It sounds like you are getting a 17s or have one. I bought myself one for my own personal birthday gift; last JULY . Still lovin' and sentimentally attached to my 187 series Ranch Rifle tho.. Back to business ...... you are right 8.5 lbs. or 9 with a little scope. Not too heavy.
until your gun hating neighbor calls the cops on you
wish I could go for a beach run with my body armor, full mags, and rifle.
but alas... the attention it would get would be uhhhh... undesirable.
Make it a charity event. Recruit other like minded nuts and raise money for Wounded Warriors or some such. Heck, call it the Full Battle Rattle Beach Run and have the press come give you free publicity.
Weight an issue for some in a 308? Here's one answer: DPMS AP4. 7 1/4 Lbs. Comes with a Miculek comp. And that comp makes anything sound loud! Light, loud and lovely. What more could you ask for except maybe a M1A SOCOM? One can have their cake and eat it too. As ya get a little older a couple of pounds ain't that fun carrying in the woods. And some times you don't have to give up too much. Went from a 12 to a 20 slug gun and the deer don't know the difference. 556 vs the 308 though, 200 yard chuck gun vs a round that'll take down an elk. There the extra knock down power is worth every ounce.
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Patton, George S. "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country.
He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."
Nope!
Been using AG-3F1 (HK G3A5 with G3A4 stock) for ages, weighs in at approx 10 lbs clean, 11-12 lbs with optics and B&T rails.
Someone needs to bulk up a bit methinks...
Controllable too, if ya know what you're doing.
Check this:
Not me, I prefer semi auto fire (it's a buddy of mine, to be fair, he's just having a bit of fun), but it is quite controllable with a little bit of practice.
Rifle no, it's the ammo that starts to be. Yes I know real men who have their vests loaded up with twelve 20 rnd mags waiting for the apocalypse. I've found eight to be challenge if I still want to carry my home on my back plus water. Of course a side arm is a necessity and any connoisseur of 308 battle rifles would not be caught dead with a handgun caliber under .45, so the 1911 or double stacked .45 gets worn. 45 ACP weight adds up, especially in twelve rnd HK USP mags. A hundred and eighty rounds can go fast in a firefight while nine 30rnd mags of 7.62x39 or 5.56 makes more sense if you have to hump, run and gun. Now if you get to ride into battle, a FAL with twelve mags makes a lot of sense. Full powered battle rifles can control a lot of ground.
I'm a bigger is better kinda guy to, but lets face it at any giving point one is going to have to cover the other and that is a fact. One man is not going to be able to defend what is his alone with or without multiple platforms.
My son is a big man. He carried a M240 in Afghanistan and won't talk about the Tallybans (miss spelled on purpose) that aren't here anymore. He is not Infantry, he is comm, but he's big and strong so he got the nod. He loved it and used it to his advantage. Much heavier than any a 7.62 weapon, but he managed. Got into a six hour battle with them f'ers, he lived and they got their just reward (whatever that might be).
I preferred the m249 myself and always elected to trade to it if it wasn't issued to me (which was rare) Some people on here don't realize some units will work with you on choices even when your not infantry so carefull you don't get the trolls after you. Anyway I seemed to shoot those better than the m16 or m4 and didn't have to worry about failures as much if at all.
DH1633PM, Thanks for raising a boy that sent our nations enemies to the great beyond. It doesn't matter if he used a 7.62x51, 5.56x45, or a .22LR.
Ditto to that, despite what kiwi thinks perhaps we did do something for the common man on the street either way we served our time and don't disrespect those who didn't so they shouldn't disrespect those that did. Anyway I think most big caliber weapons will remain heavy till they can find some new age material that is light and can handle high pressures//stress
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