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Dutch Nick
10-07-2006, 08:51
One more reason to throw the Republican bums out on November 7. Maybe if they're on the outside, looking in for a couple years, they'll remember what the Grand Old Party used to stand for, before the neocon wackos hijacked it.




By Ben Neary, Associated Press
October 7, 2006

CHEYENNE - A federal agency is balking at a Wyoming law that allows people convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence to regain their right to own guns simply because the agency wants to take guns away from as many people as possible, a state lawyer told a federal judge Friday.

U.S. District Judge Alan Johnson heard arguments in a lawsuit Wyoming filed against the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

The state has asked Johnson to rule that the ATF acted illegally when it threatened to disallow nearly 11,000 concealed weapons permits the state has issued to its citizens as a substitute for federal background checks for firearms purchases.

Congress in 1996 expanded the ban that prohibits convicted felons from owning guns to include anyone convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence.

A Wyoming law enacted in 2004 allows people convicted of a misdemeanor domestic violence charge to petition in court to get their first conviction expunged. The ATF has warned Wyoming that it would stop honoring state weapon permits for gun purchases if Wyoming continues to use its law.

Wyoming's lawsuit has drawn national attention, with groups such as the National Rifle Association and the Gun Owners Foundation in Washington supporting the state's position.

The ATF says the problem with the state law is that it doesn't really expunge a conviction because it specifies the record of the first conviction remains on the state books for purposes of enhancing penalties for any subsequent crime.

Alexander K. Haas, a lawyer for the ATF, told Johnson he doesn't think the Wyoming Legislature would want to change the state law to allow people convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence to have their records entirely expunged because of the public safety concerns.

But Haas said the ATF hasn't sought to prevent Wyoming from managing its own laws. Rather, he said, the federal agency gave the state a choice: if the state wanted to adopt a law that fails to meet the federal standard, it wouldn't be entitled to the federal benefit of having its citizens' concealed weapons permits accepted for instant gun purchases.

However, Levi Martin, assistant Wyoming attorney general, told Johnson that ATF's goal is "to remove firearms from the hands of as many people as it could."

Johnson said he would issue a ruling later.

plinky
10-07-2006, 09:14
One more reason to throw the Republican bums out on November 7. Maybe if they're on the outside, looking in for a couple years, they'll remember what the Grand Old Party used to stand for, before the neocon wackos hijacked it.


Nick this is the first time I agree with you 100%.

josh
10-07-2006, 11:47
Yet people still think republicans are for gun rights.

jwp
10-09-2006, 03:43
Yet people still think republicans are for gun rights.


moreso than democrats - atf still staffed/run by klinton compatriots [yes i know that shrub hasn't cleaned the house out ]

shrub isn't great but he's a whole lot better than gore or kerry

josh
10-09-2006, 04:42
moreso than democrats - atf still staffed/run by klinton compatriots [yes i know that shrub hasn't cleaned the house out ]

shrub isn't great but he's a whole lot better than gore or kerry

Gore and kerry admitted their goals GW lied about his . Congress stopped the assault weapons ban or Gw would have signed it. The ATF needs disbanded entirely it does not matter who is running it.

The truth is neither party wants us armed. The more reliant we are on govt the more power govt has.