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Old 07-30-2012, 21:49   #1
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My idea

I just got an idea.We need everybody to get "on-board with this for it to work.It seems that everytime that there is some heinous mass murder that involves firearms-then one or some of a handful of politicos jump up and want recognition for creating new laws or legislation for correcting these murder situations by depriving the rest of the poulation of their 2A rights.Now my proposition;Any politico that is from any state-that state has to be known for something that the public (US wide)purchases or uses.We just need to refuse to use their products,and tell that state we will only use their products when their politico is out of office!Fire the bass turd!We as consumers can apply certain pressures on these states and advertise why we have problems with their state supporting them!If you don't believe that this can happen;remember a few years back when a shooting /hunting sports writer named jim z....... told the american press that the ar-15 rifle and derivitives had no place in the sporting firearms group,and he went on to say he could'nt see why any hunter or sportsman would want one-etc,etc,.Needless to say he lost his job and his sponsors very shorly after the american shooting sportsmen gave their " feed back"to his sponsors and the magazines he would write for.
Lets do the same and go after schumer,bloomberg,feinstein,boxer,pelosi,and a dozen others who would take our 2A rights from us,only for their own political gain.
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The left does it all the time. How many times has Jesse Jackson called for a boycott of something? How about the Chick-fil-a fuss? Not to mention how many times they have gone after Rush's sponsors.
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Would never work because of lack of publicity. Even the Drach guy posting the news in every thread wouldn't be enough. I will start the cause, however by bumping every old post so he can start at the very beginning.
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Old 08-01-2012, 00:22   #4
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As long as the gun owners continue to fight among each other and don't support and encourage the shooting sports in their regions then nothing will happen. We chase phantoms and hurl slander yet refuse to actually police our own. Most anti-gun people are not evil, just poorly informed and we gun owners are not helping ourselves since we too often act the way that the anti's claim.
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Originally Posted by gossman View Post
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As long as the gun owners continue to fight among each other and don't support and encourage the shooting sports in their regions then nothing will happen. We chase phantoms and hurl slander yet refuse to actually police our own. Most anti-gun people are not evil, just poorly informed and we gun owners are not helping ourselves since we too often act the way that the anti's claim.
Well Goss-if we all believe this way then we are doomed,I believe that now many more gun owners are begining to realize the sad state of affairs that they have let themselves live in when it comes to this "regime" and their 2A rights.The time of their laconic ways is about to end!
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Originally Posted by magnomark View Post
Well Goss-if we all believe this way then we are doomed,I believe that now many more gun owners are begining to realize the sad state of affairs that they have let themselves live in when it comes to this "regime" and their 2A rights.The time of their laconic ways is about to end!
Mark, the problem is we let the wrong people speak for us. We need more statesmen and less Limbaughs, more of Tom Selleck and less of Ted Nugent. The people that we need to pull over to the pro-gun are the fence riders, and if we act ugly then it will get us nowhere. Encourage free firearms training, good introductory classes to home firearms safety, show them that not every gun owner looks like a mall ninja wearing 5.11 gear. We need to be more proactive and do a better job of policing our own. Zumbo is a great example. He was no friend of gun owners other than those who just hunted. His ignorance cost him his credibility and livelihood. I do wish that we could have been more forgiving when he tried to make amends ( made him do some PSA 's on firearms and how they are used in shooting sports perhaps). The shouters are not the ones who will win them over, it will be those who can demonstrate their passion for the shooting sports while containing their zealotry.
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Originally Posted by gossman View Post
Mark, the problem is we let the wrong people speak for us. We need more statesmen and less Limbaughs, more of Tom Selleck and less of Ted Nugent. The people that we need to pull over to the pro-gun are the fence riders, and if we act ugly then it will get us nowhere. Encourage free firearms training, good introductory classes to home firearms safety, show them that not every gun owner looks like a mall ninja wearing 5.11 gear. We need to be more proactive and do a better job of policing our own. Zumbo is a great example. He was no friend of gun owners other than those who just hunted. His ignorance cost him his credibility and livelihood. I do wish that we could have been more forgiving when he tried to make amends ( made him do some PSA 's on firearms and how they are used in shooting sports perhaps). The shouters are not the ones who will win them over, it will be those who can demonstrate their passion for the shooting sports while containing their zealotry.
Yet you post like a deranged blowhard yourself, screeching about how you think everyone else is, too bad your so convinced you can bs others that you actually think nobody can see through you.
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Originally Posted by gossman View Post
Mark, the problem is we let the wrong people speak for us. We need more statesmen and less Limbaughs, more of Tom Selleck and less of Ted Nugent. The people that we need to pull over to the pro-gun are the fence riders, and if we act ugly then it will get us nowhere. Encourage free firearms training, good introductory classes to home firearms safety, show them that not every gun owner looks like a mall ninja wearing 5.11 gear. We need to be more proactive and do a better job of policing our own. Zumbo is a great example. He was no friend of gun owners other than those who just hunted. His ignorance cost him his credibility and livelihood. I do wish that we could have been more forgiving when he tried to make amends ( made him do some PSA 's on firearms and how they are used in shooting sports perhaps). The shouters are not the ones who will win them over, it will be those who can demonstrate their passion for the shooting sports while containing their zealotry.
So leftist, thank god your not a mod, anymore, people are free to live and speak as they please. Not be POLICED.

And you hate that.
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Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
So leftist, thank god your not a mod, anymore, people are free to live and speak as they please. Not be POLICED.

And you hate that.
In your world not all are free to speak. Only the bullies. You hate me because I allowed everyone to speak. You care nothing for freedom or truth.
Mark and I agree on many things and often disagree on plenty yet we can be respectful of each other.
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Yah but you don't respect me calling me turd and kinds ****. Just remember who drew first blood !
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As far as anti-gun people. I hate em and will help fight them, but I am like an angry dog their are only certain times you wanna let me out of the car ! Sorry you all hate me, but its guys like me that defended your freedoms when no one else would step up and sign the papers !
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Originally Posted by Drache Teufel View Post
Yah but you don't respect me calling me turd and kinds ****. Just remember who drew first blood !
Your disdain for civil discussion has ruled out any ability to discuss, much like DH. Bill Plein had it nailed when he owned the site. Plus he drew a better quality of humanity and had a greater active membership. You and DH are anarchists, nothing more.
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So now you have an excuse to not speak to me politely because you believe I do not desearve it. Now you fit into that "wife beater" profile your ignorant buddy likes to fit me into. How do you feel ? Talk your way out of it ! Labeling us anarchist now ? Carefull your breaking more of your precious rules ! So many you have broken yet you say my opinions are when I make no personal attacks. Make sure you read everything, everywhere Kevin, if you are reading this. Before you decide who to kick...
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gooseman has been banned before and he was fired for poor moderation, gooseman was censoring threads that made him cry.

Say gooseman, start your own gun forum, and show all of us how its done, espeacially your version of "free" speech.
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Good thing for you that lying's not a bannable offense, Imposter. Otherwise you couldn't post here at all.
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Good thing for you that lying's not a bannable offense, Imposter. Otherwise you couldn't post here at all.
Right. Like you would be any more safe than DH. Just because you believe the way you do doesnt make you right and everybody else wrong freeloader.
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Their atleast 5 people that been banned before and have returned. Hell I suck with comps so had my brother do some magic and showed me who is who on a few people. Side note: I don't care if I get banned again, its so easy to get back in. Even if I do it will be for no reason because I got the rules right beside me and am doing the best to follow them, I have made some mistakes and let my self get away, but no where near some that cry rule this and rule that ! One thread their all about rules and next they break them unknowingly (I think). I am trying to follow them like a damn lawyer. Come on lets do it smarties !
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Originally Posted by qwman68 View Post
Just because you believe the way you do doesnt make you right and everybody else wrong freeloader.
Doesn't make me wrong either, qman.
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On the other hand, Imposter's lies are demonstrably false.
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Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
gooseman has been banned before and he was fired for poor moderation, gooseman was censoring threads that made him cry.

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Show where they "fired" me. I censored according to the rules of the forum which you disdained because you lack decency. I was banned for commenting on how far down PU had gone since the "anything goes" attitude came into being, along with at least 6 other members. I did leave with intentions on not returning to the sewer but found out just how much more enjoyable it is to come back once in a while to poke the bear and bring a little perspective to the shouting and disinformation being spread by a few.
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I do not hate DH ( or anyone else, come to my home and I will feed you and show hospitality anytime) but do find his half truths, lies, and misinformation despicable, I still hold out that you may mend your ways.

Not everyone hated the job I did. It's a difficult job when the owner doesn't even care or even acknowledge PMs (PM him and see just how much he answers)
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Speaking of whining, here is your charge to toss me (didn't work)
I sent Kevin a PM
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Their is another that admits he likes the arguments.
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Show where they "fired" me. I censored according to the rules of the forum which you disdained because you lack decency. I was banned for commenting on how far down PU had gone since the "anything goes" attitude came into being, along with at least 6 other members. I did leave with intentions on not returning to the sewer but found out just how much more enjoyable it is to come back once in a while to poke the bear and bring a little perspective to the shouting and disinformation being spread by a few.
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I do not hate DH ( or anyone else, come to my home and I will feed you and show hospitality anytime) but do find his half truths, lies, and misinformation despicable, I still hold out that you may mend your ways.

Not everyone hated the job I did. It's a difficult job when the owner doesn't even care or even acknowledge PMs (PM him and see just how much he answers)
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Speaking of whining, here is your charge to toss me (didn't work)
I sent Kevin a PM
Gross man your problem is your a sniveling douchbag liberal/progressive apparently with some issues of some sort. Other than that I bet your pretty much an ass.
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Higgite was right.
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Thats weird ! Higgie use to like goss ??!!??
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Gross man your problem is your a sniveling douchbag liberal/progressive apparently with some issues of some sort. Other than that I bet your pretty much an ass.
Wow, tell me more.
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