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Old 07-18-2009, 21:04   #1
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Need a good camp gun Should I get .44 or .357

Hello, I am looking to get a good camp gun, I want to get get something with a good knock down and also good penetration. I Have a .45 auto but am thinking more of a wheel gun. What would you recomend and why?

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Old 07-18-2009, 23:00   #2
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if weight is a consideration a smaller .357 would be better if not then a a .44 or maybe a .45acp wheely.
but my personal camp pistol is a 9 shot .22LR wheely, 6" bbl. a .22 on a .32 frame.
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Old 07-19-2009, 00:53   #3
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A revolver you may consider is a Ruger flat top in 44 special made exclusively for Lipsey's. http://www.lipseys.com/ This is a remake of the smaller frame that Ruger used for the 357 mag. before they switched to the larger frame that is used now. This gun's weight is 42 ozs. for the 4 5/8" barreled model. This gives you a lighter and more compact gun with adequate power for elk. Elmer Kieth used his #5 in 44 special for over 30 years when he was a guide. It can be loaded down with cast round nose bullets for small game or loaded with Keith's #429421 250 flat nose at 1200 fps. This load will shoot through an elk. There is a good article by Brian Pearce in Handloader Magazine #260, June 2009, in which he reviews this revolver, lists handloads and writes about the 44 special in general. I would recommend the 5 1/2" barrel model.
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Myself I say knock down power and packability, S&W 329 PD 4" barrel at 26 ounces, you don't really feel it's there but you know it is.
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Depends on what you plan to defend against. Either a .357 or .44 could work. If it is big critters, than penetration is very important. Hard cast lead bullets with large meplate in weights heavy for the caliber are very good. In .357 that probably means 158 to 180 gr. bullets. In .44 bullets from 240 to 300 would work well. Load them to velocities that remain controlable, in the range of 1100 to 1200 fps.

As far as gun go, decide on single action or double action. Most people feel more comfortable with double action, but if you are a CAS shooter, you may feel more comfortable with single action.

I like stainless, but blued certainly works, it just requires more care in the field.

There are some very light revos now. They are light enough that they can be hard to hit with. I have a very nice S&W 360 Kit Gun. It weighs all of 16 oz. with Pachmayr grips. It shoots well, but with full power loads it begins to recoil significantly before the bullet has left the barrel, making good hits much more difficult.

A pretty good compromise for me is probably my S&W 60 Pro. It is a stainless 3" J frame .357 with good adjustable sights, and weighs 24.6 oz. and is controlable with full powered ammo. I also have a 60-18, which is the 5" .357 J frame. It is 27.6 oz.
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Originally Posted by ironartist View Post
Myself I say knock down power and packability, S&W 329 PD 4" barrel at 26 ounces, you don't really feel it's there but you know it is.
The 329 is a great choice if you are carrying more than shooting. I like the one i shot but I would recommend changing the grips to something that covers the back strap like X frame grips.
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I put s&w 500 grips on mine to cover that backstrap, sure makes it easies shooting with 300 grainers
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Do not over look the 41 MAG. You said camp gun. Where are you camping ? That would make a big different as to where you are camping.
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Elmer Kieth was the Daddy of the 44 and I think the 41 He worked with S&W on them
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Myself I'm camping in the woods of ALASKA I carry a BIG GUN cause we got BIG BEARS. Here's from my last weekends trip
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If I were in the Alaskan woods, I would be carrying my 57 oz. 5" .500.
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Perhaps a S&W Mountain Gun. My personal choice would be 45 Colt, but there's choices in .44 magnum, .357 magnum and I believe they made one in .41 magnum. I like the tapered barrel and it carries well.
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Originally Posted by ironartist View Post
Myself I'm camping in the woods of ALASKA I carry a BIG GUN cause we got BIG BEARS. Here's from my last weekends trip
That is a nice looking horse. Looks like you are going for a few days! How longe will you be out ?
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Went in and hauled to my partners hunting camp out it was just a overnighter for me and the horse. This is his first season out in the woods, he's a big green broke boy, and my hunting buddy. Next year he'll be a seasoned boy and the packtrips will be more intence. Thanks for the compliment on my horse, he's a fine looking boy
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definitely if big bears are around you need something with a BIG WHACK! in the eastern woods a good .22LR with max power cartridges will do for a 'camp pistol' but if hunting any other than small game or defending against anything larger than small black bears and coyotoes (my experience is 'yotes will run at the sight of a gun) then a .357mag - I have a GP that I have taken a few times but I no longer hunt with pistols and when I did I used my C&B '44's a '58 Rem and a ROA loaded to max with a Lee mold slug. sometimes I take them camping still just to practice with. in the east a camper is well armed with a C&B '44 IMO. I know I don't feel 'undergunned' with mine.
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For a camping handgun, I would choose a .357 over a .44. The .357 offers more variety in available loadings (when you include .38 Spcl), and a 3" or 4" revolver in .357 is fairly easy to handle. My recommendation would be a S&W Model 60 or Ruger SP101.
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Originally Posted by ironartist View Post
Myself I say knock down power and packability, S&W 329 PD 4" barrel at 26 ounces, you don't really feel it's there but you know it is.
+1 Also nice is the 327PD lightweight scandium frame 8 shot 357 magnum.
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Old thread.


.44 with a 4-5" barrel

S&W 329PD would be one smooth looking camp gun.
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my camp gun is a ruger GP100 357 mag. eventually id like to get a ruger redhawk in 44 mag.
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Get a 4" service revolver. I have a stainless (Blued is cheaper $$) Taurus model 65 with fixed sights in .357 magnum. It shoots Magtech 158 gr soft points very well. It's fairly light and will handle any issue you may come across where you live. You may think about a Puma rifle as a companion for the revolver. I have a Marlin 1894C in .357 and a better outdoor/camping combo would be hard to find. We have a lot of drug smugglers here and one can never be too prepared..
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Originally Posted by thetoad45 View Post
Get a 4" service revolver. I have a stainless (Blued is cheaper $$) Taurus model 65 with fixed sights in .357 magnum. It shoots Magtech 158 gr soft points very well. It's fairly light and will handle any issue you may come across where you live. You may think about a Puma rifle as a companion for the revolver. I have a Marlin 1894C in .357 and a better outdoor/camping combo would be hard to find. We have a lot of drug smugglers here and one can never be too prepared..

when im in southern Arizona my camp gun is a AR-15.
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I used to have a Lew Horton 624, 3 inch 44 Special, this was the best that I had for a camp gun. Even tho it was an N frame the 3 inch barrel made it ride in a holster all day without hardly noticing it. I would step up to 44 Mag if I expected more than 2 legged varmints.
I now have a 4 inch 21-4 that I'm still looking for the right grips for before I'm totally happy with my New camp gun. I had Fuzzy Farrants on the 624.
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