Guns Guns Guns Miscellaneous firearms forum

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-10-2006, 18:40   #1
lcf
Registered Member
Points: 4,250, Level: 41 Points: 4,250, Level: 41 Points: 4,250, Level: 41
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Last Achievements
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: ny
Posts: 4
Question Cant decided on gun

I need a dependable rifle(Bolt action or semi) its gotta fire a .223 or a .308
its gotta be under $2500 and not require a special license to purchase.
Ive been checking out Colt Arms,Springfeild(socom 2 and m1a standard)Ive read here the ak-47 rocks.

I own a yugo SKS and a Ruger Mini 14,Both guns are good but lack something.

Say there was some sorta diasaster or the goverment collapsed,Looters are running rampant,Black water mercs are pushing everyone around.(sorry if this sounds lame but the zombie outbreak makes me sound crazy >=) )If you had to chose a all around rifle (Something to defend your home and take back city block by city block) what would it be??
lcf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2006, 20:02   #2
Full Member
Points: 11,336, Level: 70 Points: 11,336, Level: 70 Points: 11,336, Level: 70
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Last Achievements
 
lima-charlie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Amarillo, Texas
Posts: 407
If you had to chose a all around rifle (Something to defend your home and take back city block by city block) what would it be??
I'll bet you get a lot of variance on this one.

For your scenario (and other similar ones) I want a well adjusted M1A Scout, Socom 16, or Socom II.

lima-charlie
__________________
NRA Member

Non sibi, sed patriae.
lima-charlie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2006, 21:30   #3
Full Member
Points: 4,522, Level: 42 Points: 4,522, Level: 42 Points: 4,522, Level: 42
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Last Achievements
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Arizona
Posts: 76
Personally, I think that for most us, the AK offers very little over the Mini-14 you already own. The AK, I think, is admittedly more reliable under severe conditions, but this isnít such a consideration for us average civilian owners (who, for the most part, tend to baby our firearms).

I tend to agree with lima-charlie that a 7.62 NATO battle rifle would be an excellent choice for a full-blown SHTF situation, primarily due to the superior penetration of the 7.62 NATO round over the .223. Though I lean more towards the FAL series of rifles (having had a bad experience with a Springfield Armory M1A a few years back) either one, in good working order, would be a fine choice.
Arizona Mikey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2006, 11:50   #4
Super Member
Points: 23,705, Level: 94 Points: 23,705, Level: 94 Points: 23,705, Level: 94
Activity: 1.5% Activity: 1.5% Activity: 1.5%
Last Achievements
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 6,124
Since you have already a SHTF firearm with the SKS and Mini, I would suggest that you buy a nice Remington 700 bolt gun with good optics (my preference is Leupold) in a .308 or .30-06. Total cost is under $1,000 outfitted. I am a Ruger 77 fan but the 700 is known for it's short lock time and superb accuracy. With the extra cash, pickup a Rock Island or Bushmaster if you really need another SHTF gun that takes the accuaracy up several notches. Maybe then try out Highpower Shooting if you got a club nearby to up you skills. In a truly SHTF scenario, a shotgun, bolt or a levergun brings less attention than any "evil black gun". I am not forseeing any real threat from zombies at this time ( machetes work best on them anyway) but IMHO, the biggest threat is weather related or power grid failure that we face. That is unless the canadians begin to launch an attack, one can never really trust them sneaky canucks
__________________
"I have no issues with people of all types being here, I do have a problem with the more extreme ends of any spectrum trying to dominate and push out moderates and opposites." Bill Plein
gossman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2006, 19:40   #5
Super Member
Points: 30,801, Level: 100 Points: 30,801, Level: 100 Points: 30,801, Level: 100
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Last Achievements
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Western NC
Posts: 1,410
I agree with L-C. M1A Scout would fill the bill nicely.
rugmar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2006, 14:36   #6
lcf
Registered Member
Points: 4,250, Level: 41 Points: 4,250, Level: 41 Points: 4,250, Level: 41
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Last Achievements
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: ny
Posts: 4
thanks

Thanks for the advice everyone,I picked up the springfeild M1A.The gun fills that "spot" the others were lacking.

Melee combat with zombies is a bit risky,Id go with a crowbar if i had 2.Stab um in the eyes (to the brain)or crush there skull.

whats shtf??
lcf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2006, 18:07   #7
Full Member
Points: 11,336, Level: 70 Points: 11,336, Level: 70 Points: 11,336, Level: 70
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Last Achievements
 
lima-charlie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Amarillo, Texas
Posts: 407
sh!+ hits the fan

Congrats on your purchase. I am seriously green with envy.
Share your reports about the weapon with us. I wanna know how it shoots and such.

lima-charlie
__________________
NRA Member

Non sibi, sed patriae.
lima-charlie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2006, 14:06   #8
Full Member
Points: 8,190, Level: 61 Points: 8,190, Level: 61 Points: 8,190, Level: 61
Activity: 0.8% Activity: 0.8% Activity: 0.8%
Last Achievements
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Greenville, S.C
Posts: 64
Use that extra money and get you a good chainsaw. Depending on where you live, cutting down a few large trees across roads with eliminate the "drive by" zombie threat.
__________________
"Aim low boys, they are riding Shetlands"
LAFOYJL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2006, 02:07   #9
Super Member
Points: 23,705, Level: 94 Points: 23,705, Level: 94 Points: 23,705, Level: 94
Activity: 1.5% Activity: 1.5% Activity: 1.5%
Last Achievements
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 6,124
Zombies are dangerous, never underestimate them. Nothing but complete decapitation or listening to Celine Deon can kill them.
__________________
"I have no issues with people of all types being here, I do have a problem with the more extreme ends of any spectrum trying to dominate and push out moderates and opposites." Bill Plein
gossman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2006, 21:07   #10
Moderator Moderator and Super MemberSuper Member
Points: 33,602, Level: 100 Points: 33,602, Level: 100 Points: 33,602, Level: 100
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Last Achievements
 
markw76's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: range-poor, leftard-rich Portland, Orygun
Posts: 7,547
Cool

Don't spend any extra over the cost of an M1A standard. If you can get a Scout for that, all the better. I'd get the standard and buy ammo, buy ammo, buy ammo, and the sooner the better the way mil surplus prices and supply are going.
__________________
. A good anvil never fears The Hammer. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ! Semper Gumby كاف
markw76 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2006, 20:33   #11
Full Member
Points: 4,122, Level: 40 Points: 4,122, Level: 40 Points: 4,122, Level: 40
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Last Achievements
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: billings mt.
Posts: 15
short barrel 12ga. pump.
mt.bronk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2006, 23:04   #12
Moderator Moderator and Super MemberSuper Member
Points: 33,602, Level: 100 Points: 33,602, Level: 100 Points: 33,602, Level: 100
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Last Achievements
 
markw76's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: range-poor, leftard-rich Portland, Orygun
Posts: 7,547
Swap-barrel 12ga pump, so you can discourage goblins then go out and pot a goose for dinner. You can add a barrel at a later time if you get the right shotgun. That, the mini, SKS, and a .30 cal rifle should cover almost everything, oh and a .22 of course. Shop smart and spend the savings on ammo ammo ammo ammo.
__________________
. A good anvil never fears The Hammer. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ! Semper Gumby كاف

Last edited by markw76; 11-02-2006 at 23:06.
markw76 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2006, 19:05   #13
Full Member
Points: 4,461, Level: 42 Points: 4,461, Level: 42 Points: 4,461, Level: 42
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Last Achievements
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 42
Here's a thought. Get an AR or Mini 30 in 6.5 Grendel. Now you have a semi auto rifle with a high cap clip that will out range a .308 and is most probably more accurate than the above mentioned Remington. It'll handel and kick like your Mini 14. Oh, I guess Wolf is making Grendel ammo now. That should be enough to keep the monsters at bay.
hm2 clark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2007, 09:18   #14
Great American
Points: 9,483, Level: 65 Points: 9,483, Level: 65 Points: 9,483, Level: 65
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Last Achievements
 
justinlemieux's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 296
i wouldnt go with the socom 2. ive kind of preached this for a bit but ill say it again. the damn thing weighs too much. i own one and it makes a great collector piece. go with a standard m1a to get the full benefit of the longer barrel. Im a big fan of the 6.8, but availibilty and cost of ammo is a primary concern. if s@@t hits, god forbid. you want a reliable rifle. the m1a is super reliable and battle proven. its got more punch then youll ever need. i might even lean towards the mini 14 to be honest. you get the reliablity of the m1a action, with the weight of an AR. i know you lose a bit on accuracy, but in an urban combat enviornment your target will be no furter then 100 yards away. if it is, you probably shouldnt engage it anyways.

Last edited by justinlemieux; 04-27-2007 at 09:24.
justinlemieux is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2007, 13:22   #15
Moderator Moderator and Super MemberSuper Member
Points: 33,602, Level: 100 Points: 33,602, Level: 100 Points: 33,602, Level: 100
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Last Achievements
 
markw76's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: range-poor, leftard-rich Portland, Orygun
Posts: 7,547
Best to start your customizing after your ammo cache and spare parts considerations are satisfied. Magazines can be considered spare parts.
__________________
. A good anvil never fears The Hammer. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ! Semper Gumby كاف
markw76 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2007, 23:08   #16
Full Member
Points: 5,347, Level: 46 Points: 5,347, Level: 46 Points: 5,347, Level: 46
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Last Achievements
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Jackson Ms
Posts: 174
to completely prepare for the zombie apocolypse may i suggest this book for a a superb resource.



covers every thing you need to know...
even some things i never thought of before.
GaryMalibou is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2007, 08:11   #17
Full Member
Points: 5,119, Level: 45 Points: 5,119, Level: 45 Points: 5,119, Level: 45
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Last Achievements
 
Tbear0574's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 149
Where can i get me one of those?????
Tbear0574 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2007, 11:20   #18
Full Member
Points: 5,347, Level: 46 Points: 5,347, Level: 46 Points: 5,347, Level: 46
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Last Achievements
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Jackson Ms
Posts: 174
a lady friend of mine who know of my affinity for all things Zombie sent that to me.. Im pretty sure she picked it up at Barnes and Noble but you could probably get it for a better price on Amazon.. i find some sweet deals on books there pretty regularly.

one thing i really liked about it is it lists as the best zombie gun the M1 and also specifically mentions the mini 14 and 30
GaryMalibou is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-25-2011, 07:32   #19
Full Member
Points: 302, Level: 6 Points: 302, Level: 6 Points: 302, Level: 6
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Last Achievements
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 11
i recomment socom 16. tried and tested

Tactical Vest | Ballistic Vest | Kevlar Vest | Bullet Vest | Bullet Resistant Vests
civiliansbuybodyarmor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2012, 08:48   #20
Full Member
Points: 9,298, Level: 64 Points: 9,298, Level: 64 Points: 9,298, Level: 64
Activity: 1.8% Activity: 1.8% Activity: 1.8%
Last Achievements
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Iowa
Posts: 627
I'd take the mini in 6.8 SPC if more people had that caliber of gun

Ammo being relatively rare for it though, +1 for the socom 16 or a bullpup .308
__________________
581 Series 18.5'' Mini 14 Ranch Rifle SS
Henry .22 S/L/LR Frontier
Kimber Custom Carry II 1911
Savage Mark II FVT
Pet-Rock is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:44.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.1
All information is copyright by Perfectunion.com unless already under copyright.

This site is Gunny Approved