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Old 05-30-2011, 22:20   #51
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You said maybe repairing relations with these countries is smarter and ultimately more cost effective than turning our backs on them. Then you say you want to us to distance ourselves from Israel. Israel is a country. Do you want to turn your back on them in favor of an american hating country? I think Israel does more for the Americans in the area of counter terrorism and intelligence than any other country in that reigon.

The only muslims I want to get rid of are the ones hell bent on America's destruction. Why wouldnt I want to kill someone who wants to kill me? Instead Obama gives them money we could use elsewhere.

I have a few hispanic friends so I dont hate hispanics. I have a problem with illegal hispanics. I think they should be sent home. If they want to come here then they should do it legally. Why is that wrong? This whole immigration thing is costing this country way to much money. Something needs to be done.

I think Israel has a right to exist. I think the jews have a right as human beings to exist. I think they have been persecuted enough and Im glad we support their right to live.
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Old 05-31-2011, 09:29   #52
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Get ready for 10 billion "Start Up" Seed money for The new UN mandated Palestine and boots on the Ground to keep jews out of East Jerusalem ,and Nation Building money for the Gaza -West Bank Freeway ...
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Originally Posted by qwman68 View Post
You said maybe repairing relations with these countries is smarter and ultimately more cost effective than turning our backs on them. Then you say you want to us to distance ourselves from Israel. Israel is a country. Do you want to turn your back on them in favor of an american hating country?

I have a few hispanic friends so I dont hate hispanics. I have a problem with illegal hispanics. I think they should be sent home. If they want to come here then they should do it legally. Why is that wrong? This whole immigration thing is costing this country way to much money. Something needs to be done.

I think Israel has a right to exist. I think the jews have a right as human beings to exist. I think they have been persecuted enough and Im glad we support their right to live.
First off I never said Jews don't have a right to exist (you put those words in my mouth) or even to the land they occupy. I only suggest for us (a nation of many religions) to stay away from a religious land quarrel that has nothing to do with us. That is bad policy, that leads to things like 9/11 and other terrorist attacks around europe and other nations in the UN. There is a reason we have adopted the concept separation of church and state for over 200 years. It has been revealed throughout history that decisions based on religion end in disaster. It is better to use logic, reason, and diplomacy especially when referring to foreign policy. Here is an excerpt from the Treaty of Tripoli;

As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries"
Second the immigration laws in this country are different from state to state and are a complete hypocrisy. In one hand we allow Puerto Ricans to come right in (criminal record and all) and take up welfare, section 8 housing, and even health insurance but at the same time turn good hard working hispanics away. My wife is Guatemalan and has a valid work visa and we are currently seeking her residency so I understand the system well. She has seen people who were criminals in Guatemala obtain visas to live and work here while getting a clean slate, and she also knows several educated friends (good people) that were turned down. Also as sad as it is illegal immigrants make up a large amount of our manual labor work force. So as nice as it would apparently be to get rid of them all, who will pick all of your vegetables, cook your food, etc? I know you don't want the price of those things to go up, right? So maybe having some illegals here isn't as bad as you think.
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Illegal immigration is a worse Problem for the United States than Terrorism .
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Well with any luck it will so undesirable to live here in the near future that most illegals will migrate back to their own countries. I don't deny the problem, and I assume that is worse down south and out west. My wife like many legal hispanics is against illegals (not only latinos) because they only make it harder for her here. She pays taxes and we both pay for our health care but at the same time we watch as our government gives it away to people seeking so called political asylum. It is frustrating because she contributes to our society while others milk the system. I only point out that many trade industries thrive and rely on cheap labor from illegals, and if they were to all be deported we could see a backlash.
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Well with any luck it will so undesirable to live here in the near future that most illegals will migrate back to their own countries. I don't deny the problem, and I assume that is worse down south and out west. My wife like many legal hispanics is against illegals (not only latinos) because they only make it harder for her here. She pays taxes and we both pay for our health care but at the same time we watch as our government gives it away to people seeking so called political asylum. It is frustrating because she contributes to our society while others milk the system. I only point out that many trade industries thrive and rely on cheap labor from illegals, and if they were to all be deported we could see a backlash.
California will become the First Official "Sanctuary State" then shortly after the first "Official " Bankrup state.
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