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Old 04-13-2011, 19:50   #1
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Extremely disturbing sentiments On the PU...

I've made the mistake of looking in the religion section of this board.
(which leads me to a separate and off (this) topic question that i'll ponder later - What does a board dedicated to the Bill of Rights need with a religion section?!)

Anyway - I've observed several disturbing posts in here that I just can't sit by and allow to stand without my $.02.
the people that really need to hear what I'm about to say probably won't actually understand - or care... and will continue to spew their hate mongering and rhetoric under the guise of Christian piety.

as to my personal religious beliefs - I'll just say that I neither confirm nor deny the existence of a higher power. - however -organized religion concerns me, doesn't matter which flavor you pick... they all are great in theory but once it's put in practice with real people? it all turns into a Charlie Foxtrot.

this being said I've seen a few comments regarding Islam, by a few so called Christians that are just SICK. We are Americans first, and whatever religion you are second, And America does NOT repeat, Does NOT Hate or dislike a people based on Race, Religion, Gender etc.

there have been some very evil Christians that have done terrible things in the name of god, and subverted His word to make faithful people accomplish their own nefarious goals. So it has been with Islam. Once you add human greed and lust for power to a Religious movement with faithful followers - you no longer have a Congregation of faithful... you have an army of zealots. A very very dangerous army willing to do anything to anyone because they actually believe they are doing something for the faith which they hold in such high regard. This is a fallacy of the most dangerous sort - it breeds hate, and war, and strife and death - nothing good can come of it.

How many of you have ever actually looked at a Koran or studied Islam from a non religious standpoint (ie: outside observer) ?
did you Know:

That the term Infidel actually applies only to Pagans and Atheists and Apostates?

That Islam actually recognizes faithful Christians and Jews as "people of the book" (perhaps a little flawed in their style of worship - but people of the "one true god" and worthy of tolerance nevertheless.)

The Islamic Koran and the Christan Bible and Hebrew Torah are so similar to each other in some respects that if you change the passages just a little bit, you would get the same lessons?

Before you blindly decide to hate a people or group - LEARN ALL YOU CAN about them and make an informed decision, instead of just doing what the next guy in the pew is doing.

I recommend that unless you truly understand what Islam is all about (not what YOUR church says about it, or what what ever political leader you follow says about it, or whatever idiot pundits you suckle your ideas from say about it) but actually learn what the religion is about. you'll see that the followers of Islam are not unlike you Christians in many respects.

there is an excellent group of articles on wikipedia to get you started. I recommend you start there and at least Know what you are talking about when you say something idiotic like:

"I hate those Muslims, we should kill them all"

(yes, I have actually seen a post by a forum member that stated this - not quite verbatim, but very very close)

Please endeavor to grow a brain, and actually use it for yourself.

thank you, That is all.
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Old 04-13-2011, 20:13   #2
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You're right, of course.

The persons pushing those attitudes are on the wrong side of history. This country could be taken over by ultra-nationalists perverting religion for their own sick ends, but if that happens, it won't last. They'll come to a bad end if they do, just as happened time and again during the last century to every fascist regime. Some fascists did escape justice and retired in peace, but without exception they're reviled and their countries are no longer fascist. Americans sure won't stand for it for long. I already know what they're about; those who don't yet realize it are waking up fast.

Otherwise, and far more likely, they'll never take power, the inexorable march of demography will phase them out, and they'll become more and more irrelevant, muttering and posting ever more incoherently in their bitter dotage. The lucky and blessed will snap out of it, perhaps during a life crisis, or a vacation in the mountains, woods or seaside. Maybe while playing with a grandkid. Or as one of newfound love's happy side-effects. It happens. Unfortunately, the manufacture of sectarian hate is big business in this country, and there is a lot of propaganda generated for the express purpose of keeping the rage simmering. The sinister, diabolical purposes are the topic for "that other" subforum. The stoking and manipulation of bigotry is the method, religious prejudices, the lever.
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Snuffy you are painting this pretty picture of muslims and how ''we dont understand them'' and Islam is a peaceful religon. Well im sorry I dont see the same thing you do. Im not pushing my religon on anyone. Its a personal choice to make, not one to be made for you. Im not going to kill you if you dont become a Christian. In my lifetime I have yet to see even the most fanatical Christian do what I have seen muslims do in the name of GOD. Maybe I got it all wrong, but I dont think so.
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Originally Posted by qwman68 View Post
Snuffy you are painting this pretty picture of muslims and how ''we dont understand them'' and Islam is a peaceful religon. Well im sorry I dont see the same thing you do. Im not pushing my religon on anyone. Its a personal choice to make, not one to be made for you. Im not going to kill you if you dont become a Christian. In my lifetime I have yet to see even the most fanatical Christian do what I have seen muslims do in the name of GOD. Maybe I got it all wrong, but I dont think so.

Islam is not any more or less peaceful than Christianity or Judaism.

you didn't read my post carefully. read it again and THINK for the love of god.

you take for granted what we have here In the united states.

most of the countries in the Middle east do not enjoy the freedoms
that we do here in the US. this being said there is NO secularity in that part of the world. which means corrupt and morally bankrupt people posing as "good Muslims" can rule a country and force it's people do whatever the hell they want them to do... in the name of the Faith. if they don't play ball - they kill their own people because as religious leaders AND the rulers of countries they are rebelling against the word of Allah. (which in this case is whatever the maniac running the country says it is.)

the problem Isn't Islam as a religion... or Muslims as a people - it's the nut jobs that come to power by force and claim that it is the will of god. when you are a poor goat herder in a non secular military dictatorship - you'd be pretty hard pressed to try and rebel when your leaders have mechanized infantry and air support and are not afraid to unleash it on their own people.

I paint no "pretty picture" of Islam, it's as flawed as any other organized religious system - I only attempt to point out that That most Muslims are not unlike yourself - they have families, have jobs and are trying to make it in a rough world same as you, and they have their faith - just as you do to help cope. and would rather live in peace, just as you would (I hope.)
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hey the only good muslim is a dead one screw them and all there bleeding heart supporters.
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Originally Posted by curt mini14 View Post
hey the only good muslim is a dead one screw them and all there bleeding heart supporters.

My heart does not bleed for, nor do I support Islam (or any other faith for that matter) in fact, all I really want is to be left alone - and let others do what they want as long as it doesn't cause me any grief or deprive me of any of my own freedoms.

your Ignorant comment is precisely why I Find it necessary to own guns...

do you not realize... People like me are more concerned with ignorant people who hate for the sake of hating someone right here at home?
how easy would it be for you to decide to turn on me? even though I live by the golden rule: do unto others as you would have them do unto you - and I'm a born and raised American citizen who is descended from men who had to shed blood to protect this country? Me - who would join up and fight at a moment's notice if our country was really in danger?

I don't tust people like you, Curt mini14 - you scare the crap out of me,
because if you can hate a people you've never really met or gotten to know half a world away - and state that they should be wiped out based on your minimal knowledge. whats to say you wouldn't do the same with Red blooded Americans in your own community who don't share your extremist views?

Think for a minute: someplace in Iran or Iraq in a cave or bunker is another small minded individual JUST LIKE YOU, saying something like "we should kill all the Christians and Jews -and all the people who support them" This fool hasn't even met a Christan or Jew in the flesh - he only knows what his government tells him and Al jezzera TV/radio says about the matter.

Meanwhile there is a goat herder down the road in the same town in that country who is JUST LIKE ME, that just wants to live, feed his family and and get by. he has no beef with anyone... just like me. and he's ****ed because idiots like the guy in the cave down the road and you - are making trouble and causing wars.

YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM... NOT THE SOLUTION - DON'T YOU SEE THAT?
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Originally Posted by Mr. Snuffalupagus View Post
My heart does not bleed for, nor do I support Islam (or any other faith for that matter) in fact, all I really want is to be left alone - and let others do what they want as long as it doesn't cause me any grief or deprive me of any of my own freedoms.

your Ignorant comment is precisely why I Find it necessary to own guns...

do you not realize... People like me are more concerned with ignorant people who hate for the sake of hating someone right here at home?
how easy would it be for you to decide to turn on me? even though I live by the golden rule: do unto others as you would have them do unto you - and I'm a born and raised American citizen who is descended from men who had to shed blood to protect this country? Me - who would join up and fight at a moment's notice if our country was really in danger?

I don't tust people like you, Curt mini14 - you scare the crap out of me,
because if you can hate a people you've never really met or gotten to know half a world away - and state that they should be wiped out based on your minimal knowledge. whats to say you wouldn't do the same with Red blooded Americans in your own community who don't share your extremist views?

Think for a minute: someplace in Iran or Iraq in a cave or bunker is another small minded individual JUST LIKE YOU, saying something like "we should kill all the Christians and Jews -and all the people who support them" This fool hasn't even met a Christan or Jew in the flesh - he only knows what his government tells him and Al jezzera TV/radio says about the matter.

Meanwhile there is a goat herder down the road in the same town in that country who is JUST LIKE ME, that just wants to live, feed his family and and get by. he has no beef with anyone... just like me. and he's ****ed because idiots like the guy in the cave down the road and you - are making trouble and causing wars.

YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM... NOT THE SOLUTION - DON'T YOU SEE THAT?
I dont wish the muslims any ill will but I dont give 2 ****es about them. I havent seen any christians strapping bombs to their kids and sending them to the bus stop or recruiting center. I dont care if you like religion or not. You and the muslims dont matter to me. I could care less about either one of you.
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Originally Posted by qwman68 View Post
I dont wish the muslims any ill will but I dont give 2 ****es about them. I havent seen any christians strapping bombs to their kids and sending them to the bus stop or recruiting center. I dont care if you like religion or not. You and the muslims dont matter to me. I could care less about either one of you.

Nothing wrong with that.


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hey snuff cry all you want and when you loose someone you love due to the muslims and there ****ty religion then tell me all about it.its sympithizers and collabaraters like you who scare me.just look how they fight they hit and run like little girls may they all suck pig dicks in hell.and just for your own info there is not any one more american red blooded than me.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Snuffalupagus View Post
Nothing wrong with that.


trust me, the feeling is mutal
Good. Glad you understand how I feel about pukes like you and you muslim brothers.
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hey the only good muslim is a dead one screw them and all there bleeding heart supporters.

Let me buy you a beer or three . . . .
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Haven't seen any Christians hijacking airplanes and flying into the World Trade Centers.Just sayin'
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Originally Posted by buddy06 View Post
Haven't seen any Christians hijacking airplanes and flying into the World Trade Centers.Just sayin'

The criminals the committed those crimes should be hunted down and destroyed - but it wasn't All Muslims that did that. If you can find the ringleaders and support personnel that enabled those attacks - please, bring them to me... I'll shoot them myself.

I'm simply trying to convey that broadband genocide is not the answer to the Islamic terrorist problem.

You don't see Christians doing this kind of stuff because by and large, most large groups of Christians live in societies where freedom exists and rule of law is just. Where people can speak their minds and actually stand up for themselves without having to worry about their non secular military dictators
coming into their homes in the middle of the night and making them disappear because they have the balls to protest the atrocities and injustices done in the name of their faith and people by utter madmen who tell lies to their own people about what the US's intentions are so that they can have an army of zealots willing to do anything they are told to do. The common man over there is told by their leadership that we want to convert them all to Christianity and take away their religion. this is a complete and utter fabrication - we want no such thing, but the common man doesn't know that he only knows what he his told because there is no freedom to discover the truth on your own over there. Let me ask the most devoutly religious of you this: If a foreign power with greater arms and equipment moved into your community and your leaders told you that they intend to destroy your religion and supplant it with their own - would you not fight to preserve your way of life? to the best of your ability? even if it meant fighting dirty?

bet you money you would... but what if your leaders were lying to you? like theirs are...

you see -
if some Nut were to rise to power in OUR country and advocate a war of terror on another country, with suicide bombing, and the whole nine yards - and start oppressing our own people - WE THE PEOPLE (that is - you, me and the rest of us) would rise up and kick the guys sorry butt. because that's how America was created - and thats how we do things. Hell, in this country we can't even have a War and hit legitimate targets without some peacenik freaking out and protesting... but bless his misguided heart - it's his right to protest it. which is why I'm proud to be an American.

The freedoms you and I enjoy as set down by the BOR and constitution - are an utterly alien concept to that part of the world. the common people over there just don't get the idea that If they revolt and rise up to stop what the people in power are doing, that they too can live life without terrorism and constant war.
they have been oppressed and brainwashed for so long by their own religious and political leaders that they can't do it on their own.

you can pity the common man over there - but why hate him?
It's their corrupt political and spiritual leaders that need to brought down.

I think you have my feelings about the matter wrong -

I have zero love or tolerance for those that commit or advocate heinous acts
in the name of any religion, or political creed - nor do I like seeing a people oppressed by their own government.
It's the leadership - and It always is. I have no hate for the common man over there, to do so is petty and only perpetuates the problem.

just as I have no hate for the British, German, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, Italian, Panamanian, Cuban, Somalian, Chinese or Russian PEOPLE, all of whom were at one time or the other enemies of our country. However I do detest some of the leaders and policies of those countries - some past and some present.

but the common everyday guy on the street? the one you advocate killing just cause he lives there and prays to the SAME god you do, just a little bit differently? I have no beef with him.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Snuffalupagus View Post
The criminals the committed those crimes should be hunted down and destroyed - but it wasn't All Muslims that did that. If you can find the ringleaders and support personnel that enabled those attacks - please, bring them to me... I'll shoot them myself.

I'm simply trying to convey that broadband genocide is not the answer to the Islamic terrorist problem.

You don't see Christians doing this kind of stuff because by and large, most large groups of Christians live in societies where freedom exists and rule of law is just. Where people can speak their minds and actually stand up for themselves without having to worry about their non secular military dictators
coming into their homes in the middle of the night and making them disappear because they have the balls to protest the atrocities and injustices done in the name of their faith and people by utter madmen who tell lies to their own people about what the US's intentions are so that they can have an army of zealots willing to do anything they are told to do. The common man over there is told by their leadership that we want to convert them all to Christianity and take away their religion. this is a complete and utter fabrication - we want no such thing, but the common man doesn't know that he only knows what he his told because there is no freedom to discover the truth on your own over there. Let me ask the most devoutly religious of you this: If a foreign power with greater arms and equipment moved into your community and your leaders told you that they intend to destroy your religion and supplant it with their own - would you not fight to preserve your way of life? to the best of your ability? even if it meant fighting dirty?

bet you money you would... but what if your leaders were lying to you? like theirs are...

you see -
if some Nut were to rise to power in OUR country and advocate a war of terror on another country, with suicide bombing, and the whole nine yards - and start oppressing our own people - WE THE PEOPLE (that is - you, me and the rest of us) would rise up and kick the guys sorry butt. because that's how America was created - and thats how we do things. Hell, in this country we can't even have a War and hit legitimate targets without some peacenik freaking out and protesting... but bless his misguided heart - it's his right to protest it. which is why I'm proud to be an American.

The freedoms you and I enjoy as set down by the BOR and constitution - are an utterly alien concept to that part of the world. the common people over there just don't get the idea that If they revolt and rise up to stop what the people in power are doing, that they too can live life without terrorism and constant war.
they have been oppressed and brainwashed for so long by their own religious and political leaders that they can't do it on their own.

you can pity the common man over there - but why hate him?
It's their corrupt political and spiritual leaders that need to brought down.

I think you have my feelings about the matter wrong -

I have zero love or tolerance for those that commit or advocate heinous acts
in the name of any religion, or political creed - nor do I like seeing a people oppressed by their own government.
It's the leadership - and It always is. I have no hate for the common man over there, to do so is petty and only perpetuates the problem.

just as I have no hate for the British, German, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, Italian, Panamanian, Cuban, Somalian, Chinese or Russian PEOPLE, all of whom were at one time or the other enemies of our country. However I do detest some of the leaders and policies of those countries - some past and some present.

but the common everyday guy on the street? the one you advocate killing just cause he lives there and prays to the SAME god you do, just a little bit differently? I have no beef with him.
Snuffy, Im sorry but I dont agree that these people are not informed and are doing this against their freewill. Most of the muslim countries have the internet and access to news networks via satellite television. So I dont think Mr. Average muslim is sitting around and along comes the evil leader of said muslim and ask's him to strap a bomb to himself and his eldest son and go bomb an american convoy becouse if you dont the mean crusading american will make you convert to christianity or face death.
I will agree that they are somewhat oppressed and have limited freedoms, but we fought for our freedom through the years and if they dont have the balls to organize and change their situation then its not my problem.
They know we are a free people, im sure some even know how that came to be. I also think there are more of them that do the dispicable acts that they do and do it gladly and without being forced to becouse they believe that we are inferior and dont deserve to be alive.
So, to sum it up. I do feel sorry for some of the people but most know whats going on and choose to do the things they do. They, for the most part will get no sympathy from me.
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Qwman,

You seem to be the only guy in this thread who disagrees with me who is smart enough to get this, so here goes...

The radicals in the Islamic world do not speak for the rest of the Millions of Muslims that choose to live their lives in peace. Just as the Millions of other Christians in the world look at what the Catholics and Protestants in Ireland are doing to each other, shake their heads and get on with their lives in peace ... period.

one thing I don't think you quite understand - judging by your last post is this:

here in the US we can get all kinds of information, from all kind of sources. the web, TV, radio, news papers, what ever. - some of it has a leftist spin on it, some of it has a right wing spin on it, some of it is middle of the road.
we have the luxury of being able to gather that information and make an informed decision about the world around us. (although... I for one think there is an awful lot going on that we don't get to hear about)
What we have here is pretty unique in the world - here even the poor have Cable TV, a computer, and a family car. and even the ultra poor homeless can beg $.50 off someone and buy a newspaper that is fairly impartial and informative if they want.

it's not like that in other places.

The newspapers are controlled by the government, as are the radio stations.
they print only what they are told to, and broadcast only what they are allowed to. if you are a newsie and man up and try to get the real scoop out? you and your family get "disappeared."
TV from outside is blocked and censored, the Web is watered down and censored -it takes a very good hacker to get by these protocols - and at great risk. I have a few business contacts that have to go to china on occasion. Did you know that the PU is a blocked website over there? like it just doesn't exist. Wikipedia is also blocked in mainland china. I can only assume the same is so for other countries with despotic regimes. (Ie some of the ultra radical Islamic countries)
sure, with a satellite dish you can get raw feeds and watch them but we are talking about countries where A heard of sheep, a cup of strong Turkish coffee every morning, all the rice and lentals you can eat and maybe a beat up old 80's era FM radio to listen to at night constitute "getting by". and Having a shop in the souk and owning a 20 year old car that runs, and having a TV and DVD player that was made in the last 10 years. and perhaps owning a treasured laptop computer to do your books on - constitutes real success. the regular Joe still can't afford his own dish, or hack the web on his computer - he only knows what the government tells him. Some of these people are nuts to begin with... feed them the right garbage, Wind them up and they become Radical extremists willing to strap on a semtex vest and blow themselves up gloriously to fight "the rampaging infidel, bent on destroying Islam and wiping their butts with pages from the Koran"

just so the monsters at the top can keep most of the oil money in the country and hang onto the absolute power that they have taken by force from their own people.
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Well said. I agree completely.
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Old 06-18-2011, 09:14   #18
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Originally Posted by Mr. Snuffalupagus View Post
I've made the mistake of looking in the religion section of this board.
(which leads me to a separate and off (this) topic question that i'll ponder later - What does a board dedicated to the Bill of Rights need with a religion section?!)

Anyway - I've observed several disturbing posts in here that I just can't sit by and allow to stand without my $.02.
the people that really need to hear what I'm about to say probably won't actually understand - or care... and will continue to spew their hate mongering and rhetoric under the guise of Christian piety.

as to my personal religious beliefs - I'll just say that I neither confirm nor deny the existence of a higher power. - however -organized religion concerns me, doesn't matter which flavor you pick... they all are great in theory but once it's put in practice with real people? it all turns into a Charlie Foxtrot.

this being said I've seen a few comments regarding Islam, by a few so called Christians that are just SICK. We are Americans first, and whatever religion you are second, And America does NOT repeat, Does NOT Hate or dislike a people based on Race, Religion, Gender etc.

there have been some very evil Christians that have done terrible things in the name of god, and subverted His word to make faithful people accomplish their own nefarious goals. So it has been with Islam. Once you add human greed and lust for power to a Religious movement with faithful followers - you no longer have a Congregation of faithful... you have an army of zealots. A very very dangerous army willing to do anything to anyone because they actually believe they are doing something for the faith which they hold in such high regard. This is a fallacy of the most dangerous sort - it breeds hate, and war, and strife and death - nothing good can come of it.

How many of you have ever actually looked at a Koran or studied Islam from a non religious standpoint (ie: outside observer) ?
did you Know:

That the term Infidel actually applies only to Pagans and Atheists and Apostates?

That Islam actually recognizes faithful Christians and Jews as "people of the book" (perhaps a little flawed in their style of worship - but people of the "one true god" and worthy of tolerance nevertheless.)

The Islamic Koran and the Christan Bible and Hebrew Torah are so similar to each other in some respects that if you change the passages just a little bit, you would get the same lessons?

Before you blindly decide to hate a people or group - LEARN ALL YOU CAN about them and make an informed decision, instead of just doing what the next guy in the pew is doing.

I recommend that unless you truly understand what Islam is all about (not what YOUR church says about it, or what what ever political leader you follow says about it, or whatever idiot pundits you suckle your ideas from say about it) but actually learn what the religion is about. you'll see that the followers of Islam are not unlike you Christians in many respects.

there is an excellent group of articles on wikipedia to get you started. I recommend you start there and at least Know what you are talking about when you say something idiotic like:

"I hate those Muslims, we should kill them all"

(yes, I have actually seen a post by a forum member that stated this - not quite verbatim, but very very close)

Please endeavor to grow a brain, and actually use it for yourself.

thank you, That is all.
Good post...
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Old 06-18-2011, 10:06   #19
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You seem to be the only guy in this thread who disagrees with me who is smart enough to get this
Wow, high hopes in this comment I use to think that too.

As far as Christians acting in a dispicable ways, there are plenty who profess the faith yet ignore the tenents and do act dispicably, we just don't put two and two together.

Historically, Christianity in the first 300 years was not an accepted religion. The Christians of that era were known to be good citizens, to rise up early to meet for services then go about their work. This was in the face of terrible atrocities commited against them, they were still good citizens other than obeying the government in religious matters. This has been the way for a large majority of Christians, with the exception of western Christians in European and North America. Here many schismatic groups kill abortion doctors, bomb clinics, practice hate crimes, and even place laws in effect that go against what Christ and the apostles teach. They just don't visibly strap bombs around them, they are much more stealth in their hatred.
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Funny how some never practice what they preach...................
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What does a board dedicated to the Bill of Rights need with a religion section?!
The Bill of Rights:


Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
this being said I've seen a few comments regarding Islam, by a few so called Christians that are just SICK. We are Americans first, and whatever religion you are second, And America does NOT repeat, Does NOT Hate or dislike a people based on Race, Religion, Gender etc.
Again...
Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
As "Americans" we have the right speak freely, just as you have. How can you not understand any of this?
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Old 06-19-2011, 06:09   #22
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screw you the only good muslim is a dead one you dont like it dont read it this is america land of the free.
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Old 06-19-2011, 07:20   #23
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Regardless of race, creed or religion, everyone twists their beliefs to fit their current requirement. Hypocrisy at it's best. Great how an entire group is considered bed because of a handful of examples. All muslims bad 'cause the actions of some... Guess that makes all Catholics pedophiles, all white men racists, all blondes stupid, etc... Funny though how all those that supposedly follow the words in the Bible are the worst offenders. Judge ye not... Forgivness... Love thy neighbor... Yeah right, not in our society! It's all a joke, with everyone else being the punchline.
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oh that hurts is that the best you got.maybe you should read the koran if they are true muslims they belive they are the only race that should be the only race and we should be dead.sorry i dont feel like you. they are the most chicken **** people to walk the earth.they kill people just to kill why because there koran says so.learn to read and see all you muslims and muslim lovers can kiss my white a...
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Of course curt mini14 is entirely wrong but obviously there's no use trying to talk sense to him.

He's set his mind on hate and that's that.
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