

You just shot your wife.

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I like a weapon mounted light just to keep that other hand free. You might need to open a door, turn on another light, reload, un-jam a weapon, etc.
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I MAYBE OLD SCHOOL BUT I Think a S&W Mod66 4" barrel with (6) six Rnds of .357 Mag to be enough for the job.
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I have a 627, and 8 shots is comforting. Damn accurate gun. Recoil is a non-issue because it's a tank. Trigger is smooth. Costly option but it's a great gun.

I was so proud shooting mine at the range and I saw the guy in the range next to me with a gun that looked the same. It was a Taurus 608. Damn nearly looked the same. Trigger felt pretty damn good. I didn't shoot it because I had already run out of ammo. For half the price? That is a TOUGH call. I know their reputation hasn't been great recently, but I still have my 1994 Taurus 605 Snubby. No issues at all. It's worth looking at one, honestly. You'll have more money for ammo AND a shotgun with this option. I would recommend checking the Taurus gun owners forum for any issues that they may have. I would guess minimal coming from a revolver. Taurus Semiautos are not that great except for their 1911 and Beretta look alike.

In the middle, I'd say Ruger GP100. I just bought a 6" SS and it's coming next week. Solid, reliable, affordable. The trigger is smooth enough for shooting double action, easily. Not as smooth as my Colt Python.

I have these to supplement my 12 gauge Mossberg 930SPX (however, I also have an FN 12 gauge pump and Saiga Tactical 12 with multiple magazines coming).

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I cannot tell you what to do. -I- own S&W Model 15's with 4-inch barrels. Yes, they are .38 Specials. For home and personal defense, the late NYPD Jim Cirillo stated that the full wadcutter was the best load for a snubby .38 Special revolver. Now, it has been stated all over all the boards that, for all .38 special revolvers with the longer 4-inch barrels, that the standard lead semi-wadcutter, and the lead semi-wadcutter plus-p hollow point, (also known as the FBI load), work very well. You may choose so, but I do not, use plus-p ammunition. The lead rounds have been around for many years, and have done the job. Hollow points may fail to disintegrate, as designed. Wadcutters and semi-wadcutters have no such design flaw.
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I just purchased a LCR 357 for my night stand gun ,and rem 1187 18" with # 4 buck is about 6 steps away . I prefer shotguns for HD but I fell in love with wife's 38 lcr so I went one up and bought 357 just my preference though.
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