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Old 02-03-2002, 10:06   #1
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This ad was on the cover of the shotgun news it says that "the US army program sells fully operational rifles direct from federal arsenals. All U.S. citizens eligible to purchase 5 rifles a year. "

How much do these rifles run and how hard is it too qualify, do you have to be part of a club?
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Although I don't know for sure, I've always thought you would just get the CMP Rifle Application kit for your five dollars. Sure would be nice to see SGN place the CMP ad on the same page that this other ad runs on.

Best bet is to just go through the CMP directly at http://www.odcmp.com/ . At least the application is free.

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Old 02-05-2002, 14:26   #3
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I just sent out the paper work to order a Garand. It took me some time to figure out how to do it. Go to the CMP website noted above and go to the "Forms" section and open up the M1 application. This really spells it out for you, step by step.

There two catches: one catch is that you have to be a member of a affiliated club. (elsewhere on the site it lists all of them). In my case the Califronia Rifle and Pistol Assoc and $18 was good enough.

The second is that you have to "qualify". Again, the application packet spells out what this means. For a regular civillian, you need to show proof that you shot in a sanction match or clinic. Again, look for the list of affiliated clubs in you areas (shooting clubs) and ask them how you can qaulify for CMP. My local club was affiliated but they were never sure when the next event would be. I read farther and noted that you could also "qualify" if you were over 60 years old. My dad is always game for a new rifle so we filled out the paper work on his behalf.

If you're law enforcment, active or ex-military you also "qualify".

Its coming soon and we can't wait to get it in our hands.

Read this and you'll be sold!
http://www.fulton-armory.com/whycmp.htm
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Old 02-08-2002, 19:24   #4
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Hi Guys, just got 2 really nice m-1's from the CMP folks. Delivery was quick and the guns checked out when I ran them by Gus at Gus's Garands in Mechanicsville. He was a marine armorer for 27 years and there does not appear to be much he does not know about the rifle. He charges $20 + parts to go through them and make sure they are safe to shoot. Mine checked out very well and there were no extra charges. the following phone numbers may be helpful. Skip Newman

Civilian Markmanship Program 888 267 0796

Gus's Garands 804 559 3810 I called after 7PM
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Old 02-18-2002, 14:12   #5
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I just received a nice 1944 SA from CMP. You can join the Garand Collectors Association, a quailifying club for $20 a year. You do not have to meet the match requirements if you are a veteran or over 60. These guns have been completely reconditioned so they are in service condition when you get them.
I hate to see tham advertising them so heavily as I would like to buy several more before they run out.
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Old 02-19-2002, 12:56   #6
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so all you have to do is join a gunclub and be a decent shot?
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Old 02-19-2002, 13:35   #7
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so all you have to do is join a gunclub and be a decent shot?
Not exactly, you have to join a club affiliated with the DCM, ann shoot a CMP sactioned event, You don't even have to shoot decently, just safely. You do not have to shoot a sanctioned event if you have an honorable military discharge,or active duty, be certain law enforcement offices or be 60 years of age. Good luck its a good deal, and these Garands will dissappear like the 1903 and M-1 carbines did..
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We just got our Garand last week. WOW!
Springfield reciever built in March of '44
Turnaroud time was 1 month.
It has been well used but is in better shape than a couple CMP Garands I've seen recently at the range.
I'm sending it of to Fulton Armory for a inspection, clean/lube and test fire.

Anyone have the story on what the big white "76" on the side of the buttstock and the "9" on the heel of the grip signify?
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Old 03-08-2002, 16:10   #9
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Hey I just called the CMP about the shooting qualification. They have a new order form with ambiguous language. It sounded to me like I could show evidence of shooting in ANY competition or clinic, not just a CMP sanctioned event.
I recently completed Fronsight's practical rifle class. I asked if evidence that I did that would be enough. The gal at customer service said yes!
As soon as I get my Calif Rifle and Pistol membership updated, I'm sending off for a Garand of my own!
I'll let ya'll know if it works.
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Old 03-09-2002, 20:22   #10
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I just got 800 round of Lake City ammo. Have you noticed that they are for a while offering some ' 03 rifles. just ordered 2.
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Old 03-13-2002, 06:10   #11
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That requirement that you be a recent participant in a shooting event is the killer for me. In my area, the only shooting events held are occasional shotgun matches. And no, I've never been in the military, I'm not an active police officer, and I'm not over 60. Bummer.
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So how much were they goin' for?
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Old 03-14-2002, 14:19   #13
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It looks like they've updated thier price list.
As low as $375 for a "rack grade" Danish Springfield
up to $575 for a "service grade Winchester
http://www.odcmp.com/Services/Rifles/m1garand.htm
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Buying M1 Garands

I have a C&R and Im wanting to buy Garands from CMP. What else do I need so I can buy from them?
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Purchasing Garands from the CMP

First, you do not have to have any type of FFL to purchase from the CMP, Civilian Marksmanship Program. It is an organization designed to supply INDIVIDUALS with servicable firearms for collecting and for SHOOTING in matches. Shooting in organized matches is a requirement for most folks to purchase firearms from the CMP. You also have to be a documented citizen. Civilian Marksmanship Program has all of the answers that you will need. Best of luck to you. DennyMac
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Skip Newman:

It never hurts to have a gun smith evaluate an item, but the CMP verifies that their guns are safe to operate, along with measuring, categorizing the TE and ME of each Garand.

A friend who retired from the Navy Marksmanship Team still shoots at Camp Perry OH, and a year ago he picked out a Service Grade for me after the match.
It's my first M-1 and this friend/coworker has The large book which describes when all of the various component serial numbers were manufactured.

He also vouched for the safety of all of the guns sold, both at Camp Perry and at Anniston AL, and owns 18 Garands.

Sorry-just noticed that this 'thread' began in 2002.......
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C&R might be enough

Not sure where I read this, but I believe that having a C&R will suffice to buy through CMP. I don't think you need to have proof of competition if you have one. Call or email them to verify.
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No C&R is required and it doesn't make any difference if you have one or not. In order to buy from CMP you need to simply be a US citizen and meet their pretty simple requirements. The purpose of CMP is to promote civilian marksmanship = sell to individuals.

Read it here, from the CMP web site:

The Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP) is a U.S. government-chartered program that promotes firearms safety training and rifle practice for all qualified U.S. citizens with special emphasis on youth. Any U.S. citizen who is legally not prohibited from owning a firearm may purchase a military surplus rifle from the CMP, provided they are a member of a CMP affiliated club. The CMP operates through a network of affiliated shooting clubs and state associations that covers every state in the U.S. The clubs and associations offer firearms safety training and marksmanship courses as well as the opportunity for continued practice and competition.

As far as the marksmanship requirements:

In order to purchase a government-surplus rifle through the CMP sales program, purchasers are required to submit proof or documentation that they are familiar with safe gun handling practices and basic range procedures. Individuals who previously received instruction and successfully completed range firing through military or police training, participation in a competition or clinic, completion of a hunter safety course or other similar activities have fulfilled this requirement. The CMP strongly encourages all individuals who have not previously fulfilled this requirement to attend a marksmanship clinic or other similar course of instruction (Upcoming CMP-sanctioned marksmanship clinics are listed on the CMP web site at http://www.odcmp.com/cliniccalendar.asp.) If a clinic or other qualifying activity is not available in your area, you may fulfill this requirement by taking a firearm of your choice to a rifle, pistol, air gun or shotgun range
where you must fire a minimum of 50 rounds while demonstrating familiarity with the gun safety and range procedures identified in this form. A club or range official or law enforcement officer must witness your firing by signing this form to affirm that your firing was done safely and conformed to these standards. The type of firing is optional; there are no prescribed courses of fire or required scores.
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CCW also satisfies the marksmanship requirement, that's how I did it.
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CCW is usable only if the issuing state has a marksmanship requirement in the class. For example Utah does not require you to even handle a gun to obtain a permit. I don't think CMP will accept a Utah permit or any other state which does not require the holder to complete a marksmanship course. Also if the individual is over the age of 60, no marksmanship requirement need be met.
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Originally Posted by medalguy View Post
CCW is usable only if the issuing state has a marksmanship requirement in the class. For example Utah does not require you to even handle a gun to obtain a permit. I don't think CMP will accept a Utah permit or any other state which does not require the holder to complete a marksmanship course. Also if the individual is over the age of 60, no marksmanship requirement need be met.
Didn't know that - I'm in TX and my previous CCWs were in CA and AZ all of which required marksmanship qualification (in CA it was 75 rounds per each gun you wanted to carry! Ridiculous!!)
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Incidentally I tried to login to CMP today to buy some ammo and was advised that my Texas Rifle Assn membership has expired - oops! I need to send them a new membership card before I can restock
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this reply in regards to 1911 gregg...
for those not aware in 2010 Hillary Clinton and the State Dept. banned the
resale of M1 Garands from S. Korea. Recently there is indications they may
reverse that ban. Contact your Reps. and Sens. ask them to tell the State
Dept. to lift this ban.
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Originally Posted by PatriotM1A View Post
this reply in regards to 1911 gregg...
for those not aware in 2010 Hillary Clinton and the State Dept. banned the
resale of M1 Garands from S. Korea. Recently there is indications they may
reverse that ban. Contact your Reps. and Sens. ask them to tell the State
Dept. to lift this ban.
You might want to do a little fact checking, the Garands SK was wanting to sell didn't belong to SK, they belong to the US Govt (on loan TO SK), and were supposed to be returned to the US when SK finished with them.

IOW they were trying to sell something that they didn't own

BTW, you do realize that your answering a 10 year old question, from someone that no longer posts here?
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Hi Tailgunner:

Right, I was aware that the M-1s were due to be returned to the US (if permitted by our Exec. Branch), but did not notice that the guy's comments were ten years old.

After a long duty day (three-four legs flown) a date can slip by me. Thanks for the clarification.
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