Is there any links on the net where to buy a nice pistol grip stock for the M1A at a reasonable price? I think 400+ Dollars for a stock is a bit excessive.

$400.00 won't buy much. Invest a little more and get the good stuff.
Or try a walnut E2 from FRED's, one that you can refinish.

I've been browsing Fred's stocks, however he seems to always not to have the E2 stocks.

At about the 400 dollar level and up, I'm morelikely to buy another rifle. Don't get me wrong, I love my M1A, but for cosmetic look, its a lot of money in my opinion.

I just was hoping someone knew of another source. I'll keep looking, and if I find one, I find one, if not I'm still happy with the factory stock on my Springfield.

H2O,

Can you give more detail on the three rifles and stocks used? Barrel lengths, model #'s, etc... Also what scope is used on the middle rifle? What kind of groups you shoot with the three rifles at various distances? Any real noticable difference in grouping when comparing barrel lengths?

John

There was a guy in cali that was selling converted M14 stocks. He added a pistol grip. Dont get me wrong, they looked good, but they were around $200 IIRC.
To me that's a lot of $$$ for epoxying on a $10 AR pistol grip.

EDIT:
I think he goes by the name "preferredcustoms" or something like that.

John, some answers to your questions from top to bottom:

1: M14SE Crazy Horse® LITE SDM in TROY MCS (Norinco receiver)
22" standard weight 4 groove, 1:10 ROT Crazy Horse LITE barrel with M80HT.
New and unfired MOA or better is expected.

2: Crazy Horse® MK14 SEI in SAGE Mod 0 *medium heavy barrel (Poly Tech receiver)
18" medium heavy 4 groove, 1:10 ROT Crazy Horse barrel with M80HT.
The scope is a Burris 2-7x32 Handgun Scope with Ballistic Plex reticle.
This action shot sub-MOA with Portuguese surplus ball with an EOTech before I M80HT and Burris scope.
It is currently new and unfired, sub-MOA is expected.

3: MK14 SEI in SAGE Mod 1 (Norinco receiver) 18" 4 groove, 1:10 ROT chrome lined barrel. 25 round CMI magazine.
I have fired about 1800 rounds from this action and it will shoot 2 MOA all day and it will shoot better than 1 MOA with good ammo.

All three barrels have military M118LR chambers that allow me to shoot just about any 7.62/.308 ammo ever made.
M80HT is a heat treatment that allows unlined barrels to exceed chrome lined barrel life without sacrificing accuracy.
All three were custom built for me by Ron Smith at Smith Enterprise, Inc.

Hello H20 MAN, I myself have a SOCOM II on the way but need a grip for it so don't slash up my hand on the rails. I'm more intrested in the black grip you have on gun #2 in your pictures, but I cant see to find it anyware online. Any suggestions on whare to look?

That is a proprietary SAGE hand guard that probably not work.
Look at ladder rail covers from Magpul.

Good luck ~

Thanks for the info, it dosent look like what I wanted but it should do the job along with the finger gloves that I use (becuase I get sweaty palms). I do like the idea of being able to cut them to size though.

Ladder rail covers are very nice... if you look close you will see them on all 3 rifles

You didn't state if you wanted a wood stock or a synthetic or other type of stock. But, there are always the wood folders from Reese Surplus.

I've got the VLTOR M14 Modstock for my Socom II. I really like the fit and how it shoots. I got mine direct from VLTOR at a discount because at the time I was military. If you have that going for you, or know someone who is military who could buy the stock for you, you'll get 30% off, if I remember correctly. That should bring it down to around $345 if my number crunching is correct, but double check that because my math is questionable at best.

My M1A SOCOM II w/Vltor stock

I hope you find what you're looking for at the price that you're looking for. Good Luck!

TG

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Ergo grips makes a few different types of rail covers, including the ladder covers like Magpul. I have those on some of my rifles and they are really great. Hope this helps.


http://www.ergogrips.net/subcats.cfm?Category=28

TG

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This is the Viron Gen 3 stock for about $415. Theyre wood core/carbon fiber wrapped. Just know that the sage and others arent a whole lot more and you may want to consider saving. If you want a field rifle this may be a great option because it is lightweight. The others, as I understand it, improve accuracy. Either way...good luck. Remember to buy what you like best first, If you dont, youll end up wasting alot of many trying to save a couple of bucks. I hope that makes sense

https://www.m14-m1aheaven.com/module...&category_id=1

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I put one of my SEI M21A5 rifles in a new SAGE EBR that I picked up last week.

Not that the sage stock isn't a nice stock, but I really don't want the forward rails on the gun. I would love a stock like the factory style Mini-14 factory foliding stocks for the M1A. I also wouldn't mind a stock like the ATI Strikeforce Stock (Again like on the Mini-14). Plus I can not see spending 400+ dollars on the stock. I like the factory walnut stock that I have, but I would like the option for a lower cost stock if I felt like putting a pistol grip stock on my gun.

where can i get one of those grips on the bottom rail like the one on the sage and the top one of the picture of three? also would they mount to any picatinny rail? thanks!

That started out as a Houge grip on an ARMS throw lever mount, but I installed a Magpul MIAD on it.

so sorry the second one in the pic of three, with the scout style mounted scope and like the one in the EBR stock, they call it the forward hand cover. where can i get one.

OK - that's the standard Kydex cover available from SAGE.
The same cover is pictured on my SEI M21A5 EBR.

thanks!