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Old 04-29-2006, 18:57   #1
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tactical levergun

I know this has topic has been done before, but I probably missed it. I am just wondeing what your thoughts are on a tactical lever action. I know Sisk used to make a tactical lever called the Stopper Rifle, but I believe it has been discontinued. I am just wondering who might do these conversions, and what calibers would be good for this kind of rifle.

Have any of yall done something like this to your levers, or made a scout type conversion to them?

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Old 04-29-2006, 22:09   #2
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I have a scout mount on my marlin guide gun, marlin 336 and winchester 94 in 30/30. I love them. As far as turning them into "tac-levers" I'm not sure what you mean other than maybe adding a universal light mount (I prefer the velcro versions).

I think they make an awsome tac rifle. They are quick, lite, balance well and they are available in just about any caliber you could ever want. I love my rosi 357 with a 16 inch barrel with my Ruger security six or GP100 on my hip. Interchangeable ammo and a decent punch. I have the same set up with a Rosi 454 cas lever gun (20 inch barrel though) and a ruger balckhawk with interchangeable cylinders. Wtih that set up I can shoot everything from 454 cas hot loads close to 45-70 performance all the way down to wad cutter 45 ACP's
If you couldn't tell I love lever guns so I'm kinda bias.
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Old 04-30-2006, 07:56   #3
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Ya, for some reason Im a big lever fan too. I have a Win 94 .357 carbine. It one of my favorite guns to shoot and im confident that I can hit what Im aiming at 100 yards and under. Ok, not so much a tactical rifle as much as a SHTF utility rifle. I guess what got me started on the "tactical" was Sisk's old ad on their "stopper rifle". It was a Marlin 336 in .30-30 or .44 Mag(I believe they had one for the 45-70 too), all the metal was coated in a non glare finish, with the scout scope mount and had some other cool stuff done to it too. Doing something like that sounds kinda fun, .... but I don't know if I would do it to my .357, its to pretty the way it is. Maybe a .30-30 or .35 Rem.

http://www.siskguns.com/SISK%20RIFLE...ng%20Rifle.htm

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I'v got a Marlin 1894 in .357mag. with a reddot scout scope and a Lyman rec. sight on it. I would not hesitate to grab it, if I heard bumps in the night!!! Light weight, handy, and easy to topoff reload. What more could you ask for!!
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Old 04-30-2006, 17:26   #5
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I have been finding a lot of info talking about cutting the barrel length down to 16 inches in length. I was just wondering what the felt recoil for a 16inch barreld .30-30 or .35 Rem would be? Any comparisons?


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Old 04-30-2006, 17:31   #6
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No appreciable difference. The 16 inch rifle will raise a bit more in recoil than the 20 inch version (been there, done that). You'll lose a round in magazine capacity, of course.
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Old 04-30-2006, 17:55   #7
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Winchester released a scout model 94 shortly before that plant went under. Might be some around.

http://www.winchesterguns.com/prodin...d=119&cat=003C

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Old 04-30-2006, 21:33   #8
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Marlin makes a "youth" model that looks interesting. You can get a 16 in barrel in 30-30. It feels like a pretty quick rifle and is about as long as a 10/22!
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Old 05-01-2006, 05:22   #9
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When you jump down to the 16 inch barrel, do you lose any accuracy or distance? Or would it still be good out to 200 yards?

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A tactical 200yd lever gun? Is there any gun that can be left alone and NOT be made "tactical"? eez, guess unless it's a black gun with all kinds of crap hangin' of it it's just not cool anymore. Gotta be "tactical" with everything now.
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Old 05-01-2006, 18:44   #11
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BlkHawk: They were used as defensive adn offensive guns by all kindsa folks for lots a years. (insert drawl ). These made it into plenty of sadle scabards, gun racks, kitchen corners and other places long before the black rifles of today had their say in the world. Kinda like an anti-black-rifle thing. I love my levers and use them for all kinds of chores. I don't think anyone is going to hang a sure fire 900 light off one on an improvised light rail or put a laser on one. But it would be nice to have a forward short eye relief scope and maybe some kinda small light for those things that go bump in the night here in the sticks.
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My opinion is that if you want something tactical. there are much better guns to start with than leverguns.

Now, I have two lever guns (a 1894 in 44 mag and an 1895 in 450 marlin) and I would not hesitate to grab either one if I felt threatened. They both have XS scout mounts and scout style scopes. They would be fine serving double duty as a home defense gun as they are both short and light and quick handling. My only concern would be overpenetration but then I never really liked that guy next door anyway. I would not however, consider them tactical. Please, don't make a tactical levergun.
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Relax guys,

I don't want to do anything crazy. I just want a 16 inch barrel, different sights, a scout type scope mount with quick detachable scope rings, and a non glare finish. I don't want flash lights, lasers or any other stuff that seems upset you guys. If it makes you feel better, I want to keep the wood, lol. I guess tactical was the wrong word to use, sorry. It just sounds like a fun gun to add to the collection.

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Old 05-02-2006, 15:19   #14
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heres a 357 magnum special edition marlin, kinda tactical i guess?

fairly short for a lever gun 16.5 inch barrel, night sights


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Old 05-02-2006, 15:33   #15
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k this is what i was looking for, heres your real tactical lever guns...





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Old 05-02-2006, 16:19   #16
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Thanks for those pics MIK, those will give me some good ideas! Never thought about the porting before... I wonder how that would affect things. I would definately leave the stock on though.

thanks man!
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no problem, if you want to look at them from there website i believe its at www.wildwestguns.com and they are the bushwackers
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Old 05-03-2006, 17:10   #18
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Is it hard to come by the used .30-30s in the 16 inch? What do they usually run for?

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Don't know about used ones but the new one I saw was around $400 or so. It was BNIB.
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I have checked out those little stainless/lmainte Marlins. Awesome guns but a bit overpriced IMO. Would love one in .45Colt to match up with my stainless Bisleys but alas I've got better things to spend the $600+ on.
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I hear ya,... Im looking for a used .30-30, hoping that I can make a trade or find one in good condition for not to much. Yall ever buy a firearm from GunsAmerica.com?
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Just please don't ruin a good 'ol classic lever-action rifle by cutting it up and painting it and such, OK? Do it with a newer one!

I had thought about trading you my like-new 60's Marlin, but not if your gonna do that to it...
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Naaa... Im not gonna do that. I liked the idea of a 16 inch barreld lever, but after I handled the 336 at the gun shop, I figured I would leave it the way it is. It sholdered pretty easy and carried good in the hand. I already have a compact 94 and decided that it didn't need anything else to improve on it.

Right now I have a severe case of leveritus and seem to need another lever to calm my nerves.

Are you still interested Boogy?

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Well, it's a mute point anyway, my son has laid claim to the Marlin and he would be disappointed if I traded or sold it.

I've been addicted to lever guns all my life, there is only one cure in my opinion.

A Savage Model 99. The best lever-action ever made, IMO. Yes, rather pricey for a nice, older one, but you'll never regret it, or sell it!

Cutting up a 99 would be a mortal sin! Don't risk your very soul, Stillborn!
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Lever guns make great tactical weapons? That must be why so many armies issue them? So many police departments?
Seriously, for defense they are great, but as a tactical weapon, they leave a lot to be desired. Being able to reload them quickly is just one drawback.
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