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Old 10-04-2011, 18:06   #1
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45 70

I have been wanting a 45 70 for a while. Waiting on local gun shop to get some Marlins in and just read about the new Rossi rio grand in 45 70. Anyone got a look at one yet? I wonder how strong they will be compared to the Marlin. JC
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Old 10-05-2011, 06:25   #2
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Marlins have traditionally been forged receivers. Don't know about the Rossi. You can't go wrong with a Marlin but if you can determine if the Rossi is forged, it may be OK.
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Old 10-09-2011, 07:39   #3
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Went to town and found a Marlin 1895 GBL and brought it home for $529.
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You wont be disappointed. Marlins are great guns I have had my 45-70 for several years and it is a great rifle. I also have a 44 mag and would not trade it either. Look for an earlier model. They are my preference. The Marlins are proven tough and durable guns. Good luck.
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Old 10-10-2011, 05:23   #5
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45-70

Just read an article on the Rossi in the recent American Rifleman NRA publication and it shows it is an investment cast receiver. It's a cheaper method of manufacture but not as strong as the forged or CNC machined item. You definitely made the right choice!
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Old 10-10-2011, 08:17   #6
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Originally Posted by RollTideRam View Post
Went to town and found a Marlin 1895 GBL and brought it home for $529.
Thats a pretty decent price. I too have wanted a 45/70 for a long time and I was set on the GBL, then after further browsing I discovered the SBL and went with that. It is sitting at the cabelas store waiting for me. It was $850, which seems to be the going rate. I was looking for a few months for one and all the shops around me said they didn't have one and all of their suppliers were out. I called Cabelas on a whim and they had two so I went and put 250 down. Now im just waiting for my Cabelas Visa card to come in the mail that I applied for to go pick up the rifle. 1% back in Cabelas credit on all purchases and 2% back on purchases at Cabelas. The hell with airline miles, I want free ammo! Let us know how the GBL shoots. Track down some buffalo bore 45/70 ammo if you want to get the most out of the cartrige
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I wanted the sbl pretty bad, they had one for $799, but I would not be able to sneak in a Ruger 1911 before the end of the year, if I went with it. JC
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When I used to have my Marlin 45/70,I hand loaded all my ammunition, my most potent round was a 500 grain lead flat point loaded up over a stout charge of IMR 4895. We used a 500 pound bale of card board from a trash compactor for a target that was in front of a bulldozer blade Believe it or not, the bullet penetrated the bale completely and bounced off the bull dozer blade in close to perfect shape! That was my T-Rex, giant mutant alligator load and it was the one that convinced me to get a really thick butt pad installed on it!
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Old 10-13-2011, 13:56   #9
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Originally Posted by wonderdog451 View Post
When I used to have my Marlin 45/70,I hand loaded all my ammunition, my most potent round was a 500 grain lead flat point loaded up over a stout charge of IMR 4895. We used a 500 pound bale of card board from a trash compactor for a target that was in front of a bulldozer blade Believe it or not, the bullet penetrated the bale completely and bounced off the bull dozer blade in close to perfect shape! That was my T-Rex, giant mutant alligator load and it was the one that convinced me to get a really thick butt pad installed on it!
I have heard stories like that from other 45/70 guys shooting heavy bullets over a large powder load. I need to start reloading. I have several calibers that are perfect candidtaes for reloaders, 10mm auto, 45/70, and 357 mag. From what I understand all will benefit greatly in terms of cost and performance if I reload them. Its a work in progress. I wish I had a teacher for this one.
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Old 10-13-2011, 14:42   #10
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the 10mm,45/70 and 38 special/357 magnum are perfect candidates for reloading! One of my "oh wow" loads for the .357 magnum involved a really light 110 grain bullet over a max load of 2400 powder fired out of my six-inch Smith and Wesson. it would light up the entire range. On the other hand, I worked up a 38 special target load that was a 148 or 158 grain double ended wad-cutter loaded over a light charge of unique. It was so accurate that I used to regularly give my target a smiley face at twenty feet.
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Old 11-06-2011, 10:13   #11
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Originally Posted by RCRBanjo View Post
Just read an article on the Rossi in the recent American Rifleman NRA publication and it shows it is an investment cast receiver. It's a cheaper method of manufacture but not as strong as the forged or CNC machined item. You definitely made the right choice!
Ruger makes a lot of investment cast parts . If the part is made with a generous amount of metal ( dimensions large enough ) , investment cast parts are plenty strong .

On the other hand , this is the first I have heard of a Rossi .45-70 .

Another important point is the design of the action . Some designs are stronger than others .

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Old 11-06-2011, 10:17   #12
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Originally Posted by StevieGuns77 View Post
I have heard stories like that from other 45/70 guys shooting heavy bullets over a large powder load. I need to start reloading. I have several calibers that are perfect candidtaes for reloaders, 10mm auto, 45/70, and 357 mag. From what I understand all will benefit greatly in terms of cost and performance if I reload them. Its a work in progress. I wish I had a teacher for this one.

Need a reloading teacher ? Where are you ?

Also , there are hundreads of reloading reloate videos on YouTube .

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Old 11-07-2011, 07:24   #13
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Originally Posted by WyrTwister View Post
Need a reloading teacher ? Where are you ?

Also , there are hundreads of reloading reloate videos on YouTube .

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Im in Illinois about 20 miles west of Chicago. My biggest factor for not reloading at this point is time. I work full time and go to school full time. I have a good job and im still living at home so I can afford nice toys but I don't get nearly as much range time as I would like to.
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Old 11-07-2011, 12:35   #14
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Originally Posted by StevieGuns77 View Post
Im in Illinois about 20 miles west of Chicago. My biggest factor for not reloading at this point is time. I work full time and go to school full time. I have a good job and im still living at home so I can afford nice toys but I don't get nearly as much range time as I would like to.


Way too far away for me to be of any help with one on one reloading instruction .

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Old 11-08-2011, 10:40   #15
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haha I appreciate it anyway. You dont want to come here. am pretty mechanically inclined so im sure I will figure it out. Maybe ill start in December when im on break from school.
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Old 11-16-2011, 16:50   #16
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Remington stopped production of the Marlin lever guns because of the quality control problems they were having. There are some very unhappy people out there right now. FRJ
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Old 11-17-2011, 13:24   #17
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The "quality controll" problem is there wasn't any.
They could have installed the barrel crossways and it would have gotten out of the factory.
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Originally Posted by StevieGuns77 View Post
I have heard stories like that from other 45/70 guys shooting heavy bullets over a large powder load. I need to start reloading. I have several calibers that are perfect candidtaes for reloaders, 10mm auto, 45/70, and 357 mag. From what I understand all will benefit greatly in terms of cost and performance if I reload them. Its a work in progress. I wish I had a teacher for this one.
Even more economical if you cast your own bullet .

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I have owned or do own a couple of 45-70s. An original Winchester 86, a TC contender and an older Marlin. The Marlin has a micro grove barrel and it's by far the most accurate 45-70 I have ever owned. I never saw the need to load it to mag levels. For deer and bear it gets 300-350 grain bullets at moderate speeds using VV N133 powder. For a moose load I stick to mid level loads using a 400 grain flat noise bullet.

I sure hope Remington works out the problems with the Marlin lever guns. Until they do if I needed a lever gun I would find an older Marlin.
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