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Old 05-25-2009, 18:18   #26
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Originally Posted by copen View Post
Wanna share other info,stock,bipod etc.?
I've got a Finn 27 w/oct. rec. and been thinkin about doin something like that.
Just can't decide for sure if I wanna.
Your M/N ees loookin goot.
Hello,

Well the stock is an ATI sporter, the bipod is a Harris. I did the trigger work myself as well as the camo. I didn't go crazy with the pattern on this gun though.....lol I normally shoot surplus ammo with it and get good results however I shoot alot of winchester ammo so I can reload it. I use .308 bullets and it shoot really well with that size.

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Old 05-25-2009, 18:47   #27
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Originally Posted by hawkeye36 View Post
I have both the M-N 91/30 (paid $69.95 for it) and just bought the M44 for $125. The 91/30 was made in 1939 and the M44 was manufactured in 1954. The 91/30 bore was clean. It is very accurate at 100 yards. With iron sights from a table rest I have hit an 8" metal target at 200 yards (not every time, but I have hit it a few). Gotten close to the one at 250 yards. I haven't shot the M44 yet, although the gun is in excellent shape. The bore is nice and shiny, metal is outstanding, and the wood is excellent.

I have bought about 10 boxes (20 rounds to the box - $11.00 per box) of the 7.62X54R boxer type rounds. I bought 1,000 pulled .311 BT bullets for a very good price. So far I have loaded the cases twice and put about 300 rounds through the 91/30. I am thinking of buying some of the surplus, 440 rounds for $78.95 and trying it. The primers are corrosive, so I will mix 1/10 ammonia with water, spray a patch until it is damp, run it down the barrel when I finish shooting, load up and go home and then run a patch with oil down the barrel, then a clean one or two. That neutralizes the corrosiveness.

My grandsons, 13, 14, and 20 love shooting the 91/30. We'll see how well they enjoy shooting the shorter M44. It may kick a little more.
ammonia and water doesn't neutralize the corrosivesness, the water however dilutes and washes away the corrosive potassium chlorate. your solution is pretty popular among shooters but the ammonia isnt doing anything for the corrosive salt the major player is the water. the only thing the ammonia helps with is copper fouling.

A solution I use is 50/50 mix of ballistol and water and run several wet patches till the bore is clean and then a few more for good measure then oil.
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S & K Mount

BTW, where do you find such a mount? I want to put one on my 91/30 or maybe the M44. Is the S & K one of those mounts that attaches where the rear sight is, after the rear sight is removed?

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HighDesertWolf:

I wrote "ballistol" down so I could look it up. Never heard of it. Of course there are a lot of things I haven't heard of. Tell me where you get it.

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www.scopemounts.com is the S&K site.
www.midwayusa.com has Ballistol.
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Originally Posted by hawkeye36 View Post
HighDesertWolf:

I wrote "ballistol" down so I could look it up. Never heard of it. Of course there are a lot of things I haven't heard of. Tell me where you get it.

Ray

I buy it locally but midwayusa.com carries it too
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Ballistol

Thanks for the information. After spending money on three thousand small rifle primers along with several other expenses, I'll have to hold off on the S&K scope mount for now. I'll order some Ballistol from Midway in the coming weeks too, just got to catch up on some things. Thanks for the info.

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I've got 2 91/30's, 1929 and 1934, and they aren't very accurate after the first few cold barrel shots, but that's OK, they are great fun to shoot. Recoil came up in the previous posts. I got a Winchester slip on recoil pad from wally world ($20) and it works great. I got the medium sized one because I wanted it easy to move between my two antiques, but I think the small size would snug up perfect. I don't know if the M44 butt is similar enough for this info to apply, but really a shoulder saver.

On accuracy, I'm shooting surplus bulgarian, chinese, and russian 146 gr steel bullets, and they seem to make less difference than the heat in the barrels. Both my guns have clean bores and strong rifleing, but have been counterbored.

Now if I can figure out how to mount the pig sticker, I'll be set for zombie attack after the shovel gives up the ghost.
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My 91/30 was made in 1939. The grooves don't have pitting, but looks like small particles in them. The lands are shiny. At 100 yards it isn't too much of a problem to hit an 8" metal target from benchrest. Sometimes I can hit it standing and shooting, but not consistently. My 14 year old grandson hit an 8" target at 250 yards with it. I can hit a 200 yard metal target once out of about 10 shots from a rest. The gun seems to be very accurate cold or hot. I'm trying to put a scope on it, but having an eye relief problem. Thinking of buying a pistol scope and trying it. I buy a box of boxer type ammo once a month and have built up a surplus of 250 cases that I reload. I use 146 grain .311 bullets with 25 g of Varget. Very accurate round.
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the bores on them vary so much. ive seen bore diameters go from .300 to .309 and groove diameters go from .310 to .314. ideally and you will see the best accuracy from barrels that are .300 to .302 bore and .310 to .312 groove or somewhere close. for accuracy its pretty important to slug your bore and use a bullet size accordingly. I have a 1939 tula 91/30 that appeared to be unfired till i got it that measures .300 bore and .311 groove it shoots superbly with both 308 and 310 dia. bullets.
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you shouldn't pay more than 100$ OTD for a shooter m44... it's a 60 dollar rifle dealer cost for the most part.
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Should check out Wolf ammo line called Golden Bear. That is non corrosive, and both of my 91/30 shoot it well.
If you have the inkling to buy in bulk http://ammoman.com/index.htm will ship for free to lower 48.
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Russian M44 Accuracy

Here are pictures of my Mosin/Nagant 91/30 made in 1939 at Tula and my M44 made in 1948 in Tula.
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I have a M44 i purchased from Big 5 sporting goods for around $70. And i use corrosive surplus ammo. I havent tried reloading for it yet. I set my rear sight on the lowest setting. I might creep up to 2 for like 200 yard shoots. Its pretty accurate from 100-200 shots that ive done. I can hit a 8in metal disk at a local range 3 to 4 times out of 5 rounds in the mag at 200 yds. Dont know about hunting with it, although I would like to try it out on coyotes.
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