I've been looking into purchasing a Puma 92 lever. I'm torn between three choices: a .44, a .454, and their .480 Ruger, all in the stainless finishes.
I want a lever/handgun combo. The most appealing handguns (to me) are the Ruger Bisley Hunter (for the .44), and the Ruger Super Redhawk, in either the .454 or .480 Ruger.
I have the puma in 454. Its a really nice rifle. When I bought mine the box was marked that it would take 45LC or 454CAS rounds. Mine choked a few times when cycling the action so I sent it back. They told me that they did not waranty them to cycle the 45LC. Evidently some do and some don't.
My gun smith fixed the issue with an action job for about $150.
Its still an awsome rifle even before the action job. I would opt AGAINST the fiber optic front sight though. These rifles were meant for dense brush use and I've ripped off that fiber optic front sight twice while walking in the brush opps...
If I had one thing to change, make it a SS with a shorter barrel (say 16 to 18 inches). You loose a little muzle velocity but not much and I think increased portability coupled with not having to worry about the elements would really make it almost THE perfect packing rifle.
Someone recently gave me a 30-30 marlin lever gun that didnt work.. they must not have loaded it or took it off safety. It works LOL.... lucky day, free gun.
I was really gleeful about my recent levergun buy until your mention of that free Marlin. I stopped into a hockshop in the state north of me and found a really decent Mod-94 /.30-30 for 190 bucks. It's a great shooter and I probably wouldn't have bought it without that price. It's only my second levergun........the other was a Mod-94 /.44 mag I had to sell when I first got out of the service so I could eat and pay rent.
I don't know anybody who owns a gun and would give it to me. Maybe you could tell me the secret so these sweet gifts and deals would come my way. Things might get better for me though if I didn't keep trying to sell gun ownership to everyone.
Not your typical pack rifle but the daddy of lever scouts . This ole boy will rock an roll on anything on this continent and with the right load any other. After about 10 rounds my 145 pound frame is ready for a little mini 14 target practice. I've shot only Buffalo Bore 430 grainers 45/70 so far with good results, 1 & 3/4 @ 100 yds from the bench with open sights. Haven't gotten round to sighting in the aimpoint yet (9000SC 2X 2MOA ) but soon I hope. This one has been slicked and tricked by Brockmans. Weight as shown 10lbs. Enjoy.
PS The sling and butt cuff are by Murry (Dick) custom leather down texas way.
hmm i was thinking about geting a marlin 45/70 the one that holds 9 shells but ive been reading alot about how there not very acurate past 100yrds and they dont hit much harder then a 12ga slug wich i already have a shotgun.
is this true or is it really a beast. i dont want to bye one if its not gonna perform any better then my shotgun.
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Originally Posted by rick12337
hmm i was thinking about geting a marlin 45/70 the one that holds 9 shells but ive been reading alot about how there not very acurate past 100yrds and they dont hit much harder then a 12ga slug wich i already have a shotgun.
is this true or is it really a beast. i dont want to bye one if its not gonna perform any better then my shotgun.
Within 100 yards, anything is hard pressed to out preform a 12 ga slug. A 1.25 ounce rem buckhammer 2 3/4" has a muzzle velocity of about 1700 fps, and 1.25 ounce is 547 grains. 3509ft/lbs of energy at the muzzle.
You are looking at about .300 weatherby or better to beat out the slug gun.
The Iron sights are Brockmans own design (ghost&winged) I used the XS scout mount (formerly Ashley Express) the rings are 30mm QR Leupold, yes sir cowitness was the objective/scout concept. NOW I am a LARGE fan of the shotgun myself as stated in my profile, but the ammo available for the 45/70 nowadays is a whole new ballgame. Do the research with an open mind and you will come away with a different point of view, what shotgun slug from a rifled barrel will shoot through a cape buff LENGTH WAYS and take down bull elk, American bison at 200-250 yds? The BIG five of Africa have been taken with the sort of ammo I speak of, check it out. Good shooting guys!
i use 2 3/4 buckhammers and my moss 500 with 24 in rifled slug barrel is dead on at 100 yards with rifle sights long as i do my part wich is about 1 or 2 shots before my aim starts get funky those things hurt the shoulder
Talking about the large bore lever rifles, I used to own a .450 marlin guide gun. This was a few years ago when the caliber was first released. This was a fine shooting rifle but kicked like a mule. It was pretty accurate at 200yards with a scope. The bullet dropped pretty fast after 250 yards so I wouldnt count on it after that. It was a doe stopper for sure. I could kick myself for selling that peice.
Oh yeah.. My grampa, who I would credit my habitual care and collecting of firearms, shot that .450 three times that day I bought it and handed it back to me saying "son, you can keep that one, I'm done with it"... It must have had a wee bit too much kick... I will never forget him saying that too me.
Not your typical pack rifle but the daddy of lever scouts . This ole boy will rock an roll on anything on this continent and with the right load any other. After about 10 rounds my 145 pound frame is ready for a little mini 14 target practice. I've shot only Buffalo Bore 430 grainers 45/70 so far with good results, 1 & 3/4 @ 100 yds from the bench with open sights. Haven't gotten round to sighting in the aimpoint yet (9000SC 2X 2MOA ) but soon I hope. This one has been slicked and tricked by Brockmans. Weight as shown 10lbs. Enjoy.
PS The sling and butt cuff are by Murry (Dick) custom leather down texas way.
Did you paint the stock? If that is synthetic furniture, please let me know!
Also, is it easy to convert to a curved butt-stock? Is that the way it came? I'm not too fond of the straight stock on my 1895GS.
Yes tlrpunk it is paint by BROCKMANS RIFLES, the pistol grip of the stock itself was modified by them also but the the metal to butt stock is as factory specs. I am not aware of a custom conversion available, but there are some crafty smiths out there that might. WILD WEST of Alaska makes synthetic stocks for marlins and they are proud of them $. Also Gary Reeder does some interesting work on leveractions.
Someone recently gave me a 30-30 marlin lever gun that didnt work.. they must not have loaded it or took it off safety. It works LOL.... lucky day, free gun.
.....reminds me of a guy I used to work with. He bought a van worth about $3,000 for $500, if I recall correctly. His neighbor couldn't get it to work. He worked and worked on it, replaced nearly everything .... but the gas gauge! IT WAS OUT OF GAS!
Originally Posted by rick12337
hmm i was thinking about geting a marlin 45/70 the one that holds 9 shells but ive been reading alot about how there not very acurate past 100yrds and they dont hit much harder then a 12ga slug wich i already have a shotgun.
is this true or is it really a beast. i dont want to bye one if its not gonna perform any better then my shotgun.
Bull pucky! They work WELL past 100 yards. Read some history books. The guys that can't hit past 100 yards are simply afraid of their rifle. These are generally the guys that think that if they use a big enough bullet, they can just wound an animal wherever they can, and still get the meat.
Originally Posted by johny guitar
Also Gary Reeder does some interesting work on leveractions.
Be prepared for a big ego, if you call Gary. He does custom work one way. HIS way. I don't know how you could call that "custom".
Well Travis, sounds like you've met Mr Reeder. I've not had the pleasure myself nor do I own any of his work or intend to. I read his forum for a couple of years and can only say (sounds like you've met mr reeder). As far as the level of his work I would'nt know what else to call it (custom?) although the post you make reference from I only stated his work was interesting. HAPPY THANKSGIVING to you all.
I hate it when I meet a true craftsman, love their work, and hate the person. Some people are just that way.
The woman that runs Kansas saddlery is that way. So far, they've basically been run out of 3 towns that I know of. She'll **** off people that are looking into spending between $5-10,000 for one saddle so bad, they'll drive 50 miles out of their way to buy a rope. Needless to say, I never bought anything from her. Kinda sad, when you live in a town of 50 people who wouldn't **** on your head to put out a fire in your hair.
Johny guitar,
I have a similar set up on my guide gun. I agree with you that this is a truely multi-function rifle and I love mine.
Good shooting to your sir.
I've been looking into purchasing a Puma 92 lever. I'm torn between three choices: a .44, a .454, and their .480 Ruger, all in the stainless finishes.
I want a lever/handgun combo. The most appealing handguns (to me) are the Ruger Bisley Hunter (for the .44), and the Ruger Super Redhawk, in either the .454 or .480 Ruger.
Jon
P.S. Eat lead Zombies!
Boy, you need to try the .45 Colt!
Factory ammo is spendy, but you need to start reloading, if you don't already. .45 Colt in a Ruger OM Vaquero can be loaded hotter than a .44 Magnum, at lower pressure.
I've been shooting some loads that run about 1450 fps that are about 4 grains below max, and they are definitely more than you'll ever need out of a handgun! These remind me of the Marty Robbins song where he says something about 14 inches of flame. They'll ruin your night vision.
. I've not had the pleasure myself nor do I own any of his work or intend to. I read his forum for a couple of years and can only say (sounds like you've met mr reeder). As far as the level of his work I would'nt know what else to call it (custom?) although the post you make reference from I only stated his work was interesting. HAPPY THANKSGIVING to you all.
Needless to say, I never bought anything from her. Kinda sad, when you live in a town of 50 people who wouldn't **** on your head to put out a fire in your hair.
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