I don't own, nor have I shot either of these guns but just wanted to ask what attracted you to these two. Just curious. Have you searched for reviews on them? They are usually very helpful. I am particularly impressed with www.gunblastreviews. Good luck in choosing.
I don't own, nor have I shot either of these guns but just wanted to ask what attracted you to these two. Just curious. Have you searched for reviews on them? They are usually very helpful. I am particularly impressed with www.gunblastreviews. Good luck in choosing.
I have seen some YouTube video reviews on each of them.
The reason I have chosen these two are:
Sig 238 Size, build quality, sights.
Walther, Ergonomics, Build quality, design has been around A LONG time.
I really like both of them but cannot buy them both and am having the darndest time deciding!
I don't particularly care for double action defense pistols but I sure like the look and feel of the SIG. I had a Walther TPH 22 a lot of years ago and it was nothing but junk, so I swore off Walthers. I am particularly fond of the little Kahr 380, but you didn't include it in your final, so I assume it's not an option. I too am considering a small 380 and have handled a bunch of them. That is the reason for my interest in your post. Seems everybody is making little bitty 380's now, it is a hard choice. Good luck in choosing.
I currently own a slew of .380's for reasons I am not entirely sure of... but that being said, I much prefer the Sig 238. For comparison, I own a Keltec P3AT, and a Ruger LCP, and have fired about 400 rounds through my Dad's Walther.
The Sig has been reliable with all types of ammo and is pleasant to shoot. Comes with 3 dot night sights if that matters to you. Also comes with a holster, all though not a very high quality one. Only thing I would advise on that gun is to spend a couple extra bucks and get the extended finger rest magazine that Sig offers. Makes the pistol fit my hands much much better. Slightly better concealment with the shorter mag and still very shootable with it, but I just prefer the longer grip for range sessions.
The Walther is obviously a little larger and fits the hand better, but I dislike the trigger on it. I know this is personal preference, so take it for what its worth, but it just seems a little heavy and gritty, especially compared to the Sig.
Both of these guns are a cut above the Keltec and Ruger for fit, finish, and ease of use IMHO, but the price reflects that as well. I think you will be happy either way...
If you're set on .308 then I don't have much to say accept that I had a PPKs for a long time. I loved that gun but hated to shoot it because it hurt too much. For this size gun I don't understand why people overlook the 239 in 9mm?
I had a PPK and loved it. Often wish I had kept it. Compared to some of the more modern compact .380s the Walther is a little heavy. I now have a Ruger LCP and I am completely pleased with it. I can't say much about the Sig except that I have owned a 226 and 229 and they are very high quality pistols.
I had a PPK for about 20 years, a PPK/s for about 5 years, and a Sig P238 for about a week. I totally agree with the comments about the Walther's being kinda gritty feeling in their actions compared to the Sig. Strangely, they seem to "kick" more despite their extra weight.
I sold the PPK to get the PPK/S because I wanted Crimson Trace laser grips. The Walther's are BEAUTIFUL guns and are accurate! Both of mine were/are Stainless. As long as you feed them premium ammo, they are great. However, I had problems with both Walther's digesting cheap ammo. They didn't. All kinds of FTF, FTE, and stove pipes with cheap ammo.
So, I finally decided to pick up the Sig. That thing is SWEEEEEEEEEEEET! It is super smooth, very well made, digests any ammo, feels great in your hand, light by comparison, very pleasant to shoot, has excellent night sights, easily concealable, and is very accurate. What more could you want from a .380 pistol? The PPK/S is now on Gun Broker and I am ordering another Sig today for my wife.
She shot the Sig for the first time yesterday and LOVED it. We fed it 300 rounds, 4 different kinds of ammo without a hiccup. Including about 80 rounds of the leftover 80s vintage Blazer that the original Walther would not digest.
So far, this gun is a winner! We'll see how the reliability is over time.
Have owned both, as a LE backup carried the Walther PPKs as our Dept. got some kind of deal on a bulk purchase. I still own it and it has always worked just fine.
Trigger according to my sister is a little hard to pull on the first DA shot, i never noticed.
The Sig cost more (for me) and is a smoother firing gun. I think you can't go wrong with either but look at both and get the feel and pick what seems right. I like the Corbon DPX rounds.
The main thing that hasn't been mentioned here is that the Sig P238 fires from a locked breech, and the Walther is a blow back action. I have fired both, and the locked action definitely has less felt recoil which made it much more comfortable to shoot in spite of being the smaller weapon.
The Sig is basically a Colt Mustang with improvements. Colt dropped the design & Sig picked it up. (Smart move on Sig's part, dumb move for Colt)
-Bruce
The Diamondback DB9 is $400, smaller and lighter than the PPk, by quite a bit, and hits at least 2x as hard, if you know to use the 100 gr CorBon Powerball, 1300 fps in 3" barrels, for almost 400 ft lbs of power, and real expansion of the jhp. it beats the 380 by a huge margin. look at the 9 oz Keltec 380. if you are going to use a feeble rd, at least have a tiny, really lw gun, so you can ccw it in ways that are not possible with a 9mm, like as a necklace, under longhair on the back of neck, in a wrist holster, etc. typical 380 ammo, when you actually chrono it, offers at best 150 ft lbs,a nd won't expand in flesh. what it does in water or jello is irrelevant.
Sig P238 or Walther PPK?
Kevin
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