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timlt
12-05-2007, 07:58
Received this alert from the NRA. This Friday, Dec. 7th, is the final hearing of the Dept. of Fish and Wildlife to make a decision that will give them the power to arbitrarily limit shooting on lands controlled by them. This has never been under their authority before, but under the new proposed rules, they will be able to limit shooting in ways previously inconceivable to Washington shooters and hunters. Folks who care about this issue need to send in your comments, per the instructions at the end of this NRA notice.

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Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) Proposes Restrictions on Recreational Shooting
Your Comments are Crucial!

The Washington Fish & Wildlife Commission will be considering a proposal on Friday, December 7, that would make it easier to prohibit recreational shooting on land controlled by the Department of Fish & Wildlife (DFW). This Port Angeles public meeting will be the last of a series of hearings that have been held this summer and fall to consider many issues regarding public conduct on DFW land.

Unless there is an outpouring of comments in opposition to the proposed rules in the next two days, the Commission is likely to rubberstamp the proposal that will be before them this Friday. The proposed rule, WAC 232-13-130 (1) (b), would authorize the DFW to prohibit the discharge of firearms on any or all portions of Department land at any time and for any (or no) reason. Without public input, DFW could shut down any of their land by merely posting signs. In the future, they MAY designate limited areas open for limited shooting under WAC 232-13-130 (2).

Further, the proposal would create an arbitrary 1000-foot diameter no-shooting area around every designated campground. Under this proposed language, one individual could be “illegally” shooting one hundred feet away from a campground and be entirely safe while another could be “legally” shooting five hundred and one feet away and be unsafe and irresponsible. Specific local conditions such as topography and vegetation, variables such as campground usage and season, and the muzzle direction of the shooter, would be removed from the equation. If there are examples of safety concerns regarding specific campsite locations, those should be addressed on a case-by-case basis. A blanket prohibition to address nonexistent concerns is simply discrimination against the recreational shooters who have a proven record of being remarkably safe and responsible through the years.

Finally, proposed WAC 232-13-130 (1) (c) would make it unlawful to fail to remove expended shell casings and other target shooting debris after shooting activities. NRA requests to add a “good faith effort” or “due diligence” standard to the clean-up language have been ignored. What that means is that a shooter who makes a legitimate attempt to clean up after his target practice session, but only finds 98 of the 100 shell casings he fired, is subject to sanctions for “littering.”

Participation by hunters and recreational shooters at the meeting this Friday is crucial. Because this is the last in the series of hearings on this proposal, and public input may be limited, it would be even more helpful to submit comments to the Commission. Given the tight timeframe this must happen immediately! Comments may be sent in by email to commission@dfw.wa.gov or by fax to 360/902-2448. You may view the proposed rules by looking up the meeting agenda at http://wdfw.wa.gov/com/dec0807.htm and then clicking on the link under item number nine. The agenda will also have details regarding the Friday meeting to be held in Port Angeles.

kralizec
12-11-2007, 01:09
Have you heard anything yet? Hope it went well.

timlt
12-11-2007, 09:23
Aaaargh! Well the WDFW site (http://wdfw.wa.gov/do/newreal/release.php?id=dec1007a) says the rules were all approved. We lost. This is horrible news for shooters, and I predict it's going to ripple and eventually lead to the end of our ability to shoot on any public lands in this state, if there isn't a serious backlash and effort to roll it back. But it seems like most people don't even care, folks act they aren't even aware of what's going on. It's the old frog in the kettle syndrome.

This kind of use of bureaucratic agencies to end shooting rights is currently the greatest threat I can see to 2nd Amendment freedoms in this country. What they cannot accomplish through Federal law, they are doing just as effectively through state regulations.

So now the story is. Own firearms? Sure: own all you want. But you just can't USE them anywhere, except on sleazy little indoor gun ranges with 20-yard lanes, or big private ranches out in Montana where you pay big bucks for the privilege of the land use. That's where I fear we're headed.

ma96782
12-13-2007, 12:12
The next step is to insist that FUNDS be made available for PROPER RANGE CONSTRUCTION.

Here in Clark County, WA.......the Parks and Rec. money is spent on "other" sports. It's private clubs and pay big fees........not to mention that there are limits on the amount of members (for some clubs).

Aloha, Mark

RDHNTR
12-12-2008, 09:12
There is a range in Clark Co. Washington that is run by the county. It is called English Pit and is open on weekends. I believe it is $15.00 for the whole day and as many guns as you want to shoot. Frank

abc38419
05-20-2009, 17:29
Maybe we won. The commission has been allowing shooting in areas in which shooting shouldn't be allowed--such as where the projectiles have to fall on private homes. Anyhow, littering, unrestrained shooting at everything from rocks to road signs, in campgrounds, next to campgrounds (a National Park campground near where I live is routinely subjected to high volume firing in nearby National Forest, just 100 ft away, in neighborhoods with no shooting zones, etc. really give gun owners a bad name and leaves a bad taste in the public mouth when it comes to unrestricted shooting. The WDF&W maintain public hunting areas, for Pete's sake .... and, guess what ... sells hunting licenses.