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Old 02-08-2007, 16:52   #1
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CZ Rifles?

Anyone shooting em. I have three and have found them to be the most accurate rifles I have ever had the pleasure to shoot. Just wish they offerd them in more calibers.
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Old 02-09-2007, 04:36   #2
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I'm with you but I only have one a cz527 carbine in 762x39
shoots 1in at 100yrds with anything I have put trough it
don't like the mag release
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I think they are awesome rifles for the money. I used to think of them as a European Savage, with high accuracy and high value, if not always the nicest fit and finish.

Currently the only CZ rifle I own is a .17 HMR, and it is THE most accurate rifle I own at 100 yards, hands down. It can even outshoot my .223 Browning Abolt, which is no slouch. The one thing I'm less thrilled with (though this isn't enough to stop me from advocating and buying CZ's) is the overall fit and finish on the rifle. The bolt mechanism is not as smooth (as the A-bolt, for example), and the stock is not as nice in its finish, or in its overall contours and lines. You have to jiggle the bolt and struggle with it a bit to get it to lock shut each time.

The next CZ I plan to get would be one of their small-bore centerfire rifles, in the 527 series. The rifles in this series have allegedly won a lot of competitions in Europe. I think the secret to their success is mostly in their high-quality barrels. And, with the success they've been having in the American markets, they're actually improving the fit and finish over time, so they're getting better as they go.

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True, they are not the most beautiful and they can be a little stiff out of the box. I had the bolts slicked up a bit on both of my 550's. The bolt on my 527 was plenty smooth , but the mag had to be taken apart and the inner edges smoothed over. To me that's a minor inconvenience compared to all the things that need to be done to some factory rifles just to get them to shoot. I really like the single set trigger for shooting off the bench.

Tim, here is what a 12 year old boy can do with a CZ 527 221 Fireball @100 yards.



And here is what an old fart can do with a CZ 550 American 9.3x62 @100 yards.



This target demonstates the accuracy of my CZ 550. This is a 10 shot group. Five rounds with 286gr Nosler Partiton/65gr Ramshot BigGame, and five rounds with 270gr Speer/Ramshot BigGame. If you look close you can almost see the two different groups, one on the right and one on the left.

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Old 02-09-2007, 16:03   #5
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Nice shooting! I like CZ more all the time. There are a few companies that are so on the ball, it seems like almost everything you hear about them is good. One is the Black Hills ammunition company. And CZ is another. As you know if you read the semiauto handguns section of PerfectUnion, I just bought one of the new CZ SP 01 pistols in 9mm (it's a redesigned/update of the classic CZ 75), and those guns too are considered best in class. I cannot imagine nicer, better quality guns being made, considering the reasonable prices they charge for their products, and how insanely accurate they are. There are probably a couple of exceptions, but I don't personally KNOW about any of their products that are considered to be crappy. How many companies can you say that about?

One other thing I LOVE about these guys, as well as Savage, in comparison with almost all other gun companies. THEY CARE ABOUT US POOR LEFTIES!!! Left-handed shooters comprise 15 to 20% of the shooting population, but only about 1% to 2% of all guns made are truly made for left-handers. CZ (and Savage) offer a good number of their models--and a much higher percentage of their available product lines--in left-handed versions compared with other companies. Case in point? Just this year they started offering their awesome .17 HMR 452 American in left-hand (that's the one I have), and they also started offering their 527 American .223 in left-hand.

http://www.cz-usa.com/media_releases.php?m=4&msgid=70

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This is my CZ 527 LUX in .223. I mounted a Leupold Vari-X II 3-9X 40 MM on it in CZ Steel Rings. It's been an OK performer, but with that said my wifes 3 AR-15's are far more accurate. I will say the CZ is well made of nothing but blued steel and Walnut, and is well fit and finished for the price. But the magazines are very expensive and feed poorly. It requires a lot of force to strip a round off into the chamber, and it scratches the cases badly. There is a fix for this I'm told, but you shouldn't have to start "fixing" things on a new gun taken straight from the box. I'm not going to sell it because my wife likes to "play" with it when she's not shooting her AR's. The gun is a little too petite for my likeing. Considering the money I have tied up in it, I would have rather purchased another AR. Perhaps a Bushmaster Stainless Varminter. I think with hindsight being 20/20 it would have been money better spent. Bill T.
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Old 02-11-2007, 16:32   #7
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Take the mag apart and smooth the edges of the inner lips. Takes about 5 minutes.
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Bill, it's good to hear that report. I'm bummed to hear something less than stellar about one of my favorite gun companies, but hey, it's better to know the reality. Also, you sure seem to love those AR's of yours--they always come out on top. LOL! But that doesn't surprise me; my AR is tied with my A-bolt as being the most accurate centerfire rifle I own.

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I've got CZ 550s in .375 H&H Magnum (beautiful aftermarket wood) and 30 06. I've got CZ 527s in 6.5 Grendel, 7.62x39 and .223. I like mine over the average Remington, Winchester or Ruger. The best deer or pig gun is the 527 in the 6.5 Grendel. The one I shoot the most is the 7.62x39, probably because its accurate has no recoil and CHEAP to shoot. The most flexable of the group is of course the 30 06. I don't really care for CZs stocks and scope mounts, but I love their triggers and dependability.
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I'm going to order one this week. I'm looking at the CZ 452 Lux model since I want to practice iron sight shooting. All my other rifles are centerfire, this will be my first rimfire rifle.
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im going for the 452 varmint! i just like a heavy barrel. ive done a LOT of reading on these and they seem to be one of the best deals going.
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Hey Steve, on your comment about CZ rifles: I have another thread where I'm seeking input from people on the best factory .308 rifle I can get.

Do you own a CZ 550 in .308, or if not, do you know anything about how they might stack up versus say Savage and Rem 700's, for two factors:

1) Build quality

2) Accuracy
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Originally Posted by timlt View Post
Hey Steve, on your comment about CZ rifles: I have another thread where I'm seeking input from people on the best factory .308 rifle I can get.

Do you own a CZ 550 in .308, or if not, do you know anything about how they might stack up versus say Savage and Rem 700's, for two factors:

1) Build quality

2) Accuracy
I do not own a .308 CZ or any other .308. Of the three you have mentioned I have a Savage 11G in 7MM-08, Rem 700 in 30-06 and 3 CZ's.

The Savage 11G is on the cheap end of the Savage scale. It has (had) a plastic trigger guard and the ugliest stock you ever laid your eyes on. The metal to wood fit is rather poor. The action is smooth as silk. Mine does not have the "Accu-Trigger" and it is not very adjustable. IMO the accuracy is well above average. If I were to purchase a new Savage I would look at the American Classic. It's a much better rifle than the "Hunter" series.

My Rem 700 has been with me since I was a little fart. It's accurate, smooth, looks good, feels good and the trigger is easily adjustable. If the new Remington's have the same production quality it would be a fine choice.

The CZ's are great rifles for the money. The trigger is easily adjustable and the single set trigger is a great feature when shooting off the bench. Their accuracy is outstanding to say the least. The metal to wood on my CZ's is very nice, however I have read that this is not always the case. My 550 9.3x62 has very nice wood and an average finish. My 527 221 Fireball as exceptional wood and a beautiful finish. My 550 FS 6.5x55 has plain wood with a butt ugly finish. It seems that CZ has a problem with the quality of their finishing. The actions are solid and well built. They can also be kinda rough and stiff. I had the bolt lugs on my 9.3 polished and slicked up, it's smooth as silk now. Cost me $10. I am a big fan of the CZ's and highly recommend them.

It's kind of a toss up here Tim. If accuracy is #1 then I would go with the CZ first then the Savage. If weight is a concern then I would look at the Savage and Remington before the CZ.

What model Savage and Remington do you have in mind?
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I have the info about specific ones I'm looking at over in the other thread. But I've narrowed it down quite a bit. Here are my leading contenders in each of the brands:

Savage 10FLP .308 in LH
This is a "law enforcement" Savage with a heavier barrel, a nice synthetic stock, and weighs a reasonable 8.5 pounds.
http://www.savagearms.com/10flp.htm

Remington: 700 VSF .308 in LH

This Remington is a heavy-barreled model, has a HS precision fiber stock, with alum block bedding along the whole length.
http://www.remington.com/products/fi...el_700_VSF.asp

CZ 550 in .308
I like the CZ's, definitely, but they don't have any LH models in the 550 series. I know some lefties like my Dad are able to shoot right-handed--and I can when I have to--but for speedy follow-up shots, I need a true left-handed action.

BTW, found one good review of the Howa Supreme Varminter. Sounds very appealing, but the guy emphasizes this gun is ALL RH, there's no shooting it LH. Too bad. The guy claims his first real group ever out of a brand new rifle was 0.88. His next was 0.68. And his third was 0.27. Don't know if they all shoot like that, but I can see why some people like them.
http://www.snipercentral.com/howa.htm


Of all these, I'm guessing the Savage or the CZ's might shoot the best right out of the box, but this particular Rem should be VERY accurate as well, and the thing I like most about the Rems is, EVERYBODY knows how to work on them, and you can easily rebarrel or modify any way you want.

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Being a left handed shooter does complicate things a bit. I think the Savage is the way to go. It has a reputation for excellent accuracy, smooth adjustable trigger (AccuTrigger), solid reliable action and it comes in LH. If you are looking for LH and accurate the Savage gets my vote.
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If I end up being willing to drop the LH requirement, would you go with Howa or CZ, then? And how are these two rifles if you want to rebarrel them or get them customized?
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I would go with the CZ. No need to rebarrel unless you change the caliber or cartridge. CZ triggers are adjustable and have the single set trigger, IMO no need to replace them.
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Originally Posted by unclebill View Post
im going for the 452 varmint! i just like a heavy barrel. ive done a LOT of reading on these and they seem to be one of the best deals going.
well i did it. here are some groups.mind you im not the best shot west of the pecos but....
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That's a beautiful rifle there, Bill. Man I LOVE CZ rifles! I could only wish they made that heavy barreled varminter you have in a LH model. Oh, the joy of being born a southpaw.
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That's a beautiful rifle there, Bill. Man I LOVE CZ rifles! I could only wish they made that heavy barreled varminter you have in a LH model. Oh, the joy of being born a southpaw.
this things a keeper alright.i have more than a few rifles and this is the most accurate out of all of them. a lot of fun to shoot! im off now to go practice my silhouettes.
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CZ Rifles - Great Buy!!!

Originally Posted by steve4102 View Post
Anyone shooting em. I have three and have found them to be the most accurate rifles I have ever had the pleasure to shoot. Just wish they offerd them in more calibers.
I'm shooting a CZ 550 Kevlar Varmint rifle in 22-250, it easily shoots 1" groups/100yrds. I also have a CZ 452 .22 rimfire, love it, most accurate rimfire I have ever owned. (Feel and finish are exceptional) I also shoot a CZ-527 in 22 Hornet, the most accurate of all my centerfire rifles. I can't say enough good things about them. The barrels will hold up to many firings between cleanings because the bores are "hand-lapped". Can't say that for my rems and rugers.
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Originally Posted by hm2 clark View Post
I've got CZ 550s in .375 H&H Magnum (beautiful aftermarket wood) and 30 06. I've got CZ 527s in 6.5 Grendel, 7.62x39 and .223. I like mine over the average Remington, Winchester or Ruger. The best deer or pig gun is the 527 in the 6.5 Grendel. The one I shoot the most is the 7.62x39, probably because its accurate has no recoil and CHEAP to shoot. The most flexable of the group is of course the 30 06. I don't really care for CZs stocks and scope mounts, but I love their triggers and dependability.
CZ doesn't list a 527 in 6.5 Grendel; was it a rebarrel, and if so how much and by whom? I want one very badly!!!
Thanks!
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the cz lux in 223 has a 1-12 twist. try 40-50 grain ammo. mine shoots 50 grain v-max blackhills ammo in the same hole at 100 yards. its one of my favorite rifles a great walking varmit rifle.
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My new found luv.. CZ 452.. they made me feel like a cheater... I know I can't shoot that well

Was shopping for a semi-auto .22 for plinking fun.. just couldn;t justify $200+ for guns with plastic .. or $400+ for some evil-rimfire guns.. shouldered the CZ Scout and I know immediately I've found what I need... return the next day for the American..

The pix are little older.. the VR7 is now on the Scout, a Mueller APV is now sitting on the American.

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