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Old 11-07-2005, 01:04   #1
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I have heard good and bad thing's about them, however I do want one to play around with at the range. There has to be 1 of them that's the best out of all of them, so which one is it? Whichever one is the best ill buy, even if it doesnt work all the time im willing to be patient if it requires precise fitting to work or something. Let me know, thx.

http://www.gungarage.com/rapidfire.htm
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I have seen exactly 1 that worked. It was a BMF activator and it was on a 10/22. This was a friends gun and he didn't remove it from the gun after he got it right. They are not really plug and play. You have to tinker with them until you get it right but it seems like once you get it right it stays there.

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Does anyone know of anywhere else, that they sell these? Specifically the Tac Trigger...

I don't know how reputable this 'gungarage' is, as they have about five different website addresses, for the same thing. I can't find their shipping prices, and their website is very poorly designed.

Has anyone ever ordered from them?

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Old 11-07-2005, 12:12   #4
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I changed my mind about the Tac Trigger....

"TO FIRE: Cock the rifle and point the rifle at the intended target. Insert your trigger finger in between the TRIGGER LEVER and the gun's trigger. Initiate the shot sequence by first pushing forward on TRIGGER LEVER with your finger. When the gun fires immediately pull back on the gun's trigger. Two quick accurate shots should result. By doing this repeatedly a continuous burst of fire will result. With a little practice this will yield a firing rate of 600-700 controllable and accurate shots per minute."

You have to press the trigger twice, manually, so it all depends on how fast your finger is.


The Auto Burst seems to do what you want, though.

3. FULL AUTO TYPE FIRE: Lightly squeeze your gun's trigger. The lighter the squeeze, the faster the rate of fire.

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If you really want to burn through a bunch of ammo, and not hit anything, but make full auto noise, learn to bump. Bumping is the exact same thing and you do not need a 30.00 gadget. I had one of the old "hellfire" do hickys and never got it to work. Then I found out it was nothing but a "bump enabler". I learned to bump, got it out of my system and that was it. I had no desire to attract attention to myself at the range, (I like to go un-noticed) and couldnt afford to feed it. You can bump at a full auto rate with anything that has a decent trigger and enough recoil. Be warned!! While some can control what looks like a shoulder bump to hit nearly all 30 rounds into a beach ball sized target at 25 yrds, most can not. It is extremly dangerous, because the rounds go wildly down range. Dont do it unless you have a mountain for a backstop.

Full auto was cool when it was the Uncle's ammo. Now that I have to pay for it, not as cool. I like little tight groups at 100, 200, and 300 yards.
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Old 11-07-2005, 12:29   #6
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Swordslinger, I'm assuming you're talking about the Tac Trigger one? The Auto Burst one seems to be different..

http://militaryoptics.com/TRIGGER%20ACTIVA...URST%20INST.htm

Take a look at that, and tell me what you think. Supposed to fire faster the lighter you squeeze it.

Also, I think I found a good place to order it (finally.)

http://www.deltaforce.com/catalog/uniquetr...gersystems.html

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The BMF is a crank type system and it seems to work well on the 10/22 although there were a couple of Norrel full auto 10/22's we were also shooting and it didn't compare.

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Originally posted by treedawg@Nov 7 2005, 02:45 PM
The BMF is a crank type system and it seems to work well on the 10/22 although there were a couple of Norrel full auto 10/22's we were also shooting and it didn't compare.

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I wouldn't be very interested in a crank fire, and the norrel is $8,000.. Is the auto burst a piece of garbage, also?

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Old 11-07-2005, 13:20   #9
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Originally posted by Ruger22C+Nov 7 2005, 03:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Ruger22C @ Nov 7 2005, 03:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-treedawg@Nov 7 2005, 02:45 PM
The BMF is a crank type system and it seems to work well on the 10/22 although there were a couple of Norrel full auto 10/22's we were also shooting and it didn't compare.

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I wouldn't be very interested in a crank fire, and the norrel is $8,000.. Is the auto burst a piece of garbage, also?

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If you see a Norrel for $8000.00 you need to jump on it.

I think they are closer to $10,000.00 today if you can believe that.

It makes my Norrel that I bought for a little under $6000.00 a few years ago with many extras look that much nicer

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Old 11-07-2005, 13:30   #10
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Originally posted by treedawg@Nov 7 2005, 03:20 PM
If you see a Norrel for $8000.00 you need to jump on it.
I'll start counting my pennies .

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I tried a Tac Trigger on my Mini, and after an hour of fiddling, I couldn't get it to work, not a single round. Threw it away, waste of $30 or whatever it cost at the gunshow.
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Old 11-07-2005, 18:22   #12
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Originally posted by kkina@Nov 7 2005, 08:14 PM
I tried a Tac Trigger on my Mini, and after an hour of fiddling, I couldn't get it to work, not a single round. Threw it away, waste of $30 or whatever it cost at the gunshow.
The Tac Trigger didn't even sound good, in my opinion.

I can't tell if the Auto Burst is the same basic thing or not, though? Do you still have to just move your finger fast?

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Old 03-29-2007, 19:27   #13
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I have a BMF activator and the GAT trigger.
Both are handcranks, both have their place.

The BMF is rotated by hand while the GAT trigger is rotated by the tip of your trigger finger by use of a thimble like insert on the crank arm.

The BMF rotates and shoots smoothly.

The GAT rotates choppy and shoots choppy but does shoot rapidly even though.

The BMF will only hold onto a .22lr gun because it holds on by two plastic screws that wont mar your finish and is open on the side it inserts onto the trigger guard. So if you put it on a gun with any recoil, it will pop off.

The GAT is not only retained by a side plate, but also the bottom adjustment screws to retain position on the trigger guard. in other words, recoil will not make it fall off, but 'might' make it shift if not tightened down hard enough. You will most likely scratch up your trigger guard with this gadget. I only use it on my AR-15 with a plastic trigger guard which I can replace for $5 or less so I dont care.

The next gadget I bought was the Autoburst.

This device 'did' work...

But...

It was 'always' going out of adjustment.

The cheap as hell sheet metal flap was always bending out of position for the sweet spot. I would pull the trigger slowly and then as I did the flap ahead of the trigger finger from the angle my finger would go in pulling the trigger would push into it. In doing so, the flap would reset the trigger under recoil by pulling it back and the trigger finger with same said pressure which is 'light' and just enough to release the hammer, would pull it again.

After a couple full auto bursts, it would stop. I would have to take it off, bend it back into shape and reattach it, LAME!

The metal block that tightens onto the trigger guard had to be exactly under the tip of the trigger. You draw an imaginary line where the pin for the trigger on the receiver is and that is the axis point for this device to work. If it isnt exact, it wont work at all.

If your trigger pull is more than 3.5 lbs, it will not work. The tension is too much for that flap to compensate, but they only say in the instructions that the trigger must be light, and not how light.

I also had it fall apart into pieces on me twice while firing from the oscillation.

Another feature of the Autoburst: It beats the living hell out of the front of your trigger finger.

I had the Hellfire until I figured out the 'only' gun that needs one is the SKS.
The SKS has a poor trigger return spring and makes it very hard to bumpfire them. Some are easier than others and some seem like it is impossible to bump. That is the only time a hellfire is needed, and even then you can use a rubber band.
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The TAC TRIGGER is garbage, mearly a gimmic if you ask me.. I bought one and gave it to a friend after messing with it for a while. Bump firing is more effective to me.... in fact I can bump fire mighty fast while shooting lefty with the stock under my armpit.. normal fire i have to shoot righty.

(my bump method is not accurate, but sounds hella cool)
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The only one that I really liked is the Akins device that is now a spring less paper weight in the safe here after ATF reversed its position on it. I have GAT that works well for a crank device and a A.S. IV that returns the trigger faster for bumping. I can make yo a good deal if you want one of these.
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does anybody know of a trigger system that will make my ak full auto just by pulling the trigger?

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Originally Posted by akkid View Post
does anybody know of a trigger system that will make my ak full auto just by pulling the trigger?
Hmmm, trolling question? Read the AUP, it talks about these kind of questions
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Old 11-26-2008, 23:31   #18
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AKKID,

That is an NFA regulated item, you have to pay a $250 transfer tax, find a seller, get a license from the ATF, for $1,000 every 4 years? And then buy the item.

Good luck (No really, I wish you good luck - it is an unconstitutional regulation.) getting that.
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Old 11-26-2008, 23:34   #19
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I don't think it's necessarily illegal, Gossman. He can get a signature from the Chief of Police, send in a forum to the ATF and pay a heavy tax, and get one legally.. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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You are correct, it can be done. I am just not too sure about the post, it seems to be in an old thread, not even in the AK section, and smacks of being a troll. If I am wrong akkid, forgive me, maybe I am just too distrusting today.
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