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Old 07-09-2011, 12:21   #1
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marlin 1894c vs rossi 92

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Im in the process of buying a lever action chambered in .357/.38 it is between the marlin 1894css or the rossi puma 92ss. would like to know your thoughts on which one. can order the marlin from wal-mart for around $650 but the rossi is cheaper. this carbine would be mated to my taurus 627 ss tracker and rossi and taurus are pretty much the same company. but i think the marlin my be a better rifle. thanks
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Old 07-15-2011, 12:54   #2
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Am a marlin fan. But if they are as nice as the rest of rossi levers. You won't have any problems. A friend has one in process of getting slicked up. Handled nicely
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I've owned both, here's my breakdown:

Rossi-
Very affordable
Clunky out of the box, but after an action job it's slicker than anything
Top ejecting means scoping is not really an option
16" barrel makes it extremely light and handy
Kind of a PITA to take apart and re-asssemble
Looks very classic

Marlin-
More pricey
Side ejecting means scoping is pretty simple, but sucks for lefties
Action is fairly smooth out of the box
Longer barrel means it's ever so slightly less "handy"
Has a more "modern" look to the wood
Easy to disassemble and reassemble

Both rifles are great, tons of fun, fairly comparable accuracy... Although, I think I would give the nod to the marlin for that. Never tested them side by side to be sure, it just felt like it was a little more consistent. I would prefer the marlin for hunting, but I would prefer the rossi for home defense or backpacking... But either would do for just about any role within reasonable range.
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I like the design of the Rossi as it is a copy of the Browning designed Winchester Model 1892. Don't know enough about the Rossi to be able to say that its execution is of adequate quality.
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I've had both and loved them both. I decided however to sell off the rossi. The sights seemed to be regulated for light loads. Also the marlin comes scope compatible, the rossi does not. If you will never be scoping the rifle, then take your pick. My eyes are getting older, therefore a scope is in my lever's future. I also like the idea that if I have a problem, sending it to marlin for service is not an issue. So score me marlin +1.
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Old 11-09-2011, 19:59   #6
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I'm not a Rossi owner. I have owned a marlin 1894 in .44 Mag and it was one of the best Rifles I have owned. Smooth action good accuracy. I would like to get a Marlin 1894c in .357 Mag to go with my S&W model 66.
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Rossi for me! I have 3 Model 92's, all with 16" barrels. A 357, 44mag, and a 45Colt. The 357 is set up as a Scout type with a forwad mounted scope, but the other 2 have Skinner peep sights. I have older eyes with glasses, and find the peep sights are very helpful. The 16" barrels do make these rifles very handy, and doing a gunsmithing session on each has made them very smooth to operate.A DVD from Steve's Gunz is all you need to do this job.
The Rossi action is built heavier than the Winchester or Marlin, however I don't think any of us will ever wear any one of these three out! Warranty work from Rossi/BrazTech is as good as any, just a little slower.
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:53   #9
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Good luck finding a Marlin. If you are looking for new, forgetaboutit. Production has been halted till sometime in 2012 due to serious problems since the Remington buyout of Marlin tho it is possible to stumble across one that has been sitting in a warehouse somewhere. Prices of used ones, if you can find one, are climbing at about $50 per month.
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Rossi & Marlin

I have both .

If you ever think you will scope it , get the Marlin . Other wise , get the Rossi .

My Rossies ( .357 Mag & .45 LC ) get shot , the Marlin 1894 ( .44 Mag ) , not much .

When you get the Rossi , clean and lube it well & then sit down and cycle it while watching TV to loosen it up a bit .

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Rossi Marlin

Have both, prefer the Rossi. Both rifles will need some major tune up even as new purchases. After all the Rossi becomes much more smooth and is less prawn to jamming. I repair those rifles and tune them to perfection. Just like the light weight and and handiness of the Rossi. The Marlin is a strong well built but somewhat hard rifle. Nine out of ten times I take the Rossi to the range. If you mechanically inclined none of the rifles will give you any trouble to repair tune and adjust. Steve's Gunz, The Home of the Rossi 92 Specialist for people who are not mechanically inclined.

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A point to consider is if you reload and shoot cast bullets the Rossi has standard style rifling while the Marlin has Micro-grove. You can shoot cast in a micro-grove but it tends to like harder bullets and requires very careful sizing to the bore size. The Rossi is a bit more forgiving in this respect.
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Originally Posted by compuwatch View Post
If you mechanically inclined none of the rifles will give you any trouble to repair tune and adjust. Steve's Gunz, The Home of the Rossi 92 Specialist for people who are not mechanically inclined.

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What he said ... I have 2 Rossis, well one older Rossi Interarms blued 20" 357 with walnut, and the other is case hardened saddle ring EMF with blued 20" 357 and walnut. I got Steve's DVD, SS mag followers and Gunslinger spring kits for them. Took a weekend, broke them down, cleaned out the grit from the factory, lubed, replaced the springs, etc. put them back together and they are slick. Only other thing I want to do is put some peep sights on there, but action wise they're quick, point easy, take every load (I shoot mostly cast bullets), and really carry well. Reason I had 2 is I had 1 until my wife shot it ... and then it was hers.

Marlins are well built, and probably easier to clean, but even with additional parts I put on the 92, I was still several hundred dollars less than the price of a 94.

I will say this though; I am refinishing the wood to a linseed egg shell finish, but the factory finish is a pain the butt to remove. It's gonna look great when its done; the brazilian hardwood has plenty of grain and figure.
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I first got a Marlin 1894 in .44 mag a few years ago and love the handiness and feel of the action. It was my fave levergun until I got a Rossi stainless 24" octagon in .45 Colt a few months ago.

I've run close to 800 rounds through it since then with zero probs. The Rossi may not compare in value or finish to the old Winchesters, but neither does the Marlin. Neither modern version is by any means a P.O.S. though. Both are a very good value for the price.

IMO, your choice may depend on the style of action you want. Get both and be happy.
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It's an old thread, I would hope the OP made the choice a long time ago, but it's a great topic.

I have both. I love both. My next purchase would probably go to the one I find next.

You will find crowds that want you to "slick up" the action on either rifle. We have an impatient culture. You will be surprised how much either will smooth out after a few hundred rounds. I don't find them objectionable out of the box. But I'm a functional shooter, not a cowboy exhibitionist.

94's are heavier and for many, that may make them shoot more accurately. A lighter object will respond more to slight errors in hold and trigger pull. It's also worth noting, the felt recoil in a lighter rifle is greater. The 92 with stout loads will get your attention. It's a joy with cowboy loads.

Either rifle shoots better than I can with factory sights. Not a lot of people can hit a 6" pie plate repeatedly much beyond 100 yards when shooting offhand. The front sight will be as wide as the target. Receiver sights double that distance for me. And yes, you can do better from a rest.

A scope is a whole different ballgame. If I were feeling the need for a scope, I would choose the Marlin and I might be inclined to choose a rifle cartridge instead.
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"Back in the late 1990s, with the rising popularity of cowboy action shooting and its emphasis on historical accuracy, a whole new group of shooters started picking up Marlin leverguns. Because of their desire to load cast bullets in them, and because of the on-going, nagging (and inaccurate) rumors of poor accuracy from Microgroove barrels, Marlin eventually caved in and dropped Microgroove rifling for a number of their leverguns in the late 1990s. Sales of the cowboy guns have been brisk (especially those chambered for period correct cartridges, like the .45 Colt and .45-70). Marlin helps to feed this nostalgia by referring to these guns as "Ballard rifled".

As of fall of 2007, Marlin still makes a number of guns that have Microgroove barrels on them (according to the 2007 Marlin catalog posted on their website; Marlin Firearms). All of their .22 LR and .22 Magnum rifles still have Microgroove barrels. The 336s in .30-30 and .35 Remington are still made with Microgroove barrels, however the stainless 336XLR in .30-30 and .35 Remington have Ballard rifled barrels. All of the big-bore Marlin leverguns (e.g. 444, 1895, etc.) are now fitted with Ballard rifled barrels (both blued and stainless guns), as are the 1894 and 1895 Cowboy models. Interestingly, in the 1894 series, the.44 Magnum and .357 Magnum guns are Ballard rifled, but the .32-20 1894CL and .41 Magnum 1894 FG are both fitted with Microgroove barrels."

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I have both. And I shoot them both. I like that I can shoot the Rossi and then catch the brass in my hand as it comes down. The Marlin is much more accurate. The Rossi after some serious work cycles way faster. I would buy them both. Flip a coin, buy one then after a bit, buy the other. Can't go wrong.
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Yes, Nate is the to go to guy. Very friendly and an awsome gunsmith. I highly recommend him.
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I bought more than a few items for my Rossi from him. All worked out very well.
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"I repair those rifles and tune them to perfection."

I thought Steve hand sneaked onto the website .

As a cowboy shooter, Steve's reputation with the '92 and its clones is legendary.
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I watched his video and ordered all the parts and springs. I took care and fitted them all together carefully (I am not sure like he would have) as I could. I then had a nice mat finish applied and some ghost rings installed. The action is so much smoother and the trigger is so nice. I never go to the range without it.
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Originally Posted by dh1633pm View Post
I have both. And I shoot them both. I like that I can shoot the Rossi and then catch the brass in my hand as it comes down. The Marlin is much more accurate. The Rossi after some serious work cycles way faster. I would buy them both. Flip a coin, buy one then after a bit, buy the other. Can't go wrong.
Hi there,

What kind of accuracy are you getting out your .357 Rossi? I would like to get a 16"-18" .357 carbine. Typical application for camp use in the desert with ranges of 150 yards for target shooting, defensive use against two-legged goblins, small to medium black bear (and cougar), also game up to whitetail size out to about 75 yards. I was thinking putting peep sights or a ghost ring system with a tritium front post, like XS.
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Mine is in 45 LC with a 20 inch barrel. I have the XS ghost ring sights. Easy to adjust and they line up nicely. Mounted the rear just in front of the lugs. I don't really shoot it on paper, just to sight it in. I can hit a six inch steel plate all day at 100 yards. It really destroys the bungee cords. I was able to hit the steel plate at 200 years at the range by aiming high, but I never consider the rifle for that range. Here I hunt in the tight woods, you can't see 100 yards let alone shoot at something. I mostly shoot lead and sometimes copper bullets. I have never purchased factory ammo for it. The 10 round capacity is nice. I am sure the rifle would meet your needs.

When I go hunting, I still take the Marlin 1895G. Bear or Moose, no problem, only if I ever got to see one. There out there somewhere.

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