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Old 12-15-2011, 16:59   #1
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If you could get only 1 M1A which would you get?

Hi folks, well I think I have decided on an M1A. Now I can't decide which one.

I am looking at the Socom 16, the Scout Squad or a Loaded. All of them have attributes I want but I can't have them all.

With the Socom or Scout there is the forward rail. The Socom has a Tritium front sight that I like. But the Loaded has the better rear sight barrel and the tuned trigger.

So which did you choose and why?
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I chose a Standard Rack Grade M1A because I couldn't afford a Match Grade M1A and figured I could start there and build it up. If I could buy another M1A I would buy a Socom 16. I want a prepper gun and I think the synthetic stock is a better real world gun.
But you need to ask your self what do you want your M1A to do,
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Well I currently own an M4 and a Mini 14 tactical so my CQB rifle needs are taken care of. The more I think about it the more I am leaning towards the Loaded M1A. It will give me a longer range option with better punch. I just wish it had the forward rail as the others do.

I do like the idea of the Walnut stock just to be old school but a poly stock would probably be a better option and a bit lighter.
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Well, the forward rail is easy enough to refit onto whatever you choose. So I'd get the barrel length you want and put a rail onto it if it doesn't come with one. The Scout handguard used to be a USGI handguard with a window cut out to fit the mount. The mount would fit any barrel of the USGI contour. No big thing. But I don't think the SAI Scout mount is all that good.

I personally enjoy my USGI M14 clone built on a Fulton receiver. Had a Scout, sold it to finance the full-size clone. I'm not much into optics, though.
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The one I got, a mossy oak standard model.
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I've got the M1A that I want. It's an early Springfield Armory standard model. No "loaded," no "match grade," no shorty model, no scope. Only one opinion but I do like the better ballistics rendered from the standard length barrel and prefer to keep the muzzle blast farther away from me so don't want anything to do with any of the short-barreled versions. Compactness is over-rated in my view and wouldn't likely actually be as enjoyable to shoot over the long term.

This rifle is equipped with an SAK 1-69 barrel and is good for 1 1/2-inch 5-shot groups at 100 yards from a bench rest, 1 1/4-inch if I'm really in the shooting mood.

It's been a dependable rifle for high-power competition shooting at the local level and is great fun for long range plinking sessions from a canyon rim.

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Id go with the standard
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I went with the Springfield. LRB and others were not out at the time I purchased. Springfield has a lifetime warranty which helps.

Anyway, I got the loaded with the stainless barrel. Since, I've added the Smith Ent. mount, Nikon Monarch Gold 2.5 - 10 x 30mm scope sitting in Smith Ent. rings. I also had them do a match trigger job.

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Originally Posted by bmcgilvray View Post


I've got the M1A that I want. It's an early Springfield Armory standard model. No "loaded," no "match grade," no shorty model, no scope. Only one opinion but I do like the better ballistics rendered from the standard length barrel and prefer to keep the muzzle blast farther away from me so don't want anything to do with any of the short-barreled versions. Compactness is over-rated in my view and wouldn't likely actually be as enjoyable to shoot over the long term.

This rifle is equipped with an SAK 1-69 barrel and is good for 1 1/2-inch 5-shot groups at 100 yards from a bench rest, 1 1/4-inch if I'm really in the shooting mood.

It's been a dependable rifle for high-power competition shooting at the local level and is great fun for long range plinking sessions from a canyon rim.

Nice rifle you have there!
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Originally Posted by Mini-14 View Post
I went with the Springfield. LRB and others were not out at the time I purchased. Springfield has a lifetime warranty which helps.

Anyway, I got the loaded with the stainless barrel. Since, I've added the Smith Ent. mount, Nikon Monarch Gold 2.5 - 10 x 30mm scope sitting in Smith Ent. rings. I also had them do a match trigger job.

Sounds like a nice setup. Have you had any issues with it? The reason I ask is that over at the m14 forum many of those guys recommend staying away from newer Springfields. I cannot afford and LRB and the older Springfields with GI parts sure cost a premium as well.
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No issues at all. I have always been intrigued by the claims that Springfield quality was bad. Never have had any problems or have heard of anyone directly having any problems. Besides, the warranty would cover it anyway, so what's to lose?
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Originally Posted by sarge1967 View Post
Hi folks, well I think I have decided on an M1A. Now I can't decide which one.

I am looking at the Socom 16, the Scout Squad or a Loaded. All of them have attributes I want but I can't have them all.

With the Socom or Scout there is the forward rail. The Socom has a Tritium front sight that I like. But the Loaded has the better rear sight barrel and the tuned trigger.

So which did you choose and why?
My very first was a Scout Squad and I firmly believe the 18.0" barrel is the very best length length for general purpose shooting... I like mine with a GLFS and a DC Vortex from SEI.

If you prefer a traditional stock consider installing the M8 hand guard from UltiMAK and a low sitting Aimpoint or Scout scope.

I you want a pistol grip consider an EBR chassis from SAGE. BTW, you can have any M1A/M14 trigger tuned after buying the rifle.

My collection includes a 16.25", two 18.0" and two 22.0" configurations.

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I've got a new walnut stock Scout Squad. I like it a lot although I haven't been able to afford much shooting with it. I bought it a couple months ago and have only put maybe 150 rounds through it.
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SOCOM 2 w/extended rail. No doubt in my mind. Good for getting food, protection, and war.

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I cannot afford and LRB and the older Springfields with GI parts sure cost a premium as well.
Keep your eyes open for a well cared for, slightly used Bush, Scout or other M1A that can be purchased below value. Chances are real good any 'bugs' have been worked out and the action runs like a sewing machine.
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I got the loaded model several years ago and have been happy with it. I'd probably get the walnut stock instead of the synthetic, if I were to get another M1A.
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I chose a Polytech M14-S with a forged receiver and SEI upgrades.
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Originally Posted by bmcgilvray View Post


I've got the M1A that I want. It's an early Springfield Armory standard model. No "loaded," no "match grade," no shorty model, no scope. Only one opinion but I do like the better ballistics rendered from the standard length barrel and prefer to keep the muzzle blast farther away from me so don't want anything to do with any of the short-barreled versions. Compactness is over-rated in my view and wouldn't likely actually be as enjoyable to shoot over the long term.

This rifle is equipped with an SAK 1-69 barrel and is good for 1 1/2-inch 5-shot groups at 100 yards from a bench rest, 1 1/4-inch if I'm really in the shooting mood.

It's been a dependable rifle for high-power competition shooting at the local level and is great fun for long range plinking sessions from a canyon rim.

so a new m30 tac does shoot just as accurate as m1a i was wondering about that
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Another vote for Standard.
Out of the box, most M1As can shoot better than their owners. Spend the extra $ on ammo, magazines and a Dillon 550.
You can easily add the tritum sight or a rail to the Standard, if those are gotta-have items.
My M1A started life as a Bush model, but I couldn't warm up to the 18" barrel, so it got a standard chrome-lined barrel installed. I'm much happier with it now.

The FAL seems "right" with either an 18" or 21", but the M1A just feels better with a 21" barrel.
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The standard M1A comes with a 22" barrel...
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Originally Posted by H2O MAN View Post
The standard M1A comes with a 22" barrel...
Quite true. mea culpa
What can I say: I'm old and often forgetful....
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Quite true. mea culpa
What can I say: I'm old and often forgetful....
I know what you mean... what were we talking about anyway
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Originally Posted by H2O MAN View Post
My very first was a Scout Squad and I firmly believe the 18.0" barrel is the very best length length for general purpose shooting... I like mine with a GLFS and a DC Vortex from SEI.

If you prefer a traditional stock consider installing the M8 hand guard from UltiMAK and a low sitting Aimpoint or Scout scope.

I you want a pistol grip consider an EBR chassis from SAGE. BTW, you can have any M1A/M14 trigger tuned after buying the rifle.

My collection includes a 16.25", two 18.0" and two 22.0" configurations.

H2O man you have an awesome collection. I think the Scout 18" barrel is the perfect length for the Sage stock. That will be my future setup.
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Originally Posted by Prash2486 View Post
H2O man you have an awesome collection.
I think the Scout 18" barrel is the perfect length for the Sage stock.
That will be my future setup.
Thank you. Putting an 18.0" Scout in a SAGE chassis
back in 2004 was my 1st attempt at building an EBR.







It was a beast, but it got better especially after I was
introduced to Ron Smith over at Smith Enterprise, Inc.

Best of luck with your future setup.




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I only have 2, a SOCOM & a Scout. I purchased the latter first with no regrets.
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