FN-FAL Talk Tech Talk about the Fabrique Nationale FAL and it's variants.

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Old 05-25-2009, 08:22   #1
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Any DSA StG58 owners here?

Just put one on layaway and was wondering what kind of accuracy you guys have been getting. I'll be using handloads. I already know it's not a match rifle, just wondering what to expect.
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I have the SA-58 with premium cryo'ed barrel. They really aren't tack drivers but the DSA guns are excellent rifles none the less. I get about 3 " groups bagged and benched from 100.
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Old 09-22-2009, 04:21   #3
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The newer StGs have new US made barrels on them. I don't know how they stack up against the Austrian surplus barrels used in the past. The Austrian barrels were top-notch.
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Originally Posted by squid8286 View Post
The newer StGs have new US made barrels on them. I don't know how they stack up against the Austrian surplus barrels used in the past. The Austrian barrels were top-notch.
They don't - The Austrian (Steyr) barrels are unequaled by anything other than a high dollar custom turned barrel from a blank - I just bought a mint matching # STG kit & I've had a few DSA Type 2 receivers on order for months, can't wait to build it!
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Originally Posted by HILLBILLY7.62 View Post
They don't - The Austrian (Steyr) barrels are unequaled by anything other than a high dollar custom turned barrel from a blank - I just bought a mint matching # STG kit & I've had a few DSA Type 2 receivers on order for months, can't wait to build it!
I've found that the Austrian barrels are more accurate than I am. I believe what you say about comparing them to a custom barrel. I wouldn't trade an StG barrel for anything else, even if the Steyr barrel isn't brand new.
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I have 2 FALs. One is an STG 58 which is basicaly a Austrian parts gun built by DSA. The other is a DSA build with the medium contour barrel. The medium contour barrel is worth every extra penny you pay for it, it puts the rifle within reach of MOA territory. This barrel is distinctly superior to the Austrian barrels. The STG 58 is a battle rifle, the medium contour DSA is a precision rifle, albeit one with all of the FAL battle rugged features. I can get not quite MOA groups at 100 meters (1.1"), but then it gets better at 200, and holds MOA accuracy out to 300 meters, and excellent battle accuracy past that. With a DSA built FAL with either the medium contour or the heavy barrel you own the real estate out to an honest 800 meters. There are precision rifles that will do better of course, but outside of the FNAR or the odd M1A, not one of them is a semi auto that can keep cranking rounds out till you run out of loaded mags.
My STG 58 is 1.7 MOA at 100 meters, and will hold close to that way out there, I have not fired it at more than 600, and probably will never have to(hopefully).
I have not had experience with FALs outside of those 2 but I am told that Imbel is good also, and the grail of the FALs is the FN build rifle, although I do not see how one could do much better than the DSA rifles.
Of course if you want a precision FAL you give up the flash suppression and the other mil type stuff hanging off the barrel end.
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I have a DSA Steyr barrel FAL, and I have noticed that if I shoot handloads in it that are 168gr it shoots the best. The production 168gr rounds do ok but your regular surplus stuff and Winchester Walmart rounds are pitiful.
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Originally Posted by CXL View Post
Just put one on layaway and was wondering what kind of accuracy you guys have been getting. I'll be using handloads. I already know it's not a match rifle, just wondering what to expect.
An SA58 can be a match rifle if you configure it with a free-floated, heavy match barrel and either have a trigger job performed or have a "set" or "speed trigger" installed; DS Arms does both and I highly recommend choosing one or the other. Mine is an Israeli FAL with a heavy Badger match barrel and consistently shoots under 1 MOA, and sometimes 0.5 MOA, when I use Black Hills match ammo. Note: I use match-grade iron sights, as well. The rifle is all blackened stainless steel and weighs 14 lbs. empty.

PS: I also added a magpul PRS2 adjustable stock. And yes, this rifle cost over $3000, but I REALLY wanted one for high power competition.

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The medium contour barrel I mentioned above from DSA is a match barrel and has no stuff hanging off the end , it does have ports machined into the barrel itself, but they do not degrade accuracy in any way. DSA offers 2 match type triggers one of which is a "set" trigger-which I do not like, the other is simply a much better trigger than usual for an FAL which I really like.
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My SA58 is averaging about 1 - 1.5 inch groups at 100 yards with open sights.

Hopefully when I get a cope that group can get a little tighter
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Originally Posted by Kevin View Post
My SA58 is averaging about 1 - 1.5 inch groups at 100 yards with open sights.

Hopefully when I get a cope that group can get a little tighter
You don't need a scope with that grouping. That's as good as many match rifles....with scopes.
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Originally Posted by Sarge45 View Post
You don't need a scope with that grouping. That's as good as many match rifles....with scopes.
Yea, but when your deer hunting, those sights fade away as the sun starts to go down.

I thought about getting some tritium sights, but for about the same price I can get a scope.

I will probably get something like a redfield 3-9x40 for deer season, and I was thinking about an eotech for the off season and hog hunting.
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Just make sure you get a DSA scope mount and a decent set of scope rings, and you should be all set.
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