Isn't China just wonderfull?

[Mrblackguns]

I'm so sick of hearing the news media bloat about how wonderfull China is!
You can't even see the sky or more than a city block due to the horrific polution.

Well somebody had the balls to tell the truth about they way they treat people in China,....the famous basket ball player Yao Ming is basicaly a cripple now due to the inhuman pressure China has put on him to perform for them, countless other atheletes are used up and thrown away like bic lighters by the Chinese govt. Another recent news piece suggested China has been resurrecting the old communist east German philosophy of "human enginering" for their atheletes. Anyone who has seen the Chinese "womens" swimming team can tell something unusual is going on.

This artical tells it like it is..................

http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/beijing/basketball/news?slug=aw-yaoteamusa081008&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[mnottfam]

Not to sound dehumanizing, but that's what the entire Chinese govt. is about these days, and has been for quite a while. Their greatest asset is their massive population. They don't see their citizens as such, they just see them as numbers. The one resource they have in massive qty. is...people. One gets worn out, oh well, "look--we have 12,000 more to take his place." I suppose it's not even a Chinese thing, but a South-East Asian thing. Overall, they have a VERY different set of values of human life. Just ask any Vietnam vet. Life over there, human or whatever, is abundant, and therefor, cheap. I suppose all you have to do is look at the prevailing religion over there and its core beliefs. Budhism. The whole "reincarnation" thing. Their beliefs are BASED on the concept that life is cheap.

Again, not being "racist" or any other such nonsense. I've met and known people of SE Asian decent who were same as you or I. What I'm getting at is OVER THERE, there are VERY different standards, values, and morals, and when we try to force our value systems on them, they get unpleasant. There are HUGE societal differences between our culture and theirs. We all have to realize that what works for us WON'T work for them, but also the VICE-VERSA IS TRUE--communism may work for them, but NOT FOR US!! As long as all agree that their way is theirs, and ours is OURS, it'll be OK.

Do I personally agree with the way Yao has been treated? Absolutely not. But it's their society, and the way it works. He choses to continue to exist in that system--to IT'S GREATER GLORY. You or I may not understand, but there's a strong sense of patriotism involved that makes him PROUD to be able to have given what he has to HIS country.

I say let him, and good for him. Maybe if WE had a little stronger patriotic flavor here in America and stood up for our SYSTEM, and against those trying to mess with it, we wouldn't be in the boat we're in.

[Mrblackguns]

Not to sound dehumanizing, but that's what the entire Chinese govt. is about these days, and has been for quite a while. Their greatest asset is their massive population. They don't see their citizens as such, they just see them as numbers. The one resource they have in massive qty. is...people. One gets worn out, oh well, "look--we have 12,000 more to take his place." I suppose it's not even a Chinese thing, but a South-East Asian thing. Overall, they have a VERY different set of values of human life. Just ask any Vietnam vet. Life over there, human or whatever, is abundant, and therefor, cheap. I suppose all you have to do is look at the prevailing religion over there and its core beliefs. Budhism. The whole "reincarnation" thing. Their beliefs are BASED on the concept that life is cheap.

Again, not being "racist" or any other such nonsense. I've met and known people of SE Asian decent who were same as you or I. What I'm getting at is OVER THERE, there are VERY different standards, values, and morals, and when we try to force our value systems on them, they get unpleasant. There are HUGE societal differences between our culture and theirs.

I couldn't agree more with the first part of your statement, it is so true. But as far as him doing it willingly, what they call "patroitism" I call forced labor, Asian or not, comunism has a well known policy of threatening athelete's familys if they don't perform as ordered, I doubt Yao would be killing himself if he could make the call himself out of a free will void of external threats and pressure.