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Old 04-24-2012, 19:17   #26
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Probably not the most politically correct statement to make, but I personally value freedom of speech over hurt feelings. I'm not a bigot but that comment in that context was in no way offensive. I'd call it slang more than I'd call it a slur.
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Originally Posted by NWwoodsman View Post
Probably not the most politically correct statement to make, but I personally value freedom of speech over hurt feelings.
and I think that is what we are running into here.

Someone saw something they did not like, and they are freaking out over it.
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Originally Posted by Kevin View Post
and I think that is what we are running into here.

Someone saw something they did not like, and they are freaking out over it.
If this is still about the use of "*******" I call foul ball in it being dismissed as slang and not a slur."ginormous".... "skeeved out" thats slang... if my boys came home from school and started talking about "*******s" and said it was just a slang word i would bust there asses in a second. Now on the flip side because it was used in the sh¡thole known as the Poli board I do take a little weight off the term. Internet Poli bbs are the sh¡tpit of the webernet.

oh.. and if we can all hide behind freedom of speech... why do i have to know my alt codes to say sh¡t?

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Old 04-24-2012, 20:10   #29
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Originally Posted by whofarted View Post
If this is still about the use of "*******" I call foul ball in it being dismissed as slang and not a slur."ginormous"....
Send me a link to the thread / post #,,, something where "wet back" was used.

Did anyone even bother to report the post?

We have a "report post" feature for a reason, its the red triangle in the bottom left hand corner of every post under the user information.

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Originally Posted by Kevin View Post
Send me a link to the thread / post #,,, something where "wet back" was used.

Did anyone even bother to report the post?

We have a "report post" feature for a reason, its the red triangle in the bottom left hand corner of every post under the user information.

If someone sees a post that violates community guidelines, report it.

I cant. I am reacting to your reaction of anothers action.<--you like that right? Agreeing with anothers dismissal of a comment as slang in my opinion (as i read it) is as a bad as agreeing with the use. Now... I dont agree with most of the "tit for tat" this thread has produced. You can also probably not find another example of me disagreeing with you about anything on this board. Maybe I misinterpreted the intention of your post. If so.. my bad.
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Old 04-24-2012, 22:16   #31
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Not true. I have spoken with him several times. He may not reply straight away. But he does.

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Send me a link to the thread / post #,,, something where "wet back" was used.
Quite a few actually. No one freaked out before.

Good on ya boys-I'll send you some ammo!

Janet Napolitano is insane.

11-yr old shotgunner vs home invasion attempt

Nearly 3,000 Illegal Aliens Caught in Seven-Day ICE Sweep

Store requires citizenship to buy ammo

Can We Prevent a Second Civil War?

Perhaps I should complain everytime I hear a birther call Obama a Kenyan.
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Originally Posted by Kevin View Post
Send me a link to the thread / post #,,, something where "wet back" was used.

Did anyone even bother to report the post?

We have a "report post" feature for a reason, its the red triangle in the bottom left hand corner of every post under the user information.

If someone sees a post that violates community guidelines, report it.
i already posted the link right in this thread. i am not trolling, just trying to address this before it become a bigger problem. if '*******" jokes are ok, "N" word jokes, jew jokes and others will follow.

if you want to allow complete freedom of speech, allow me to go in and tell the poster what i think of them in any manner i please. i bet i get banned in case. so i'm asking it to be dealt with please. in what should be considered the correct manner.
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[QUOTE=survivalguy72;704915]Not true. I have spoken with him several times. He may not reply straight away. But he does.



Quite a few actually. No one freaked out before.

Good on ya boys-I'll send you some ammo!

Janet Napolitano is insane.

11-yr old shotgunner vs home invasion attempt

if this is the case then let the N words, crakers, honkeys, and every other insult we can come up with be game. allow me to go in there and call everyone any name i want. in the normal world, this term is racist at best. why are we banning f ords and eveything else, if its all free speech.

either mod the board or let us go.
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Who's kidding whom.

Here's the latest of many examples:
The Trayvon Rally in Terms Everyone Can Understand

And no one's mentioned the misogyny yet.
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Old 04-25-2012, 06:59   #35
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Originally Posted by survivalguy72 View Post
What "exactly" in those threads do you object to?

I need to know exactly where and what is the issue?

Yall expect me to read though a thread and magically be able to read your mind as to what the problem is?
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There is absolutely nothing "Racist" about the term *******. I have many family members who are of Mexican decent and they use the term all the time to describe mexicans who came here illegally. Besides that, Mexican is not a race and ******* certainly isn't. Mexicans are a mixed breed of Spaniards (caucasian race) and Indians (mongoloid race) . Actually, some even have some Negroid mixed in as well.

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Originally Posted by woodstock View Post
There is absolutely nothing "Racist" about the term *******. I have many family members who are of Mexican decent and they use the term all the time to describe mexicans who came here illegally. Besides that, Mexican is not a race and ******* certainly isn't. Mexicans are a mixed breed of Spaniards (caucasian race) and Indians (mongoloid race) . Actually, some even have some Negroid mixed in as well.
wow...just wow.....

ok...name any creditable news source that will use the term "*******s" to desrcibe mexican americans openly and then i will concede that ******* is not offensive. any newscaster would likely face consequences for that.

don't pull...."i know a mexican guy" stufff. within a family, or friends where everyone knows it is not used in a harmful context is a totally different matter. how many balck people call themselves by "N" word? how many whites get away with that? not a good example. btw, i had mexican americanfriend in HS that would have gladly punched you in the mouth for calling him *******, so i know it offends many people.

as far as mexicans not being a race, no on this board is twelve, so i think we all understand that. it is still a rude, demeaning term used to lable a group of people. fair enough?

terms posted on this board reflect the poster, this board, and the gun owning community. we should be better than this.

if you allow one disrespectful term to be ok, allow them all! hat way i can REALLY express myself to those who use this term openly here.
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Originally Posted by woodstock View Post
There is absolutely nothing "Racist" about the term *******.
Originally Posted by hawkguy View Post
wow...just wow.....

ok...name any creditable news source that will use the term "*******s" to desrcibe mexican americans openly and then i will concede that ******* is not offensive. any newscaster would likely face consequences for that.
Where do we draw the line?

If "*******" is considered racist, are the words "boobs" and "titties" considered sexist?

What about the word "retard", where does it fall? Some people get highly offended with the word "retard", while others think its no big deal.

There is a line somewhere between being politically correct, and being racist.
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Originally Posted by Kevin View Post
What "exactly" in those threads do you object to?

I need to know exactly where and what is the issue?

Yall expect me to read though a thread and magically be able to read your mind as to what the problem is?
kevin,

please, sir....WHY is this going around in circles like this? the issue is posters on this forum using the term "*******s" to desribe mexican americans or illegal aliens. you have been given links where posters are using the term.

i would greatly appreciate it if you would make a public announcement to this board that this term is NOT ACCEPTABLE on your forum.

or, if you choose, approve the use of this word. its your forum. but i feel if nothing is done, it should be my right to address the issue myself, and call the persons using it whatever i wish to call them. then we can all get to see how well complete freedom of speech will work on this board.
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Originally Posted by Kevin View Post
Where do we draw the line?

If "*******" is considered racist, are the words "boobs" and "titties" considered sexist?

There is a line somewhere between being politically correct, and being racist.
why on earth do you need to use the words "boobs" or "titties" on ANY forum on this board? is there a porn forum i don't know about here? kevin...all due respect....but this is perhaps the weakest argument i have ever heard in any debate in my life.

so it is now a free for all here? ok, i think i deserve the right to handle it myself, and i should face no consequences considering i tried to address it in a correct manner and my pleas are just to be ignored. if calling people *******s is now ok, well....i guess its my turn to call names.

i'll take care of it on my own kevin, thanks for listening.
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ok...name any creditable news source that will use the term "*******s" to desrcibe mexican americans openly and then i will concede that ******* is not offensive.
I think you are missing the point. Mexican Americans are not *******s, the illegals are and it really doesn't matter if you are hispanic, asian, black or white. If you are here illegally and you had to cross the Rio Grande to get here, you are a *******.
BTW, I lived in West Texas for a number of years and I know what goes on. I agree fully that it is an insult to call a Mexican American a ******* but not an illegal. That is what the Mexican Americans call them.
Why don't you just put on your big boy pants and not let what someone else says worry you so much. Be responsible for your own actions, you are not your brothers keeper.
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What about the word "retard", where does it fall? Some people get highly offended with the word "retard", while others think its no big deal.
could it be that these terms are rude, disrespectful, and flaming? are any of these terms helpful in ANY manner. can i call YOU a retard everytime you post?

thanks, though. i am going to deal with all the retards in the political section.
they are mostly morons, wimps, and losers anyway.

what a great board this is!
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Originally Posted by woodstock View Post
I think you are missing the point. Mexican Americans are not *******s, the illegals are and it really doesn't matter if you are hispanic, asian, black or white. If you are here illegally and you had to cross the Rio Grande to get here, you are a *******.
i think you are missing the point. call them illegal aliens. it works just as well and isn't nearly as disrespectful.

again, show me the real news anchor man that states "the boarder patrol caught 10 *******s" and keeps his job, and i'll concede.
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ok...name any creditable news source that will use the term "*******s" to desrcibe mexican americans openly and then i will concede that ******* is not offensive.
I never said it wasn't offensive. I said it wasn't racist. Everything is offensive to someone. What should we all do, just walk around and never speak for fear of offending someone? Sounds a lot like PC bull$hit to me. What is your big hang up with words anyway?
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Originally Posted by woodstock View Post
I never said it wasn't offensive. I said it wasn't racist. Everything is offensive to someone. What should we all do, just walk around and never speak for fear of offending someone? Sounds a lot like PC bull$hit to me. What is your big hang up with words anyway?
If you would have throughtly read his original post, you would know why he feels the term is wrong.

He is allowed to have personal feelings and opinions, isn't he. Even though he doesn't live in Georgia?

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woodstock;705036]I never said it wasn't offensive. I said it wasn't racist.
ok...ummmm....racist, prejudice, offensive, pick your word....its still wrong.


Everything is offensive to someone. What should we all do, just walk around and never speak for fear of offending someone? Sounds a lot like PC bull$hit to me. What is your big hang up with words anyway?
we can abide by universal rules of respect. that means you do not use "offensive" terms to describe an entire people, or an individual. NOTHING constructive comes of it. in your home or with your family or friends, i don't care. this is a PUBLIC forum, anyone can read it & most of them are not your friends or family.

you are thinking this term is ok, because it doesn't offend you personally. do you want me to offend you personally, to make the point? i bet there are words i could use to describe you, your race, your family, etc, that may not offend anyone else.

anyway, see you in the political forum, i will most likely insult you there. you should excuse it as free speech.
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If you would have throughtly read his original post, you would know why he feels the term is wrong.

He is allowed to have personal feelings and opinions, isn't he. Even though he doesn't live in Georgia?
That makes no sense at all. First of all, I did read the original post. I still don't see your point and I damn sure don't see what living in GA has to do with anything.

Here are the rules for the political forum. If they offend you, go somewhere else.

If your gonna post in this forum, you better have your big boy/big girl panties on.

Do not report post in this forum, unless they are:

1. Threats of violence
2. Promote breaking some kind of law
3. Spam
4. Keep the foul language to a minimum.

If your feelings get hurt in the political section, stay out.
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Originally Posted by woodstock View Post
That makes no sense at all. First of all, I did read the original post. I still don't see your point and I damn sure don't see what living in GA has to do with anything.

Here are the rules for the political forum. If they offend you, go somewhere else.
It seems as though you have a problem with comprehending the english language... Good-Bye

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Originally Posted by hawkguy View Post
kevin,

please, sir....WHY is this going around in circles like this? the issue is posters on this forum using the term "*******s" to desribe mexican americans or illegal aliens. you have been given links where posters are using the term.
Would you care to put this to a vote?

I can start a new thread with a poll, le tthe poll run for a few dates, whichever option has the most votes wins.
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It seems as though you have a problem with comprehending the english language... Good-Bye
What ever you say.
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