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Old 01-21-2003, 06:28   #1
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If you are a member of AARP you may want to consider dropping your affiliation to them. They believe in and promote gun control. If you go to the AArp web site and ask them where they stand on gun control they will tell you that they are in favor of it and use their membership totals to contact legislators to try to have more gun control laws inacted. They say that thier membership is in favor of it. I do not think that most of thier members are aware of this stance. Since thier main ads are on insurance, eating, motel discounts.
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Old 01-21-2003, 17:06   #2
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You bring up a good point, Indiana.

I have been shredding my AARP solicitations for quite some time now. Don't be too surprised with their claims about member support though. I tend to believe that they have a predominently liberal membership as witnessed by their opposition to reasonable tort reform, and support for Hillaries grand schemes on health care.
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Old 01-23-2003, 16:51   #3
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Thanks guys, I've been ignorant!

Joined six years ago when I turned fifty, have not even asked for a resturant discount. They'll not get another renewal and I'll help spread the word at other sites, hell everywhere!

I had no idea. Feel pretty dumb about now.
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Old 01-23-2003, 17:24   #4
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AARP: Association for Ancient and Rusty People
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Old 01-24-2003, 07:28   #5
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May be old at 56 to some of the youngsters here, but not rusty.
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Old 01-26-2003, 15:46   #6
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Outdoor,

I'm 24, but don't typically fit in with people of my own age. My wife is 31, most of my friends are between 30-75. I figure that you know I was just teasing, but wanted to make it clear just in case. It did remind me to tell this story, though.

I was talking to a good friend of mine today, and he's very close to turning 68. He's been an athlete and coach his whole life, and is still very active and in better shape than a lot of people half his age. He went on an African safari about 18 months ago, and hunts and fishes pretty constantly since he retired.

I've never heard him complain about a physical ailment before, but today he mentioned that he was going to have to have hemmeroids removed. With a perfectly straight face he told me "This growing old isn't for sissies!" I'll remember that until the day I die.
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May not amount to much, but when I receive there self addressed envelopes I return it to them with a brief note that I'm not interested as long as they support gun control which I consider an infrigement on my god given rights and is confirmed in our Constitution. I'm sixty and it cost them for my reply not me. Been doing this for apx. ten years, as I've never been a member.
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Old 01-27-2003, 10:52   #8
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No offence taken Doc. And your friend is probably right.

BTW, I did email AARP this morning with a direct question about their policy, no responce as yet.
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Still waiting a day later to get a responce on the e-mail. Sent a second request this morning.

Then phoned, rep. advised me "yes, they do support the Bradt Bill!

Yes, they support assult weapons ban.

She could not give me an answer when I asked how they polled their membership about such decisions. Said I would get a written responce in about five days.

I'll update this thread when I here from them. Also sent an additional e-mail requesting my membership be canceled!

Have posted these comments at the Gunbroker site, and intend to spread the word at every opportunity!

Galls me to find out I was an uninformed accomplice!
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Hey DocWagon, the reason you don't feel confortable with people your age is because you are "Wise behond your years". thanks for the pearls of wisdom: AARP: Association for Ancient and Rusty People ---"This growing old isn't for sissies!" I can use these (BTW I'm more than Twice your age). Here is the pearl I got from a prospector in Alaska. "Know what your going after, and bewilling to pay the price!" It has worked for me over the years.
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outdoortexas, don't even think your dumb. You can belong to a org
thinking they're on the up and up, then someone mentions that the org
supports a certain cause they prefer to keep quiet. It happens
all the time. If ya want to know what dumb is. all you have to do is look towrads California.

This whack state elected Grey Davis not once but TWICE!! If that
doesn't fit "Stupid is as stupid does" I don't know what will. If
it weren't for the fact I'm caring for my last parent who needs to
stay close to Kasier Hospital, I'd be in Wyoming.

First and last comes family!!

Gob bless Columbia and her crew.
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Old 02-01-2003, 15:22   #12
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Oh I've sure done dumber things, worst part of that is I knew what I was doing. 'Course that was when I was younger!

As for the AARP deal, I just feel violated. I know I can't really hurt their organization, but I'm sure going to try by spreading the word.
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My wife tells me I'm as grumpy as a 80 yeay old man does that count!
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Old 02-08-2003, 06:36   #14
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Here's AARP's reply.


Thank you for contacting your AARP headquarters on the issue of gun
control. We appreciate hearing from you.

The AARP policymaking process is a long one, beginning in September
and continuing through February annually. AARP's National Legislative
Council thoughtfully develops each policy after reviewing the pros and
cons and makes recommendations to the Board. Public policies are
reconsidered and voted anew each year. Input from members like you,
along with other members' suggestions, are carefully reviewed and
contribute to establishing AARP priorities.

At this time, our policymaking process results indicate that a large
majority of our members support careful handgun control measures.
Therefore, AARP continues to support measures to control the
availability of handguns. Some of the rationale includes the
following facts: Handguns continue to present a serious threat to
citizens of all ages. Handguns are a leading cause of accidental
injury and death, especially for children. Handguns are frequently
used to commit violent crimes. U.S. Census Bureau figures show year
after year that handguns are responsible for two out of three of
murders. In 1999 (the latest figures available), 28,874 deaths were
due to firearm injuries. At a time when having enough resources to
provide adequate healthcare for older Americans is a special concern,
the medical costs of treating gunshot victims exceeds $1 billion a
year.

The prevalence of random violence featuring handguns in some
neighborhoods has resulted in numbers of older people becoming virtual
prisoners in their homes. Increasingly, families are suffering the
loss of children and grandchildren who are the victims of violent
crimes and senseless shootings.

AARP policy does not preclude gun ownership for responsible citizens.
Our policy states:

"The federal government must continue to control the availability of
handguns and semiautomatic and automatic weapons. Congress should
reinstate the Brady law's five-day waiting period and should leave in
place the assault weapons ban. States should enact legislation that
prohibits the possession of handguns by juveniles, requires adults who
own handguns to keep them away from juveniles, and prohibits the
possession of guns by convicted domestic abusers."


I hope this information has been helpful. While you may disagree with
the Board on this particular policy, we hope that many other issues,
objectives, and services of AARP so beneficial to older Americans
encourage you to remain a valued member of the association. We
appreciate your participation.

Please do not hesitate to contact us if there is any way your
headquarters staff may be of assistance in the future. Thank you
again for taking the time to get in touch. It is always a pleasure to
respond to the concerns of a member.

Esther
Member Service
Member@aarp.org


Visit the AARP Website at www.aarp.org/events to learn more about
AARP's National Event, Life@50+: A Celebration of You, taking
place Sept. 5-7, 2003 in Chicago
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Old 02-08-2003, 14:45   #15
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One thing about statistics and numbers is that thay can always be manipulated to favor the desired result, especially when extreme bias is involved.

The fact remains AARP does not support our (yours, mine, AND their) Second Ammendment Rights! It is anyone's right to give up their rights, but please don't try to take mine from me.

Sadly, the leading cause of death of children under 5 in the Phoenix, AZ area is drowning. Is pool control next?
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Old 02-08-2003, 15:04   #16
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AZ,
that's what made me so mad about all this, NEVER have they sent me a questionaire, etc. asking me my opinion.
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Old 02-08-2003, 19:06   #17
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I'm not surprised, Outdoor! They never inteviewed me when the Clinton's were President either "We are the President" - Hillary, of course said that.

I wasn't part of the 60 some % of people who thought we should "give Sadamn another chance" neither.

If you have a preferred outcome you desire, you know who to ask to get the answers to support your position. So much for polling validity.

To quote Walter Chronkite- "and that's the way it was, and you are there".
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Here is one of the things that I like to do. I return their pre stamped envelope with a join up card filled in with a name that I have perloined from one of my favorite authors leading characters, lets say this months is Jubulan Sackett. The Street is real, the Zip code is real, The town is real, the address well that may be just an empty field. And I quess that they send their new members packet there and then get it returned and have to pay for that also. Sometimes just the envelope with a note on why I would not join their group. No I do not sign anything with my name.
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