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Old 12-02-2004, 03:55   #1
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I can't find a non +p load with 158gr GDHP's in 38 special.



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+P being higher pressure loads or max pressure loads. Most regular loads begin at .3 or .4 grains less.

What powder are you using?
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What powder are you using?


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My best 158gr Gold Dot Loads for .38Spcl are:

For 2" Barrel - 3.2gr Win 231

For 4" Barrel - 3.4gr Win 231

My best load for Unique was 4.0gr - but it was NOT a stellar performer accuracy-wise.

One word of advice on loading Gold Dots............. they do NOT like to be shot very fast if you want accuracy. I've found that to be true from .32ACP up to .45ACP rounds. They are usually best loaded just "slightly" hotter than a good lead target load.
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I haven't reloaded with Unique, but for 158 JHP
Lyman says 4.7 - 5.0 grn ( 5.2 being P+), in a 4" barrel
Hornady says 3.9 - 4.8 grns ( 5.2 being P+), in a 4" barrel
Serria says 5.0 - 6.1 grns with Most accurate load at 5.8 grn in a 6" barrel

Don't know why Serria is so high. I would use the other two as they seem more agreed. I would be lerry of the Serria data.
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Thanks, 4.7gr it is.
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Originally posted by plop@Dec 5 2004, 06:12 PM
Thanks, 4.7gr it is.
Since I don't know your reloading experience I'll mention this just incase. When I reload I start with the lower amount of powder, and work up to higher inspecting each case for high pressure signs. I usually shoot 2 groups of 5 using a rest, and good technique. I mark powder amount and type on target, and note when group narrows, then when it widens. In the middle is the most accurate, and forgiving amount of powder for that load. It is very important to watch each case for high pressure signs. When I find high pressure signs on the brass I stop shooting. I shoot at a lesser amount to reduce pressure. Each gun is different so the reloading data is a guide only not a receipt.

If you already know this then this is for a new reloader that may read this post.
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Originally Posted by plop View Post
I can't find a non +p load with 158gr GDHP's in 38 special.



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I use Unique too and use my cast 158 RN bullets only at this point.
The Alliant guide says 5.2 grains max for +p loads.
Alliant Powder - Reloader's Guide

I use these loads in my Ruger SP101 357 magnum.
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38S 158gr Accurate powder no - 2- 3.8 up to 4.2 no -5- 5.4 up to 6.0

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