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Old 03-28-2012, 14:49   #26
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Burn Detroit down, but only if we can keep Shabazz and his buddies in there while it goes up in flames.

I see that result as a good thing for everyone.

Start fresh in Detroit, and sweep out the garbage in the same move.
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Originally Posted by Adjuster View Post
Burn Detroit down, but only if we can keep Shabazz and his buddies in there while it goes up in flames.

I see that result as a good thing for everyone.

Start fresh in Detroit, and sweep out the garbage in the same move.
From what Ive seen in my lifetime they like to burn down their own towns and communities. Shabazz brings nothing good to the table. He does nothing to help his people,city or community. He is like a cancer.
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It's like this, give us everything for free or else we'll have a fit and ruin everything for everyone.
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Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
It's like this, give us everything for free or else we'll have a fit and ruin everything for everyone.
Funny, that's exactly what the crony capitalists and their congressional Republican lackeys say.
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Originally Posted by freesw View Post
Funny, that's exactly what the crony capitalists and their congressional Republican lackeys say.
You fail again.

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That's nothing.

The criminals on Wall Street extorted hundreds of billions of dollars with their threat to melt down the global economy in 2008.

And congressional Republicans won't lift a finger to prevent a repeat.
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Originally Posted by freesw View Post
That's nothing.

The criminals on Wall Street extorted hundreds of billions on their threat to melt down the global economy in 2008.
No subject changing.

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Freesw is one of the better posters on here. Him and Adjuster don't see eye to eye on most things but they both attempt to bring facts into their arguments, or discussions. Then you have guys like Dirty Harry.
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Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
No subject changing.
Why not, you do it all the time.

One thread about the NBP should be enough. There are what now, five?

The propagandists at Fox and their zombified viewers sure do love them some NBP. Can't get enough NBP, no suh.
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Originally Posted by freesw View Post
Why not, you do it all the time.

One thread about the NBP should be enough. There are what now, five?

The propagandists at Fox and their zombified viewers sure do love them some NBP. Can't get enough NBP, no suh.
Because it is distributive for others, and it shows you have a weak argument, which you do.
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Originally Posted by freesw View Post
That's nothing.

The criminals on Wall Street extorted hundreds of billions of dollars with their threat to melt down the global economy in 2008.

And congressional Republicans won't lift a finger to prevent a repeat.
What does that have to do with Shabazz threating to burn down Detroit?

Start another post if you have a problem with wall street criminals.

Lookie freeswloader, you have a fan club.
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You don't have an argument at all Imposter. So the tiny hate group the FNC audience loves to hate is grandstanding again, so what? It means nothing. The NBP don't have a constituency in Detroit or anywhere else outside of FNC.

I wouldn't be surprised if FNC was their primary revenue source. The Murdoch syndicate's done far worse in Britain and Australia.

Here's the latest.
A secret unit within Rupert Murdoch’s News Corporation promoted a wave of high-tech piracy in Australia that damaged Austar, Optus and Foxtel at a time when News was moving to take control of the Australian pay TV industry.

The piracy cost the Australian pay TV companies up to $50 million a year and helped cripple the finances of Austar, which Foxtel is now in the process of acquiring.

A four-year investigation by The Australian Financial Review has revealed a global trail of corporate dirty tricks directed against competitors by a secretive group of former policemen and intelligence officers within News Corp known as Operational Security.
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Pay TV piracy hits News

NewsCorp looks more like a criminal racketeering enterprise every day.
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Originally Posted by freesw View Post
You don't have an argument at all Imposter. So the tiny hate group the FNC audience loves to hate is grandstanding again, so what? It means nothing. The NBP don't have a constituency in Detroit or anywhere else outside of FNC.
They put a bounty on a mans head. That is a little more than nothing. Good Lord freeswloader do you read your own posts?
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Originally Posted by freesw View Post
You don't have an argument at all Imposter. So the tiny hate group the FNC audience loves to hate is grandstanding again, so what? It means nothing. The NBP don't have a constituency in Detroit or anywhere else outside of FNC.
Then why are you in such tizzy ?
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Let me start out by saying that I'm a white guy. The Black Panthers have done much to help their communities. Free breakfast programs, after school programs, legal assistance, survival training..Since 1865 the blacks had not been slaves but they weren't free. They were expected to take whatever was given to them and turn the other cheek. Martin Luther King Jr was a huge proponent of that philosophy up until the last few months of his life when he realized his movement was going to need to fight back because the high road wasn't working. He got assassinated and the Panther movement took off. Put yourself in their shoes. I'm pretty sure everyone of you would get militant if you endured what they did to no avail. To say the Black Panthers are a bunch of idiots acting like children is cowardly. All they wanted was a level playing field and the same rights whites had. They were dying in Viet Nam for those rights. I respect any group that fights against an oppressor denying their constitutional rights. You should too, Whitey.
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They put a bounty on a mans head. That is a little more than nothing. Good Lord freeswloader do you read your own posts?
Because he believes his craziness.
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Let me start out by saying that I'm a white guy. The Black Panthers have done much to help their communities. Free breakfast programs, after school programs, legal assistance, survival training..Since 1865 the blacks had not been slaves but they weren't free. They were expected to take whatever was given to them and turn the other cheek. Martin Luther King Jr was a huge proponent of that philosophy up until the last few months of his life when he realized his movement was going to need to fight back because the high road wasn't working. He got assassinated and the Panther movement took off. Put yourself in their shoes. I'm pretty sure everyone of you would get militant if you endured what they did to no avail. To say the Black Panthers are a bunch of idiots acting like children is cowardly. All they wanted was a level playing field and the same rights whites had. They were dying in Viet Nam for those rights. I respect any group that fights against an oppressor denying their constitutional rights. You should too, Whitey.
Seek help.
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Originally Posted by freesw View Post
You don't have an argument at all Imposter. So the tiny hate group the FNC audience loves to hate is grandstanding again, so what? It means nothing. The NBP don't have a constituency in Detroit or anywhere else outside of FNC.

I wouldn't be surprised if FNC was their primary revenue source. The Murdoch syndicate's done far worse in Britain and Australia.

Here's the latest.

Pay TV piracy hits News

NewsCorp looks more like a criminal racketeering enterprise every day.
CNN and every other liberal "news" outlet has been pushing the issue, that's a fact.
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Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
Seek help.
Seek an education.
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Originally Posted by Boone View Post
Let me start out by saying that I'm a white guy. The Black Panthers have done much to help their communities. Free breakfast programs, after school programs, legal assistance, survival training..Since 1865 the blacks had not been slaves but they weren't free. They were expected to take whatever was given to them and turn the other cheek. Martin Luther King Jr was a huge proponent of that philosophy up until the last few months of his life when he realized his movement was going to need to fight back because the high road wasn't working. He got assassinated and the Panther movement took off. Put yourself in their shoes. I'm pretty sure everyone of you would get militant if you endured what they did to no avail. To say the Black Panthers are a bunch of idiots acting like children is cowardly. All they wanted was a level playing field and the same rights whites had. They were dying in Viet Nam for those rights. I respect any group that fights against an oppressor denying their constitutional rights. You should too, Whitey.
Show me where they have helped people. Show me proof. They need to get off their lazy asses and work to get somewhere in life. Nothing was ever given to me. They arent acting like children they are acting like criminals.
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Originally Posted by qwman68 View Post
Show me where they have helped people. Show me proof. They need to get off their lazy asses and work to get somewhere in life. Nothing was ever given to me. They arent acting like children they are acting like criminals.
Here's how they help their communities Q

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"To view the BPP as a purely revolutionary and violent movement is wrong. In areas of support the BPP created a Free Food Program to feed those who could not afford to do so for themselves; Free Medical Research Health Clinics to provide basic health care for those who could not afford it and an Intercommunal Youth Band to give community pride to the movement. In a book of his essays called "To Die for the People", Huey Newton wrote that these were exactly what the African-American community wanted and that the BPP was providing its own people with something the government was not. Such community projects have survived in other guises, but after the demise of the BPP their lost their drive for a number of years."- The Black Panthers

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Setting the record straight

Black Panthers and "New Black Panthers" are not the same. At all.
There Is No New Black Panther Party: An Open Letter From the Dr. Huey P. Newton Foundation

In response from numerous requests from individual's seeking information on the "New Black Panthers," the Dr. Huey P. Newton Foundation issues this public statement to correct the distorted record being made in the media by a small band of African Americans calling themselves the New Black Panthers. As guardian of the true history of the Black Panther Party, the Foundation, which includes former leading members of the Party, denounces this group's exploitation of the Party's name and history. Failing to find its own legitimacy in the black community, this band would graft the Party's name upon itself, which we condemn.

Firstly, the people in the New Black Panthers were never members of the Black Panther Party and have no legitimate claim on the Party's name. On the contrary, they would steal the names and pretend to walk in the footsteps of the Party's true heroes, such as Black Panther founder Huey P. Newton, George Jackson and Jonathan Jackson, Bunchy Carter, John Huggins, Fred Hampton, Mark Cark, and so many others who gave their very lives to the black liberation struggle under the Party's banner.
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Furthermore, this group claims it would "teach" the black community about armed self-defense. The arrogance of this claim is overwhelmed by its reactionary nature. Blacks, especially in the South, have been armed in self-defense for a very long time; indeed, the spiritual parent of the Party itself was the Louisiana-based Deacons for Defense. However, the Party understood that the gun was not necessarily revolutionary, for the police and all other oppressive forces had guns. It was the ideology behind the gun that determined its nature.
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The question the Foundation raises, then, is who are these people laying claim to the Party's history and name? Are they reactionary provocateurs, who would instigate activities counterproductive to the people's interests, causing mayhem and death? Are they entertainers, who would posture themselves before the media, and, according to numerous sources, with empty guns, to spin gold for themselves? Are they, given the history of their late-leader Khalid Muhammad, a group of anti-Semites like the very Ku Klux Klan they allegedly oppose? What is their agenda?

Conditions for blacks in America today are worse than when the Black Panther Party was formed in 1966. Blacks in the main continue to live in poverty; disproportionate percentages of blacks die from AIDS and cancer, as the black infant mortality rate continues to be double that of whites. There is a desperate need for liberation agenda. The Black Panther Party unarguably set the example, espousing principles and a history that certainly should be embraced by all those still struggling for freedom. Rather than appropriating the Party's name, however, groups that purport to represent African Americans ought to follow the Party's true historical example. In the absence of such commitment, the Foundation denounces the usurpation of the Black Panther Party name by this questionable band of self-appointed leaders.

For further reading on the Black Panther Party, please visit our website at BlackPanther.org. ...
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Here is what the real Black Panthers did to help their own community.
Black Panther Party Community Programs
1966 - 1982

1. Alameda County Volunteer Bureau Work Site

2. Benefit Counseling

3. Black Student Alliance

4. Child Development Center

5. Consumer Education Classes

6. Community Facility Use

7. Community Health Classes

8. East Oakland CIL (Center for Independent Living) Branch

9. Community Pantry (Free Food Program)

10. Drug/Alcohol Abuse Awareness Program

11. Drama Classes

12. Disabled Persons Services/Transportation and Attendant

13. Drill Team

14. Employment Referral Service

15. Free Ambulance Program

16. Free Breakfast for Children Programs

17. Free Busing to Prisons Program

18. Free Clothing Program

19. Free Commissary for Prisoners Program

20. Free Dental Program

21. Free Employment Program

22. Free Food Program

23. Free Film Series

24. Free Furniture Program

25. Free Health Clinics

26. Free Housing Cooperative Program

27. Food Cooperative Program

28. Free Optometry Program

29. Community Forum

30. Free Pest Control Program

31. Free Plumbing and Maintenance Program

32. Free Shoe Program

33. GED Classes

34. Geriatric Health Center

35. GYN Clinic

36. Home SAFE Visits

37. Intercommunal Youth Institute (becomes OCS by 1975)

38. Junior and High School Tutorial Program

39. Legal Aid and Education

40. Legal Clinic/Workshops

41. Laney Experimental College Extension Site

42. Legal Referral Service(s)

43. Liberation Schools

44. Martial Arts Program

45. Nutrition Classes

46. Oakland Community Learning Center

47. Outreach Preventative Care

48. Program Development

49. Pediatric Clinic

50. police patrols

51. Seniors Against a Fearful Environment

52. SAFE Club

53. Sickle Cell Anemia Research Foundation

54. Son of Man Temple (becomes Community Forum by 1976)

55. Sports

56. Senior Switchboard

57. The Black Panther Newspaper

58. Teen Council

59. Teen Program

60. U.C. Berkeley Students Health Program

61. V.D. Preventative Screening & Counseling

62. Visiting Nurses Program

63. WIC (Women Infants, and Children) Program

64. Youth Diversion and Probation Site

65. Youth Training and Development
Black Panther Community Programs

The so-called "New Black Panthers" only serve the extremist right wing racist agenda. That's why FNC promotes them so heavily.
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To view the BPP as a purely revolutionary and violent movement is wrong. In areas of support the BPP created a Free Food Program to feed those who could not afford to do so for themselves; Free Medical Research Health Clinics to provide basic health care for those who could not afford it and an Intercommunal Youth Band to give community pride to the movement. In a book of his essays called "To Die for the People", Huey Newton wrote that these were exactly what the African-American community wanted and that the BPP was providing its own people with something the government was not. Such community projects have survived in other guises, but after the demise of the BPP their lost their drive for a number of years. The Black Panthers
This is just a silly page full of propaganda, the man asked for proof, now get us proof!
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To view the BPP as a purely revolutionary and violent movement is wrong. In areas of support the BPP created a Free Food Program to feed those who could not afford to do so for themselves; Free Medical Research Health Clinics to provide basic health care for those who could not afford it and an Intercommunal Youth Band to give community pride to the movement. In a book of his essays called "To Die for the People", Huey Newton wrote that these were exactly what the African-American community wanted and that the BPP was providing its own people with something the government was not. Such community projects have survived in other guises, but after the demise of the BPP their lost their drive for a number of years. The Black Panthers
So how does putting a bounty on a innocent until proven guilty mans head, stirring up hate, and getting caught with a weapon when your a convicted felon gonna do to help other black people. What has the things they have done helped their community other than feed a few hungry people. It still doesnt take away from all the racist things they have done over the years. How did they get the money for these programs? Is the government giving money to a known hate group?
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