I need a dependable rifle(Bolt action or semi) its gotta fire a .223 or a .308
its gotta be under $2500 and not require a special license to purchase.
Ive been checking out Colt Arms,Springfeild(socom 2 and m1a standard)Ive read here the ak-47 rocks.
I own a yugo SKS and a Ruger Mini 14,Both guns are good but lack something.
Say there was some sorta diasaster or the goverment collapsed,Looters are running rampant,Black water mercs are pushing everyone around.(sorry if this sounds lame but the zombie outbreak makes me sound crazy >=) )If you had to chose a all around rifle (Something to defend your home and take back city block by city block) what would it be??
Personally, I think that for most us, the AK offers very little over the Mini-14 you already own. The AK, I think, is admittedly more reliable under severe conditions, but this isn’t such a consideration for us average civilian owners (who, for the most part, tend to baby our firearms).
I tend to agree with lima-charlie that a 7.62 NATO battle rifle would be an excellent choice for a full-blown SHTF situation, primarily due to the superior penetration of the 7.62 NATO round over the .223. Though I lean more towards the FAL series of rifles (having had a bad experience with a Springfield Armory M1A a few years back) either one, in good working order, would be a fine choice.
Since you have already a SHTF firearm with the SKS and Mini, I would suggest that you buy a nice Remington 700 bolt gun with good optics (my preference is Leupold) in a .308 or .30-06. Total cost is under $1,000 outfitted. I am a Ruger 77 fan but the 700 is known for it's short lock time and superb accuracy. With the extra cash, pickup a Rock Island or Bushmaster if you really need another SHTF gun that takes the accuaracy up several notches. Maybe then try out Highpower Shooting if you got a club nearby to up you skills. In a truly SHTF scenario, a shotgun, bolt or a levergun brings less attention than any "evil black gun". I am not forseeing any real threat from zombies at this time ( machetes work best on them anyway) but IMHO, the biggest threat is weather related or power grid failure that we face. That is unless the canadians begin to launch an attack, one can never really trust them sneaky canucks
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Use that extra money and get you a good chainsaw. Depending on where you live, cutting down a few large trees across roads with eliminate the "drive by" zombie threat.
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Don't spend any extra over the cost of an M1A standard. If you can get a Scout for that, all the better. I'd get the standard and buy ammo, buy ammo, buy ammo, and the sooner the better the way mil surplus prices and supply are going.
Swap-barrel 12ga pump, so you can discourage goblins then go out and pot a goose for dinner. You can add a barrel at a later time if you get the right shotgun. That, the mini, SKS, and a .30 cal rifle should cover almost everything, oh and a .22 of course. Shop smart and spend the savings on ammo ammo ammo ammo.
Here's a thought. Get an AR or Mini 30 in 6.5 Grendel. Now you have a semi auto rifle with a high cap clip that will out range a .308 and is most probably more accurate than the above mentioned Remington. It'll handel and kick like your Mini 14. Oh, I guess Wolf is making Grendel ammo now. That should be enough to keep the monsters at bay.
i wouldnt go with the socom 2. ive kind of preached this for a bit but ill say it again. the damn thing weighs too much. i own one and it makes a great collector piece. go with a standard m1a to get the full benefit of the longer barrel. Im a big fan of the 6.8, but availibilty and cost of ammo is a primary concern. if s@@t hits, god forbid. you want a reliable rifle. the m1a is super reliable and battle proven. its got more punch then youll ever need. i might even lean towards the mini 14 to be honest. you get the reliablity of the m1a action, with the weight of an AR. i know you lose a bit on accuracy, but in an urban combat enviornment your target will be no furter then 100 yards away. if it is, you probably shouldnt engage it anyways.
a lady friend of mine who know of my affinity for all things Zombie sent that to me.. Im pretty sure she picked it up at Barnes and Noble but you could probably get it for a better price on Amazon.. i find some sweet deals on books there pretty regularly.
one thing i really liked about it is it lists as the best zombie gun the M1 and also specifically mentions the mini 14 and 30