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Zen900
08-30-2006, 00:50
During the Clinton years there were a ton of scandals. So many in fact that I learned to tune them out altogether because some were phony and partisan. Here is a good explanation about a phony scandal during George Ws administration. It was pretty easy to spot this one as a phony from the beginning. Christopher Hitchens an eloquent British writer pens this paste..

Plame OutThe ridiculous end to the scandal that distracted Washington.

By Christopher Hitchens
Posted Tuesday, Aug. 29, 2006, at 1:02 PM ET
http://img.slate.com/media/1/123125/2073765/2133662/2146903/060829_FW_ArmitageTN.jpg (http://www.slate.com/id/2148558/)Richard Armitage
(http://www.perfectunion.com/vb/)I had a feeling that I might slightly regret the title ("Case Closed (http://www.slate.com/id/2146475/)") of my July 25 column on the Niger uranium story. I have now presented thousands of words (http://www.slate.com/id/2103795/) of evidence (http://www.slate.com/id/2139609/) and argument (http://www.slate.com/id/2140058/) to the effect that, yes, the Saddam Hussein regime did send an important Iraqi nuclear diplomat to Niger in early 1999. And I have not so far received any rebuttal from any source on this crucial point of contention. But there was always another layer to the Joseph Wilson fantasy. Easy enough as it was to prove that he had completely missed the West African evidence that was staring him in the face, there remained the charge that his nonreport on a real threat had led to a government-sponsored vendetta against him and his wife, Valerie Plame.
In his July 12 column (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/12/AR2006071201519.html) in the Washington Post, Robert Novak had already partly exposed this paranoid myth by stating plainly that nobody had leaked anything, or outed anyone, to him. On the contrary, it was he who approached sources within the administration and the CIA and not the other way around. But now we have the final word on who diddisclose the name and occupation of Valerie Plame, and it turns out to be someone whose opposition to the Bush policy in Iraq has—like Robert Novak's—long been a byword in Washington. It is particularly satisfying that this admission comes from two of the journalists—Michael Isikoff and David Corn—who did the most to get the story wrong in the first place and the most to keep it going long beyond the span of its natural life.
As most of us have long suspected, the man who told Novak about Valerie Plame was Richard Armitage, Colin Powell's deputy at the State Department and, with his boss, an assiduous underminer of the president's war policy. (His and Powell's—and George Tenet's—fingerprints are all over Bob Woodward's "insider" accounts of post-9/11 policy planning, which helps clear up another nonmystery: Woodward's revelation several months ago that he had known all along about the Wilson-Plame connection and considered it to be no big deal.) The Isikoff-Corn book, which is amusingly titled Hubris (http://www.amazon.com/Hubris-Inside-Story-/dp/0307346811/), solves this impossible problem of its authors' original "theory" by restating it (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14533384/site/newsweek/print/1/displaymode/1098) in a passive voice:
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The disclosures about Armitage, gleaned from interviews with colleagues, friends and lawyers directly involved in the case, underscore one of the ironies of the Plame investigation: that the initial leak, seized on by administration critics as evidence of how far the White House was willing to go to smear an opponent, came from a man who had no apparent intention of harming anyone.
In the stylistic world where disclosures are gleaned and ironies underscored, the nullity of the prose obscures the fact that any irony here is only at the authors' expense. It was Corn in particular who asserted—in a July 16, 2003, blog post (http://www.thenation.com/blogs/capitalgames?pid=823) credited with starting the entire distraction—that:
The Wilson smear was a thuggish act. Bush and his crew abused and misused intelligence to make their case for war. Now there is evidence Bushies used classified information and put the nation's counter-proliferation efforts at risk merely to settle a score. It is a sign that with this gang politics trumps national security.
After you have noted that the Niger uranium connection was in fact based on intelligence that has turned out to be sound, you may also note that this heated moral tone ("thuggish," "gang") is now quite absent from the story. It turns out that the person who put Valerie Plame's identity into circulation was a staunch foe of regime change in Iraq. Oh, that's all right, then. But you have to laugh at the way Corn now so neutrally describes his own initial delusion as one that was "seized on by administration critics."
What does emerge from Hubris is further confirmation of what we knew all along: the extraordinary venom of the interdepartmental rivalry that has characterized this administration. In particular, the bureaucracy at the State Department and the CIA appear to have used the indiscretion of Armitage to revenge themselves on the "neoconservatives" who had been advocating the removal of Saddam Hussein. Armitage identified himself to Colin Powell as Novak's source before the Fitzgerald inquiry had even been set on foot. The whole thing could—and should—have ended right there. But now read this (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14533384/site/newsweek/print/1/displaymode/1098) and rub your eyes: William Howard Taft, the State Department's lawyer who had been told about Armitage (and who had passed on the name to the Justice Department)
also felt obligated to inform White House counsel Alberto Gonzales. But Powell and his aides feared the White House would then leak that Armitage had been Novak's source—possibly to embarrass State Department officials who had been unenthusiastic about Bush's Iraq policy. So Taft told Gonzales the bare minimum: that the State Department had passed some information about the case to Justice. He didn't mention Armitage. Taft asked if Gonzales wanted to know the details. The president's lawyer, playing the case by the book, said no, and Taft told him nothing more.
"[P]laying the case by the book" is, to phrase it mildly, not the way in which Isikoff and Corn customarily describe the conduct of the White House. In this instance, however, the evidence allows them no other choice. But there is more than one way in which a case can be played by the book. Under the terms of the appalling and unconstitutional Intelligence Identities Protection Act (http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Intelligence_Identities_Protection_Act) (see "A Nutty Little Law (http://www.slate.com/id/2123411/)," my Slatecolumn of July 26, 2005), the CIA can, in theory, "refer" any mention of itself to the Justice Department to see if the statute—denounced by The Nation and the New York Times when it was passed—has been broken. The bar here is quite high (http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Intelligence_Identities_Protection_Act). Perhaps for that reason, Justice sat on the referral for two months after Novak's original column. But then, rather late in the day, at the end of September 2003, then-CIA Director George Tenet himself sent a letter demanding to know whether the law had been broken.
The answer to that question, as Patrick Fitzgerald has since determined, is "no." But there were plenty of senior people who had known that all along. And can one imagine anybody with a stronger motive to change the subject from CIA incompetence and to present a widely discredited agency as, instead, a victim, than Tenet himself? The man who kept the knowledge of the Minnesota flight schools to himself and who was facing every kind of investigation and obloquy finally saw a chance to change the subject. If there is any "irony" in the absurd and expensive and pointless brouhaha that followed, it is that he was abetted in this by so many who consider themselves "radical."

freesw
08-30-2006, 08:19
So now we know.

Is Hitchens, and you by extension, suggesting that we should not have wanted to get to the bottom of this?

Yeah, you probably are. But please, go ahead and surprise me, and say otherwise.

Oh, and Hitchens is making stuff up:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/4/11/195156/594
You may not like the source, but find a flaw in the argument, and get back to me, OK?

One more thing - "scandal that wasn't"?

The scandal was the entire rush to war, the hasty and completely unnecessary diversion from Afghanistan. That is why the aftermath of the initial victory was bungled so badly, with reprecussions right up to this day, and far beyond.

Hoodoo
08-31-2006, 05:03
It has been obvious lfor a long time that this was simply an attempted political hatchet job. When Plame's identity was "compromised" she was stationed in D. C. Given that it is illegal for the CIA to conduct covert operations in the U.S., there is no way that anyone had violated the Law by revealing her name. WE now need to investigate the whole scenerio surrounding the Wilson's-why did the CIA send someone with no background or experience in Nukes on the Mission and why his Wife was sent with him in a covert capacity. Did she really have a valid mission or was this merely a guise so that she could accompany her Husband -paid , of course, by the taxpayers. Could be that these two clowns committed an illegal act themselves.

Boogyman
08-31-2006, 10:42
It has been obvious lfor a long time that this was simply an attempted political hatchet job.
Exactly.

A"political hatchet job" conducted against a man's wife for his telling truths that would undermine the administrations case for invading Iraq.

Armitage admitting what he told Novak doesn't change the fact that Cheney, Rove, Libby, and probably Bush were deliberately conspiring to smear Wilson by any dirty trick necessary.

Memos were written, word was put out amongst the Whitehouse staff about Plame's undercover status, with the hope and deliberate intention that it would be leaked.

And who was the other "Whitehouse official" that talked to Novak? We don't know yet, do we?

Be careful about calling this one solved. Far from it.

freesw
08-31-2006, 11:26
Be careful about calling this one solved. Far from it.

I completely agree.

And Hitchen's opinion piece is just that, the opinion of a man desperately attempting to justify his having publically supported Bush's rush to war.

I'll post this again
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/4/11/195156/594
Hitchens soundly refuted.
Don't like the source? Fine. Address the points then.

Hoodoo, what do you mean by
Given that it is illegal for the CIA to conduct covert operations in the U.S., there is no way that anyone had violated the Law by revealing her name.?

WE now need to investigate the whole scenerio surrounding the Wilson's-why did the CIA send someone with no background or experience in Nukes on the Mission and why his Wife was sent with him in a covert capacity.

On what basis?

Did she really have a valid mission or was this merely a guise so that she could accompany her Husband -paid , of course, by the taxpayers. Could be that these two clowns committed an illegal act themselves.

Idle speculation, IMO. If you have some basis for this, please state it.

Hoodoo
09-01-2006, 05:46
Jeez, the Plame affair is about the "outing" of a CIA employee, how does it interplay with the Iraq War other than that Plame and Wilson are Democrats and thus are opposed to bush and the War? The issue was whether or not someone in the Administration had broken the Law by divulging the identity of a covert employee. The situation was that Plame was not in a covert status at the time and thus no violation occured. This was obvious at the time the issue arose. By Law the CIA cannot conduct covert operations within U.S. Borders, thus if she was covert such was illegal and she and the CIA are the ones who should have been investigated along wit her husband for being an accessory.

freesw
09-01-2006, 06:47
Who ever said Plame was conducting covert operations inside the US?