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Old 02-24-2008, 21:21   #1
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Need help with turk mauser

I have the old turk mauser out. I'm looking at her with a cut down stock that stops just before the last barrel band. The original owner sold me it for 100 bucks a year ago and now I am reaching to put a scope on it, sand the stock, bend the bolt,level the action to the stock (bed the stock). I have the sanding somewhat done. The action is completely cleaned of any cosmo (man that was a pain). How should I start my approach on bedding the rifle? Also, what would be a good scope to put on this old gal?
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Hey Mosin, If you are going to do the scout type setup, I have the B-square mount that replaces the rear sight. Yours for the cost of shipping. If not, I would not go with 3-9 as I did, but probably 2-7 like I am planning. I had to use High ring in order to use a 40mm obj scope. It is just too high for me. I don't plan on using it over 300 yards anyway, so I do not need quite that much magnification. I would use a quality optic though. That ol 8mm can beat them up.

I got all the cosmo out of my stock by using brakekleen. Spray it on, soak for a minute wipe it off. Repeat, repeat, repeat. It does suck out that oil though. You will have to get it out if you want to bed the rifle, or that cosmo will make the bedding release. I chose rosewood colored stain. I like it anyway.....
Here is a pic or two of mine, still under construction.......
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One more thing, if you have not noticed this one is a yugo.......

This one here could not hit the broad side of the state when I got it. Turns out, it was copper fouled beyond belief. I went to meijers and bought a bottle of ammonia. Wet patch, soak, dry patch. Took a week to get it all out. With decent ammo, it shoots 1.25" or better @ 100. No bedding, no trigger, just the scope.
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Verge, thanks for the replies. I decide I am going to go this route on friday. I'm picking up the russian captures.

http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/W...ser_Rifle.html

I lover mausers. Yours looks like a hoot to shoot. I'm going to clean up the stock on the turk and zero it in. I'll use the "russian" mauser to mess around with, but I promise not to destroy anything historical with it.
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Great choice. I love mausers. I did not feel bad about modifying this one, cause, it is just a yugo. No real history other than it spent 50 years sitting in cosmoline. If it were anything else, I do not think I would have touched it.
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Verge, would doing anything to modify these russian captures, would it ruin the value of the rifle? I don't know since they put proof markings to say that they are captured rifles. I just can't wait till that nice paycheck that is free from bills for this week comes my way.
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If you do anything permanent, you ruin it's value in the eyes of a collector, and you are not going to get much for it from someone just looking to waste ammo. I would have to say yes, you would ruin it's "price"
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Thanks Verge. Once again your insight in most welcomed from someone's collection that is growing. I've been looking to stack up the ammo as well. As the yugo "sniper" ammo looks like good brass to use. Thanks.
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As for 8mm brass, buy the sizing die that turns .30-06 brass in to 8X57. RCBS has one for about $35. It is worth every penny. How many time do you go to the range and see piles of -06 laying around?
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It's been a while since I was at the range. Last time two young men and an old man were carrying M-14s. All they had was .308. I took most of that into my hold along with my .303. I've never reloaded before as I still need to start on the .303. From time to time you see someone carry their garand up here (i love them ol' rifles). I pick up the mauser in the morning and will post picks of the cosmo love fest. Then after picks of her all cleaned up along with her dates and codes.
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I have a turk with no rifling left on the last four inches of the barrel i wanted to cut mine down also. I wanted to put receiver aperture sight and front fire sight. I checked the head space first before i started it has excessive head space now i guess i am going to sell her for parts.

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Originally Posted by Der Verge View Post
As for 8mm brass, buy the sizing die that turns .30-06 brass in to 8X57. RCBS has one for about $35. It is worth every penny. How many time do you go to the range and see piles of -06 laying around?

I have been told you can use the 8x57 resizer die to do this as well,
or do you have to have a special die for this.
IM sooo confused now.
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You can just use a 8mm die, but you have to trim before, and after the initial sizing......
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Originally Posted by Der Verge View Post
You can just use a 8mm die, but you have to trim before, and after the initial sizing......
To take this one step further........you can also use cases for other cartriges to morph them to your needs. As I understand it, the .30-06 was loosely developed based on the 8 X 57 case, and there are several cases that were in turn based originally on the .30-06. (.270 Win, .25-06, 280 Rem, and so-on.

I've used all of the above to make 7.7 Jap cases with great success, and would recommend it to anyone who takes the proper safety and quality control precautions you should with any reloading project.

Make sure you have a fool-proof method of keeping the remade cases separate from anything they could get confused with. Also, I wouldn't use them for much other than target practice loads because internal dim's may differ between the several original calibers and may affect accuracy somewhat.
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