Just a heads-up. A group buy on new production .22LR conversion kits is going on over at FALfiles.
Short version: barrel liner, bolt mechanism and 1 mag will run $495 (more if volume goes up).
Now we can afford to shoot our FALs as much as they deserve!
Details (including pix), plus link to where you can sign up for the group buy: The FAL Files Forums - New Production .22 FAL Conversion Kit Project
Disclaimer: not my project, but I think it's cool enough to share the info with everyone.
Given the tremendous diff in recoil between 308 and .22lr, and the range limitation of the .22, and the stiff price, I really have my doubts about the return on this investment. $150 on a Ciener .22 unit for the AR, ok, but better yet, $100 for used one, proven reliable and accurate, with a 30 rd mag. :-) then you can't lose, and since the 223 has about half as much recoil as the 308, and almost all of it is gone if you add a suppressor to the AR, now the 22 unit practice truly will result in 223 ability, especially if an optical sight is used.
Given the tremendous diff in recoil between 308 and .22lr, and the range limitation of the .22, and the stiff price, I really have my doubts about the return on this investment. $150 on a Ciener .22 unit for the AR, ok, but better yet, $100 for used one, proven reliable and accurate, with a 30 rd mag. :-) then you can't lose, and since the 223 has about half as much recoil as the 308, and almost all of it is gone if you add a suppressor to the AR, now the 22 unit practice truly will result in 223 ability, especially if an optical sight is used.
Not trying to convince anyone to buy one, simply noting their pending availability for those who are interested. For those who are not interested, don't buy one. I agree that the same $ would buy lots of other, more practical guns; I have them already. That's not really the point, however.
Once the basic firearms requirements have been fulfilled (rimfire rifle and pistol, centerfire rifle and pistol, and a shotgun), we've moved from "need" to the realm of "want", and cost efficiency can (and usually does) get outweighed by other considerations.
I like my FALs and ARs, and *want* to be able to shoot them at the convenient local indoor range, which means getting a rimfire (or pistol caliber) conversion, despite it being cost inefficient. A dedicated .22 LR upper for an AR-15 is really not a cost efficient investment, either. But it's loads of fun, which makes it worth the money to me. I suspect the FAL conversion will be much the same.
.22lr? Why not make at least a conversion to shoot cheap .30 cal handgun ammo...but why bother? If I need a .308 then???? Kev is right! Just put a FAL looking kit on your 10/22 and keep the price and practice gun cheap. How about a .308 chamber insert for .22lr? A ten round clip and ten of the inserts are way cheaper....if I ever needed a cheap thrill.
Not a FAL well the report and recoil will tell you that. This would be like getting ED on purpose!
Okay PigBat I hear you there. No offense. I would just get one of those tacticool AR styled .22s. If they can do that for under $300, Why not a FAL body on a .22? Are you after cheap practice with a similar or same weapon system? That I get. The price not so much! A .22lr will never=FAL! It would be the same as a Corvette vs Chevette both being vettes???
Just a heads-up. A group buy on new production .22LR conversion kits is going on over at FALfiles.
Short version: barrel liner, bolt mechanism and 1 mag will run $495 (more if volume goes up).
Now we can afford to shoot our FALs as much as they deserve!
Details (including pix), plus link to where you can sign up for the group buy: The FAL Files Forums - New Production .22 FAL Conversion Kit Project
Disclaimer: not my project, but I think it's cool enough to share the info with everyone.
I know hard work went into the kit! Many props! The thing looks like it shoots good to and it has the sexy FAL body....maybe if you brought a kit here and let me shoot yours 1st you could make a sale or a friend or both!!
I would at least buy you lunch! and a box of .22lr ammo peace! I really like the outside of the box thinking and I love your enthusiastic zeal for the FAL!
Your a FAL brother take no offense! I would cover your 6 with a .22lr FAL anytime. Not your project? The offer still stands!
no issue with your enjoying it in 308 , its primary design and intent is still its biggest draw for me as well ,
but these conversions are not a 'new invention' they existed before , almost the begining , developed to allow for inexpensive training and practice , in the big picture your sleeping with your sister comment - while accepted in the vain it was delivered , is not quite accurate and mooted by its original purpose ,
its a conversion unit , it does nothing irreversable and you can with a few invested moments [about what you spend cleaning it] shoot either 22lr or 308/762x51 ,
Kevin
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