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Old 07-13-2011, 15:38   #1
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Obama Thinks Your Tax Dollars Are His 'Money Tree'

Former House Majority Leader Dick Armey says House Speaker John Boehner and other Republicans will not cave to President Barack Obama’s demands for tax increases to help reduce the deficit.

In an exclusive Newsmax.TV interview, Armey also said Tuesday that Obama has not put everything on the table as he has claimed — and he doesn’t even have everybody at the table during discussions on raising the debt ceiling.

“President Obama is into income redistribution,” Armey said. “I think he wants to raise taxes on wealthy people because he doesn’t think it’s fair that they are wealthy. John Boehner is correct: To raise taxes for any reason would be further repressive to the performance of the economy and would result in less revenue.
Dick Armey: Obama Thinks Your Tax Dollars Are His 'Money Tree'
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Dick Armey says that. Dick Armey, who heads up FreedomWorks.

Hey, there's Glenn Beck, right there on the front page. What a group.

By "Lower Taxes, Less Government, More Freedom," they mean, of course, keep tax rates for the super-rich at their present historical lows, in spite of the deficit.

They mean less limits on pollution and other unethical corporate practices. Exxon pollutes your land and lies about it? Tough. Glass-Steagal? Who needed it.

They mean more freedom for corporate "persons" and those who own them. More "freedom" for corporations, in fact, than should be accorded real persons. Why? Because corporations have more money, and, well, some "persons" are "more equal" before the law than others.

Yes, they're really "looking out for the folks," as Bill O'Reilly would say.
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Dick is right, but don't worry, American business is leaving the states to countries with people who like to work and enjoy higher standards of living.
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Old 07-13-2011, 16:32   #4
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Great.

Once the Chinese, who have no real freedom of speech, assembly or religion, have higher living standards than we do, maybe we can convince those companies to come back.

Not. Then they'll just move to the next poor country. Your solution is for us to settle for the same abysmal environmental and labor standards as those in the worst off country in the world. For the most oppressive political climate. All to make the super-rich even more rich, at our expense. All so they will have all the power, and we, none. That, is your so-called "solution."

In your malevolence, you ignore the alternatives, of which there are plenty.
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Dick is right, but don't worry, American business is leaving the states to countries with people who like to work and enjoy higher standards of living.
Your cynicism knows no bottom. Here is what those corporations you would have us yield all to have in store for the Chinese.

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"U.S. corporations have used their considerable power and influence there to weaken the labor laws that are being proposed," said Ellen David Friedman, a U.S. labor organizer who's worked with developing trade union groups in China. "They are in essence acknowledging that what they have liked about doing business in China is the very, very cheap labor and the low level of enforcement."

The Chinese government is drafting a new labor law, expected to be finalized in the next few weeks, in response to increasing worker unrest over low and unpaid wages and poor working conditions. Labor rights advocates say the new law will provide Chinese workers with minimal protections that are commonplace in developed countries, including enforceable contracts, the role of unions to negotiate on behalf of employees and severance payments.

When the Chinese government announced the new labor law last year, American corporate trade groups were quick to object to many of the law's provisions.

The American Chamber of Commerce in Shanghai known as AmCham said the law was "a step backwards" and laid out what it called "fundamental defects" in the law in a 42-page document submitted to the Chinese government. The group argued that current Chinese labor law was sufficient for protecting Chinese workers if the laws were properly enforced.
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U.S. Corporations Lobby Against New Protections for Chinese Workers - The Blotter

So, just as the coal lobby in Appalachia claims all that's needed for miner safety is to enforce existing law, the Chinese branch of the American Chamber of Commerce claims enforcing existing law all that's needed in China. As these laws are currently written, they can't be enforced.
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[House Labor Chairman] Miller outlined how the legislation could have helped prevent the deaths of 29 miners at Massey Energy’s Upper Big Branch Mine last April:

Current law on “patterns of violations” has so many loopholes that it invites delays and allows some coal mine operators to game the system.

Massey Energy’s Upper Big Branch mine was a perfect example of an operator repeatedly skirting the law and putting workers’ lives in the crosshairs.

The Upper Big Branch mine was subject to 515 violations and 54 withdrawal orders in 2009, more than any other mine in the country. Red flags were waving about this mine’s repeated unwarrantable failures.

And yet, because Massey indiscriminately appealed many of these violations, it evaded stronger sanctions that would have improved conditions and saved lives.

The bill sets clear and fair criteria to identify mines with significant safety problems and eliminate the incentives for mine owners that game the system.
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GOP kills effort to resurrect mine safety bill « Coal Tattoo

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Liu Cheng, a Shanghai legal scholar who advised the government on the draft proposal, says the pressure U.S. companies exert on their Chinese suppliers to cut costs leads to labor abuse. "After so many years of the multinationals dominating, things are getting worse," says Cheng.

Chinese workers have staged tens of thousands of strikes and protests over the past few years, expressing discontent over poor working conditions and low and unpaid wages. Cheng says that the new law is a modest step toward addressing rising worker unrest and ensuring social stability. "It's reasonable and rational for companies to want to make money, but there has to be balance," says Cheng. ...
That's not all.

According to the Chinese government 300 million of their citizens drink contaminated water on a daily basis, and of these, 190 million drink water which is so contaminated that it is making them sick. The United Nations’ latest Human Development Report found more than half of the country’s water resources have been severely polluted and 70% of the water that flows through China’s urban areas is unfit for drinking or fishing.

The impact on the average Chinese citizen has been devastating. According to Dr. Jennifer L. Turner, director of the China Environment Forum at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, scientists and environmental NGO’s have been tracking

"the disturbing trend of higher than normal rates of tumors, cancer, spontaneous abortions and diminished IQs among populations living near polluted rivers and lakes. Water pollution is also causing agricultural losses, sparking protests against industries by farmers who have lost the use of land and water and cannot sell their ‘toxic’ crops."

It’s no wonder the Chinese government recorded 50,000 environmental-related protests in 2005 alone, many of which were related to water pollution.


American corporations, which provide a large and growing part of China’s industrial expansion, have taken a strong public stand for a sound environment. Pepsi-Cola, for example, has globally proclaimed its "Sustainability Vision”:

“PepsiCo’s Sustainability Vision is simple in concept, but far-reaching in impact. Environmental stewardship is a core part of this vision. PepsiCo recognizes our responsibility to be a good steward of the environment, both as a corporate citizen and as a way to support the company’s goals…We will consider our potential environmental impacts in our daily business decision-making processes…We will encourage conservation of natural resources, recycling, source reduction and pollution control to ensure cleaner air and water and to reduce landfill wastes. We will share environmental best practices across the company.”

Unfortunately, it has recently been disclosed that American and other global corporations are some of the prime polluters in China. According to a recent report released by the Institute of Public and Environmental Affairs, a China-based NGO, companies such as Pepsi-Cola, Panasonic, and Nestle were among 33 "serious polluters" that the Chinese government “blacklisted” for water pollution.


The Institute gathered their findings by sifting through three years of official government records at both the local and national levels. They found, for example, that Panasonic Battery (Shanghai) Co. Ltd. was cited by the local environmental protection bureau in June 2006 and also 2005 for releasing inadequately treated wastewater. Pepsi-Cola International (Changchun) Co Ltd was criticized for a similar reason in 2005. Kao Chemical Corporation Shanghai, a joint-venture enterprise of American Standard Companies and Shanghai Pizza Hut, was also cited.

While foreign violators represented a fraction of the total 2,700 violators, these companies hold themselves up both in the US and around the world as beacons of environmental protection in the global economy. They are the leaders of corporate-led globalization and increasingly these companies are trying to promote their products with claims of social and environmental justice.

According to Institute director Ma Jun, an expert in water pollution issues who was featured in the 2006 edition of Time Magazine’s “100 Most Influential People”,

“Those multinational companies have violated the basic environmental laws and regulations of China. I was very surprised to see well-known names in global business listed as water polluters in China…The parent companies in their home countries are models for environmental protection. But they have slackened their efforts in China…The paradise that China is proving for foreign companies can’t last forever. We are dumping the pollution into our own backyard and people are suffering.”

Ma added,

“The list only reveals a fraction of the number of violations of environmental regulations by multinational companies in China, because it only covers companies causing water pollution. Those that have caused air and waste pollution were not included…[and] there may be more polluting companies that have not been made public by local environmental departments.”

Global corporations regularly relocate to China in order to take advantage of cheap labor and weak labor protections. Less publicized is their incessant search for lax environmental protections. China’s environmental standards are significantly lower than those of European countries and the United States, and many laws are intentionally not enforced. According to Ma:

"On one hand, these multinational companies fail to keep their universal environmental promises and on the other hand China is weak in its implementation of the environmental laws and regulations…These [global] companies require their Chinese partners to obey strictly environmental regulations. But they violate the regulations themselves."

It is disturbing that Pepsi, one of the four largest distributors of bottled water, would so pollute Chinese drinking water that the Chinese government would blacklist them. Viewed from the perspective of their actual behavior in China—i.e. what they do as opposed to what they say—PepsiCo’s stated “Sustainability Vision” becomes almost grotesque.
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Just as China is finally beginning to come to terms with the excesses of unregulated industry, right wingers like yourself are doing everything possible to remake America according to the same pollution and labor standards under which Chinese workers suffer and strive to overcome. As this Asia Times article describes, it is primarily American corporations driving down real standards of living. They set the prices. And notice, it's not the Europeans who are resisting labor reform in China; it is Americans doing it.

These multinational corporations exist to funnel control of the world's resources to the super-rich, concentrating their power until most of the world's population are reduced to impoverished industrial or agricultural serfs, or outright paupers. Believe it because they've already been doing it for a long time.
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Old 07-13-2011, 18:28   #6
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What does environmental activism/employment practices in other countries have to do with the kenyan using America as his personal money tree? And then terrorizing our citizens with our own money?
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These multinational corporations exist to funnel control of the world's resources to the super-rich, concentrating their power until most of the world's population are reduced to impoverished industrial or agricultural serfs, or outright paupers. Believe it because they've already been doing it for a long time.
What do you think the first Americans did? Sail over here on a dreamliner cruise ship and walk into air conditioned office buildings?

Any country and anybody has to start somewhere.
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Old 07-13-2011, 20:38   #8
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More anti corporate BS from free? Who didnt know that. Instead of whining and bitching why dont you get off your ass and do something about it? Oh, thats right because the only people that has a problem with it is you progressive/marxist retards. Nevermind then. There isnt enough of your type to get anything accomplished.
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Apparently the leftist strategy is to brow beat all corporations into leaving America, thus leaving us with no jobs (except in the service sector to cater to the rich elitists) and no income so that we HAVE to depend on the most benevolant government for our sustinance.

I don't know about you all, but this money tree has had just about all the fruit picked off of it!
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