Does anyone have a clue about HK VP70Z. It is an 18 shot first ever polymore pistol. I have heard mixed reviews about it. I have located one in near new condition, but I am unable to make up my mind. Some say there is problem with its trigger pull....can some one tell me exactly what that problem is? AN oher concern is something to do with the shadow sights....any elaboration on that?

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Worth buying depends a lot on the price. I did not like the trigger pull that is long and heavy, think of the worst double action revolver you have ever seen and that might be close. Did you look at the front sight? The one I shot was 2 bars with a groove down the center of the ramp, it covered too much of the target for my taste. It did go bang every time the trigger was pulled and it was straight blow back like a big PPK. I am going on memory here, I saw the last one over 20 years ago.

I would get it if it was priced rightas a neat collector piece. I would not replace my carry gun with it. Older discontinued HK's will always go up in value.

The price is about 3000 US dollars, but that is because I am in Pakistan, where a new Glock would cost around 6000. I have not looked at the sights, since the pistol is with someone who lives near Afghan border. He bought it a few years back, but did not shoot it much. What I take from your comments is that it not worth buying as a combat gun, but if one is expanding one's collection that OK. Do you think SIG P226 (a little used) or a HK USP would be a better option?

"The price is about 3000 US dollars, but that is because I am in Pakistan, where a new Glock would cost around 6000." - oneshotonly

Note to self: Do not move to Pakistan.




+1 on the SIG P226 (a little used) or a HK USP

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Outside of the US, I think some of the VP70's will accept a shoulder stock that allows the weapon to do 3 shot bursts.

VP70M have mold settings for the shoulder stock for 3 brust. VP70z will need some gunsmithing , and not to mention finding the stock will be a problem and w/o 3 brust is not an option since lever is on the stock.

for someone that wants Hk pistols yeah, it's worth getting. otherwise... The trigegrs are heavy and not twaekable so you get that heavy pull regardless. It was the first polymer pistol. Mags can be hard/expensive to locate. Were it me in your position, I'd pass for a better suited handgun. I like Hk's and actually am lacking the VP70 model. Average price here...$450-$600 depending on condition and completeness of pkg.

I ended up buying SIG P226 instead and will now look for HK USP if.

Instead of USP I bought HK 2000

VP70z is an excellent gun. MINOR problems are heavy trigger pull and double action only. The very first polymer pistol and made for cold climate with large trigger guard for gloved hand. 9mm 18 round mag. makes for lots of firepower. I am a retired police dept. armorer/gunsmith and have one with 3 mags......NOT for sale. This one is probably a good investment. It is not a target gun but when things go bad, you will not notice the 17 pound trigger pull.

Sorry but this pistol is a pig. It's one of the worst I have ever shot. it is big and clunky, has lousy pointability and balance and the trigger is horrible. Reliability and capacity may be good but there are too many other things sacrificed for that like accuracy. I can't think of too many 9mm's I would choose a VP70Z over. There are literally dozens of better choices.

The VP 70z was made with Police carry in mind.

The long hard pull on the trigger was designed for a quick holster pull.

The purpose was so that you could have the 19th round already in the chamber and could pull the gun from the holster with your finger already on the trigger without having to worry about it going off on your foot, or having to pull back the slide and lose valuable time while chambering a round.

I've had mine for 20 years now and have put hundreds of rounds through it and, even with the hard trigger pull, I can be quite accurate. And for close work with a chambered auto, the firepower is more than sufficient.

Not familiar with the pistol in question but I do have some experience with HKs.

I bought a new USP in .40 S&W in 1999 for 650 bucks from Scheels.

Now they go about 800+ and i've seen no difference in the quality or accuracy (not that it needed it).

Now I know the price of all firearms has gone up and I'm not a pistol guy by any means but why the hell would you spend 800 big ones for a new HK when you can get something equally as good for 600 or less.

The pistol market these days is full of marketing BS and hype IMO.

It was the cats meow when it came out. Really, it was among the ones that paved the way for the Glock

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I've had a VP70 for 25 years. Extremely simple and well made, it tears down in seconds and is accurate. The long trigger pull against the firing pin spring is how this hammerless design fires. Let's just say that mine is not for sale...

$3000?!....and I thought guns were cheap over there.

That is a rip off in the highest degree. I just saw one at a local gun show here for $750 and that was too high.

The trigger sucks....to put it nicely!

Yes, the Sig is a far better choice!!...even the USP beats out the VP70Z. I owned a VP70Z shortly after they hit the market and although the magazine capacity and the ergonomics were great everything else was not.

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