View Full Version : Perfect truck gun?
gunrun45
04-26-2006, 01:21
OK, so I was all set to sighn off tonight and a thought struck me after reading some older threads in the lever gun section.
What do you think the perfect "truck gun" is?
I always carried lever guns in 45LC and 45/70 as truck guns becasue I wasnted something quick, easy to opperate, slim to keep it from being hung up in the truck and powerful to do the job.
I even carried a mariln 45/70 guide gun in a nylon scabard strapped up in the trunk of my Honda for a few years.
I recently started thinking about an 870 pump after working things out with tomac for another shotgun (thanks tomac, the money will be in the mail:D ).
Ideas? Thoughts? Current "truck guns". Lets hear'um boys and girls.
I'll be gone for a few days so I'll check back to see how its going saturday.
FatDaddy
04-26-2006, 05:47
My vote goes for the SKS. It's cheap, powerful, reliable as sin and can definitely take a beating and neglect.
Also, it won't hurt your feelings so bad if someone rips it off. Heck, they may not even steal it.:D
SPARTEN117
04-26-2006, 05:51
M-4 and/or a 1911 in kit form behind the seat, kind of like a tool box:D
Boogyman
04-26-2006, 11:36
This may suprise those that know how many guns I have, but my favorite truck gun for keeping stashed under the seat is an old JC Higgins .410 pump shotgun with the barrel cut down to legal limit and the stock shortened. It has rifle sights on it, and I carry shotshells and rifled slugs in the glove compartment. I killed a deer once at 80 yards with a rifled slug, and I can't count all the squirrel and rabbit that have ended up in the strew pot thanks to this little gun! :D
Plus I only paid $100 bucks for it, so if it gets stolen no big loss.
stevekaw
04-26-2006, 11:42
Ditto. Ruger Mini-14...
+1 on the SKS. A para SKS w/fixed 10 round mag. Handy, reliable, and "good to go" out to 150 yds. Good for defense or hunting. I love my Minis and AR, but I'd be sad as hell if they got snatched out of the truck. A good SKS can be had for well under $250 - if it gets stolen then buy another and don't shed any tears!
5L
+1 on the SKS. A para SKS w/fixed 10 round mag. Handy, reliable, and "good to go" out to 150 yds. Good for defense or hunting. I love my Minis and AR, but I'd be sad as hell if they got snatched out of the truck. A good SKS can be had for well under $250 - if it gets stolen then buy another and don't shed any tears!
5L
Or if it gets confiscated, A mini 14 and a 16 ga pump shotgun would handle any type hunting from snake to varmit to doves.
gunrun45
04-29-2006, 16:34
I like boogy's idea about the 410. I knew a guy once who used a H&R 410 for almost everything. He used slugs or 45LC to take game to around 80-100 yards and all manner of shot shells for everything else. The worst part was that he would shoot his $50 H&R and I would have to take my shotgun and my rifle.
Definately the theft issue has to be considered simply becasue of the high number of vehicle break ins alone if nothing else.
Zydeco76
05-03-2006, 04:00
I keep a short mini with a folder on it in the truck w about 40 rnds. My 1911 is usually there too if I am not at home. If I had an SKS it would be there instead. I would cry if my mini were stolen. I am thinking about throwing a cheap mauser in there too incase I have to reach out a little. BTW I think its important to keep them hidden if its legal where you live. I saw an M14 in the rear window of a truck once and even i was tempted.
gunrun45
05-06-2006, 01:04
Well, since I had to back out of my deal with Tomac for the 870, I began to tinker with my Mini-30. I had problems before with accuracy but with a little re-torquing of the gas block and an amega scout mount I now get around 2in groups with cheta ammo at 100 yards with a cheapo tasco scope. Kinda got me thinking...
Dorkface
05-06-2006, 09:32
A bed mounted M2... :D
SPARTEN117
05-06-2006, 10:06
A bed mounted M2... :D:rapid:
Kinslayer
05-07-2006, 08:53
I'm building a truck gun from a Ishy 2A in 308. I chopped it to a jungle carbine, much like the Gibbs model. Added a real recoil pad, a sporter front sight, cut off the original rear sight, and made the hand guard a solid one piece unit like the no. 4. Right now I'm working on a peep sight at the rear of the receiver.
As for chopping a milsurp weapon up, I have sinned. I should be yoked and tied kneeling to a rotating scaffold in the center of the town square. After a large hostile crowd gathers, let them jeer and pelt me with stones and rotten fruit and vegetables. Then let the largest, meanest person in town strip the shirt from my back with a bull whip while I plead for mercy. After enough spine and rib bones have been exposed to appease the crowd, let me be driven back to the woods by stones, torches, and sharpend sticks to live the rest of my miserable life in bannishment.-_-
I know, I know............I deserve it.
Boogyman
05-07-2006, 11:01
Wow, Kinslayer. Have you thought of visiting your local S&M club? They might be able to take care of that for you... :lol:
Hey, 2A's are a dime a dozen. Sounds like a great idea. Now if it had been a Garand or the like, I'd be in the crowd with my own basket of rotten fruit...:rolleyes:
Kinslayer
05-07-2006, 19:26
Hey Boogyman,
Well it might make some of the purists on the board feel better to know that I grimaced and shuddered with every cut I made on that rifle.
I thought it would make the perfect truck gun for Wisconsin. We can only transport weapons empty and encased here. The 12 round magazine can be loaded and in the glove box though, which makes loading the rifle a little faster than filling the tube mag on a shotgun or lever gun.Although as a lefty I do like lever guns. The Enfeild design is also good for the lefty, as the bolt handle is to the rear of the trigger guard, and makes it easy for the lefty to cross over to the bolt handle and grab it with the left thumb.Thats not to easy to do with a mauser as the bolt handle is forward of the trigger.The 30-40 Krag is easy on leftys also.
I could have just picked up a No. 5 but the wandering zero made me shy away.The Ishy should'nt have that problem when its done. I also liked the fact they were built from molychrome steel and come in my favorite round 7.62x51. I always thought the No. 5 jungle carbine was the sharpest looking milsurp bolt action around.
cowboy117
05-07-2006, 21:21
This may suprise those that know how many guns I have, but my favorite truck gun for keeping stashed under the seat is an old JC Higgins .410 pump shotgun with the barrel cut down to legal limit and the stock shortened. It has rifle sights on it, and I carry shotshells and rifled slugs in the glove compartment. I killed a deer once at 80 yards with a rifled slug, and I can't count all the squirrel and rabbit that have ended up in the strew pot thanks to this little gun! :D
Plus I only paid $100 bucks for it, so if it gets stolen no big loss. Excellent choice!Depends what the purpose is for truck gun[protection,varmints,etc.]What i use is a Mini 14,with a Butler Creek folder,in a 33'' Tactical case made of nylon,canvas or whatever.Case has pockets for extra mags and is small enough to hide under seat.Case provides protection also,of course, for flying thru the woods!Don't want your gun flying into the dash!Been there,done that!:lol:
i have carried a snake charmer .410, remington 870, or a .22LR from the time i was in highschool up until i was 22 or so, every since then i have carried a beretta .40 in my truck.
Boogyman
05-09-2006, 00:47
I dunno, maybe I'm way off here, or maybe it's the difference between city folks and country folks, but it seems to me there's a pretty wide spectrum of what people consider a "truck gun" to be.
Being an ol' country boy, what I consider a truck gun is usually an old beater that clunks around either in the rack or under the seat, and can be used for a wide variety of purposes, from shooting a pesky varmint, to bagging a rabbit or two for the stewpot, or taking advantage of that deer standing in the field on your way home from work. All guns can more or less be used for protection, but many of us have carry permits for our serious pistols. Plus a truck gun is definitely not gonna be worth and arm and a leg, because it's always rattling around in the cab somewhere, and if it gets lost or stolen no big loss.
Some of you guys have chosen some high dollar pieces to call "truck guns", others have talked about carrying 2-3 different weapons, and a few seem to be prepared for a war to break out on your way to the store! :blink:
To me, a truck gun is an all-around utility gun, like the pocketknife I carry, or the pliers, screwdrivers and duct tape in the glovebox. I mean, if you shoot a rabbit with a 1911 or a Mini-14 there ain't gonna be much left to eat! And I'd sure hate to have a $500 gun getting banged up on the floor, or end up missing or stolen! :o
So what do ya'll mean by "truck gun" anyway? I'd just like to know, that's all! :rolleyes:
gunrun45
05-09-2006, 01:00
I was thinking a mix of both when I originally posted the thread.
Obviously I carry to take care of buisness on or off duty (nothing like having someone tell you the color of your house and then that they are going to kill you). I also spend a lot of time in the back country and use the gun for the "pocket knife" purpose also. I guess I'm a weird mix because of my profession.
Before I was a police officer I carried a "pocket knife" verison though and enjoyed its usefull nature very much. I'm a kinda high-speed-low-drag kinda guy though and if I don't have a real use for it I tend to chuck it or not buy it in the first place.
Zydeco76
05-10-2006, 08:08
To me a truck gun is an inexpensive reliable firearm. Depending on what your woods are like it may be anything from a .22 to a 45-70. I live in the country but not that far into the country. I would'nt poach anything from my truck unless I was hungry. State laws forbid it. However I have used my Mini14 to finish a deer after it was hit by a car. No use in letting it go to waste. I carry mine as a defensive weapon. I like my mini for this purpose because it is very compact with a 16inch barrel and a folder stock. It's also extremely reliable. I live right in the middle of Katrinaland. Things are alot different around here now. ALOT of people from out of town. Also I work in armed security so its nice to have a little firepower near by. When I lived out in SD I carried a .270. I did'nt feel the need to carry anything for defence.
cowboy117
05-10-2006, 09:19
'Boogymans quote-----'So what do ya'll mean by "truck gun" anyway? I'd just like to know, that's all!'' :rolleyes:Depends where you live for one thing.I never leave a gun in my truck when i go in for the night,so i will carry a more expensive weapon than if i left it in the truck all of the time.If you live far enough in the country that you feel comfortable leaving it in truck,a cheaper weapon is in order.
Boogyman
05-10-2006, 13:18
I live in the country but not that far into the country. I would'nt poach anything from my truck unless I was hungry. State laws forbid it.
I do live "that far" into the country, but I never said I "poached" anything, I have a hunting license with the proper tags on my person at all times, and follow the seasonal rules and limits even on my own property.
However there are many families in this area that are pretty durn poor, and a man taking an out-of-season deer to feed his family is perfectly acceptable. Thus the type of "truck gun" normally carried in these parts is generally an all-around game-getter.
FatDaddy
05-10-2006, 19:21
Viol8r,
Nice Mini. What kind of rear aperture sight is that? Looks like a big improvment over the stock sight.
SPARTEN117
05-10-2006, 20:09
...what could be a better truck gun than this ?
http://www.viol8r.com/guns/mockbldarm.JPG
this ;)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3a/SPRCrane.jpg/800px-SPRCrane.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3a/SPRCrane.jpg)
backed up by this
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b314/operator1/DSC00715.jpg
SPARTEN117
05-10-2006, 20:43
at least you got the pistol right:lol:
Boogyman
05-10-2006, 21:35
I threw this in the back the other day...
http://www.metalstorm.com/freedomweb/clientuploads/news/Redback_Mount_Firing_web.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3a/SPRCrane.jpg/800px-SPRCrane.jpg
what optic is that, im lookin to get rid of my varmint scope and get something more practical
SPARTEN117
05-11-2006, 06:26
Unfortunitly those weapons are not mine:( , however my guess is a leupold LR/T Illuminated ratical.
jumpluff
05-11-2006, 10:58
O.K....I have made up my mind....I am riding with Boogy!:lol:
I threw this in the back the other day...
http://www.metalstorm.com/freedomweb/clientuploads/news/Redback_Mount_Firing_web.jpg
Here is my pic. A modified Savage/Stevens 200 in .308.
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www.shawnstactical.com/truckgun.html
hawkdome
05-14-2006, 14:58
Never had to shoot a truck, but a 45/70 will taker out the fan and radioator.
Zydeco76
05-16-2006, 23:27
That mini looks very much like mine. I have a diff muzzle break on mine. I also have a 20inch AR15 bushmaster. I think it would make a lousy truck gun. Have you very tried to manuver a full sized rifle in a truck? BTW in MS that mini would be perfectly legal riding on your seat.
Boogy,
I did'nt mean to imply that you were a poacher. You see shooting from a vehicle is patently illegal here. When I lived in SD I relied on dear meat to feed my family. However down here in MS the dear are small and I can afford to buy food now. If I do go hunting I bring a hunting rifle or shotgun. Although I would'nt hesitate to take a dear with my mini if I got hungry. No it would'nt be my first choice but it works.
Boogyman
05-17-2006, 00:09
Boogy,
I did'nt mean to imply that you were a poacher. You see shooting from a vehicle is patently illegal here.
Understood, but I also never said anything about "shooting from a vehicle" either. There is nothing illegal about parking your truck, grabbing your "truck gun", and heading into the woods or across a field in search of game during hunting season.
gunrun45
05-17-2006, 01:04
I don't know boogy, that 4 barrel grenade launching system would be heavy to carry thourgh a field by hand :)
Boogyman
05-17-2006, 08:29
I don't know boogy, that 4 barrel grenade launching system would be heavy to carry thourgh a field by hand :)
He hee! You got me there, Gunrun... :lol:
texasrick
06-02-2006, 02:51
I think I understand yor idea of a "truck gun", Boogy. I also live WAY out in the country and a truck gun must be able to handle any and all game you may encounter.
At first thought a .22LR (read that Ruger 10/22) seems right, but in my area it's not uncommon to run across wild hogs just begging to become pork chops. While I've taken deer and hogs with a .22LR.....it's hardly the gun one would choose as perfect for game that large. Something heavier, yet still able to take a rabbit without excessive damage is called for.
Since I tend to wear a handgun of some sort at all times, the main truck gun for me tends to be geared toward larger game. The handgun is used for small game. My Marlin .45-70 tends to get a lot of truck time during the off season (just cause I like it), but my most often carried long gun is a Ruger .44 Carbine. It's short, light, easily handlesd in a truck and powerful eough for anything that needs shooting.
Deer season calls for something with just a little more reach (the deer across the field idea) and a Ruger 77 MkII Manlicher carbine in .308 gets the nod. Once again easy to handle in a truck, but able to reach out to 300+ yards if needed.
I'm a single action guy so my handgun is usually a .32-20. I love that gun for a small game round with big game possibility. Got to be careful with shot placement but the little .32-20 can do it all.
Sometimes I like to move up to the .45LC if bigger game seems likely and a .22 LR (Ruger Target auto) is carried if rabbit / squirrel is the main target.
By the way, your comment bout a .45 being too much for edible game is not exactly true. My main "rabbit gun" for years was a 1911 in .45acp........just shoot them in the head and no meat damage is done (they seldom run off when shot with a .45 either).
The rifle / handgun combo seems to cover all bases for me.........but in reality I seldom limit myself so much. Tend to carry 4 to 6 guns at all times from .22s to shotguns (friends refer to my Bronco as the rolling arsenal).
In my state our firearms ride in the trunk unloaded. I wouldn't leave a firearm in a vehicle unattened as the car/truck may get stolen or broken into. If I could it would be Marlin 336.
texasrick
06-02-2006, 19:06
In the trunk???........UNLOADED???
You might want to consider finding another state............perhaps one that still believes in freedom and the constitution
Yep in the trunk. However, if you have a CCW then your revolver or pistol is on your person. Also looking to move. Maybe the Republic of Texas could use another citizen.
texasrick
06-03-2006, 18:42
We can always make room for a shootist citizen, but if you come down......you might want to claim you're an islamic terrorist. Would likely be better recieved than a Damnyankee.........note: that's one word in Texas, Damnyankee.
Just kidding, in truth we are very understanding about those who saw the error of their ways and moved to the Great State. In two or three generations your grandchildren might be considered natives.
Mannlicher
06-03-2006, 18:47
When out in the truck, I always have a handgun. Often I slip one of the Russian SKS rifles into the pocket that runs along the front of the seat. I like the NORINCO copper washed steel core ammo.
Texasrick,
Damnyankee, been called that before in St Augustine, FL. Anyway, I already have my BBQ guns so if and when I get down to Texas I might fit in until I open my mouth, no accent.
My truck gun i a Mosin Nagant M44. I am a vinyl and hardwood installer. I work out of a pickup with a shell. The bed has a false floor with two drawers one for my tools an one for my M44. I keep a few M1 bandoleers with 7.62x54R on striper clips behind my seat. I work in Stockton it's nice to know i have it. Mostly i carry it so any time i want i can go after work straight to the range for a few hours on the way home. Mike
TwinRugers
06-11-2006, 14:02
I like that STS carbine!
chewybaca67
06-27-2006, 16:40
Hmmmm. I like this question. When on the Rez. or out in the Las Vegas, NM area, I like the idea of my Stainless Mini-30. It'll take a beating, rust is a very minor concern, and the 7.62x39 will handle most anything in the Southwest. For say.......more urban areas.......I think if I had to have a longarm, I'd like my Kel-tec sub-2000 in .40 cal with Glock mags. Why that? Well, just cause. Plus it can be folded for a very compact package and inconspicious auto storage. Shoot man, ya' can even fit it inside the spare tire cloth cover in a Jeep!!! Is it effective? I don't have a chrony, but I'd sure like to know waht a 35 grain .40 cal. gold dot would do outta a 16 inch barrel.
A Yugo SKS with a synthetic stock. It can get knocked around or even stolen and won't break my heart (or the bank).
Oswald2001
09-30-2006, 11:27
"A Yugo SKS with a synthetic stock. It can get knocked around or even stolen and won't break my heart (or the bank)."
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+1
Round is hard hitting enough.
Cheap is important because possibility of theft is an unfortunate factor in the decision.
SKS is rugged. Especially with a synthetic stock.
Keep an SKS chest rig loaded with ammo on strippers along with the rifle and you have a very compact inexpensive rig with 200 rounds always at the ready.
My daily carry pistol is a 9mm. The concept of a 9mm carbine to go along with the handgun appeals to me. I picked up an almost new Hi-Point 995 carbine & 3- 10 rd mags earlier in the year for under $150. With the stock ghost ring rear and ring with post front sights, it will shoot into 2" at 50yds with factory ammo it likes.
That is WAY better then I can shoot with the S&W CS9.
I am working out the details of how to secure this little carbine in my car.
My truck gun is a G21 with a few extra hi-cap mags.
Travis Morgan
10-16-2007, 21:20
My Winchester model 94 in .30-30. Hardly any place in the lower 48 that it would not be enough gun. Hold seven in the mag, on in the tube, handles quick, works pretty well on varmints out to about 150 yards, for me. I've never managed to break one, either.
dakota kid
10-16-2007, 22:08
My main truck gun is my ruger mark II. i live in a state where it is still 100% legal to shoot raccoons, rodents (ground squirrels, paire dogs), coyotees and foxes out of the window with the engine running. If you don't believe me look up the rules on www.sdgfp.info The .22 is the main gun sometimes i'll take my .17 HMR. since i don't expect to be mugged out on a gravel road. If i am driving across the state or to Soiux falls i take the .45 and 4 mags loaded with hydroshocks
Snapping Twig
10-16-2007, 23:39
I'd have to go with a mini 30. I can't carry anything in my truck unless it's in the back, unloaded and locked up seperate from the ammo. I call BS, but I have hope that California will one day revert to a U.S. Territory and observe the Constitution and Bill of Rights. I know, I'm a dreamer...
Mini 30 is short, powerful and semi auto. Totally reliable and mine is accurate to 4" at 100 yards. I intend to get it down to half that soon. Perfect for zombie attack or game harvest.
Zydeco76
10-22-2007, 13:10
I have recently changed how I view the truck gun. I had some kids messing around with the cars a month ago in the middle of the night. I heard my wifes cardoor shut. So I grabed the necasary tool to investigate and went outside. They must have heard me becasue all I saw were the backs of their feet. I called the sherrif and made a report.
I had a pistol in my truck. If they had gotten to my pistol before I came out, would they have run? I could have walked right into an ambush that I helped create. I now carry my pistol inside everynight. I am not sure how to do this with a longarm without the neighbors thinking I am a psychopath. Just think about what your doing. I understand why you want a gun in the truck. Just understand that the money is not the only price that could be paid by alowing a thief to steal it.
Travis Morgan
10-22-2007, 13:35
I have recently changed how I view the truck gun. I had some kids messing around with the cars a month ago in the middle of the night. I heard my wifes cardoor shut. So I grabed the necasary tool to investigate and went outside. They must have heard me becasue all I saw were the backs of their feet. I called the sherrif and made a report.
I had a pistol in my truck. If they had gotten to my pistol before I came out, would they have run? I could have walked right into an ambush that I helped create. I now carry my pistol inside everynight. I am not sure how to do this with a longarm without the neighbors thinking I am a psychopath. Just think about what your doing. I understand why you want a gun in the truck. Just understand that the money is not the only price that could be paid by alowing a thief to steal it.
Zydeco,
The neighbors get used to it. Mine did. In fact, some ask to go shooting with me. This means when I take them, I can educate them. If they own a 9mm and a shotgun, I can convince them to use the shotgun for home defense. This keeps stray bullets out of me and my house.
fragout2000
10-23-2007, 17:16
Good post. Lots of ideas here. I used to have a dedicated truck gun, but have since re-evaluated that decision, and decided against having a specific gun to leave in my vehicle. The decision is a personal choice based on the following conclusions......
Posible theft that could lead to the following.....
Arming someone that could use my own weapon against me and mine, or someone else.
If I walk away from my vehicle and I know that there is a gun in it, I feel that I have just left that gun unsecured, whether it's locked up in the truck, and even inside a locked garage.
With that being said, My dedicated truck gun would be my CCW handgun, and my " other truck guns" would be these two..............(most of the time)
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r178/fragout2000/DSCN0940.jpg
I dont leave any type of gun in my vehicle, unless I'm real close to said vehicle.;)
GaryMalibou
10-23-2007, 18:01
Living in the pretty much middle of a large city my truck gun is usually my .357 witha 4" barrel. If its not that, its the .45. Carjacking and armed robbery are awful here. I prefer the revolver for the double action and pure simplicity. I highly doubt i will ever need more than 6 six shots.
Travis Morgan
10-23-2007, 20:17
I'm kinda against the "dedicated truck gun" concept. People that leave a gun in the truck all the time tend to not maintain that gun as well as they should. Hell, I've been guilty of it! I have a particular rifle I'd call my "truck gun", but I make it a point to be sure that I bring it inside about half of the time. That way, in the evening, when I'm just sitting around, I'm more likely to clean it up, check for rust, make sure it's lubed, etc..
magnomark
10-23-2007, 22:01
;)You can always leave them locked in a "strong box" in the vehicle-granted you will probably need to have one custom built to accomodate the particular firearm/vehicle.They work-I've seen them.;)
fragout2000
10-28-2007, 10:54
If they steal the vehicle, they steal the strong box, and whatever is in it. Just my .02, but I still feel that I'm leaving a weapon unsecured.
Enforcer
11-09-2007, 02:44
Has anyone ever contemplated a Mosin Nagant? I don't think you can find anything else as rugged, cheap, and with inexpensive ammo. Think of tossing in a Mosin Nagant M44, 30 cheap surplus rounds on strippers in the ammo pouch that came with the rifle.
Camera man
11-09-2007, 11:26
A $50.00 NEF/H&R single shot 12 ga. bbk cut to 18 1/2 in. Put on one of the $10.00 shell holders on the stock. 2 slugs, 2 OO buck and a 7 1/2 shot. That would take care of all your problems. Be it 2 legged, 4 legged or no legged. If it gets gone. Your out $60.00.
Zydeco76
11-09-2007, 11:51
Enforcer,
Yes I have been thinking about that. They are great rifles for the money. Careful with the corrosive ammo though. It only takes forgeting once and your accuracy is gone.
uncle jerky
11-22-2007, 12:38
My current choice is the Ruger PC9 (Police Carbine) in 9mm. Mine has 4, 15 round and 1 32 round magazine and a variable scope on Ruger rings...very solid,strong,wieldy,reliable gun.On the highway, in the city or on my ranch,this carbine is very versatile.
Dantheman
12-16-2007, 12:19
I have a Springfield 840 carbine (same as Savage 340) in 30-30 with a Weaver 400 Classic mounted. Great truck gun.
It is scarey accurate with 125 gr ballistic tips...
Dan
Marlin 45 carbine
12-16-2007, 15:02
post #69 is good, or an SK w/stripper clips.
A $50.00 NEF/H&R single shot 12 ga. bbk cut to 18 1/2 in. Put on one of the $10.00 shell holders on the stock. 2 slugs, 2 OO buck and a 7 1/2 shot. That would take care of all your problems. Be it 2 legged, 4 legged or no legged. If it gets gone. Your out $60.00.
Perfect! But I never leave it assembled, always apart. It is for emergencies, not quick acess and a cheap/free cable lock will keep it from being used by those who shouldn't. One that I carried years ago was a AR-7, stuff all the stuff in a stock, stick it up behind the seat under the fabric, and let it be.
I suppose if I were to keep a truck gun instead of the glock on the hip, it would be my AK underfolder.
I am surprised that I have only seen one other person useing the famous mod 94 30-30 as a truck gun. Short, fast, and plenty of power to take down most north american game. The only problem with mine is it is it's a family heirloom, so old it worth some money.
I just picked up a "new" truck gun. It is one of those fine pieces of American workmanship, a HiPoint 40s&w. Now before some get their panties all twisted I have owned a Hi-Point before. Biggest mistake I ever made was letting it go in a deal. They are very dependable, inexpensive, and fairly accurate. If they become a problem, the company will fix them up for free. They have the best customer service around. It will rattle around and work out fine, came with extra magazines and someother goodies. I have no fear of zombies and trolls. Besides, I usually always have a sidearm anyway with me.
I consider my truck gun more as a defensive weapon. That being the case, I use a Remington Express 20 ga with 20" barrel and remchokes. Have a variety of chamber candy on hand from buck to bird shot as with the three choke tubes it can be used for much more than defense. I keep the imp cyl tube screwed in the barrel with mod and full in the console along with spare ammos. ymmv
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torquemada055
05-31-2008, 08:38
My current truck gun is this one,
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x140/torquemada55/Picture001.jpg
It fit's behind the seat in a carry bin and is handy in small spaces.
then again, being .308 with a 20 round mag helps too.
Never had to shoot a truck, but a 45/70 will taker out the fan and radioator.
A .308 will take care of the transmission. :o from experience...
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collegeb
05-31-2008, 16:29
will constant exposure to heat or cold cause a problem with a truck gun?
Have to attend to seasonal maintenance as always. If its freezing out, minimal lube. If really hot, normally nothing special. Rotate any rounds out periodically.
I've got both an SKS and a 94, and the 94 comes out of the scabbard alot smoother, no front sight sticking up like the SKS. I do wish I had one in something besides .30-30 though. Limits the number of rounds on board.
Only real complication is they both keep going up in value. A battered-on-the-outside Mini-14 would probably be my best truck gun. Detachable mags, minimal snags, good to a couple hundred yards. Time to go shopping!
Travis Morgan
06-02-2008, 20:26
Mark,
You might look at a .92 in .45 Colt or .454 Casull.
I'd love a Trapper Carbine in .44 or .45, but most are way too much Dinero.
I'm still keeping my eyes open for a 2nd hand one. Maybe someone will sell theirs so they can buy gas.
Travis Morgan
06-04-2008, 03:51
I've got a 90% trapper in .30-30 I'm thinking I'd like to trade for one in .45.
Agood cheap truck gun would be the Moisin-Nagant model 38, or 44 if you want a bayonet. Cheap, adequately accurate and plenty powerful.
You could always use the bayonet to roast marshmallows.
As in, see Enforcer's post above.
Maccabee
06-05-2008, 22:20
Has anyone ever contemplated a Mosin Nagant? I don't think you can find anything else as rugged, cheap, and with inexpensive ammo. Think of tossing in a Mosin Nagant M44, 30 cheap surplus rounds on strippers in the ammo pouch that came with the rifle.
Gander mountain has em for 150 Bux. I'd remove the bayonet meself. But it is a Good Deal. SKS Carbines too...
CR ><>
I have finished my T56SHTF and it will ride in my truck from time to time.
http://www.athenswater.com/images/T56SHTF-06-04-08-001.jpg
ponyboyc
06-06-2008, 08:02
+1 With Gossman
I have a Hipoint also for a truck gun, but mine is just a 9mm. I have heard horror stories about them, but have had no probs with mine nor the ones that four of my shooting pals have. Its cheap ammo to plink with, and they will shoot +P ammo for self defense. It is however the ugliest factory stocked firearm I have ever owned. But thanks to ATI it is now, at the most, a 6 packer. I have less than 3 bills in the entire gun and two 15rnd clips.
My 35 Rem. lever action would be my choice, except for the fact that its in such good condition and its becoming a family herloom. So I vote yes for my SKS. Its a beater, reliable and powerfull enough for most uses.
uncle jerky
06-07-2008, 11:58
In my suv, i sometimes carry my Baikal over and under double barrel 30.06.It looks like an O&U shotgun,but both barrels are 30.06 with double truggers.The rifle breaks open and breaks down for transport just like a some highend shotguns.Neat gun, but it kicks like mule:blink:
Agood cheap truck gun would be the Moisin-Nagant model 38, or 44 if you want a bayonet. Cheap, adequately accurate and plenty powerful.
You could always use the bayonet to roast marshmallows.
As in, see Enforcer's post above.
The muzzle blast should make 'em nice and toasty...
Ignition Override
06-07-2008, 14:30
Gunrun45:
Have you bought a really reliable aftermarket mag. for the Mini 30, which needed no rework?
uncle jerky
06-07-2008, 15:50
Gunrun45:
Have you bought a really reliable aftermarket mag. for the Mini 30, which needed no rework?
Try Pro Mag's 10 rounder. It worked 100% in mine.
deersniper6
06-07-2008, 18:57
dont rule out the remington model 7. They are small light bolt guns and quite comfortable.
Travis Morgan
06-07-2008, 22:11
In my suv, i sometimes carry my Baikal over and under double barrel 30.06.It looks like an O&U shotgun,but both barrels are 30.06 with double truggers.The rifle breaks open and breaks down for transport just like a some highend shotguns.Neat gun, but it kicks like mule:blink:
I believe I'm gonna need pics of that! Any links to where they carry them? Something like that would rock in .338 or better, for Alaska, I'd think.
Ignition Override
06-08-2008, 01:24
Thanks Uncle Jerky:
My Mini "Guru" has said that Ruger will produce their own higher-cap. mag soon. The three aftermarket mags which the seller shipped with my almost-new Mini 30 were mostly junk, and all silver metal. Don't think that any say Promag.
If the prices are low for the 10-rounder, it might be better to buy it soon before there is talk from Congress about banning some of these.
Would polymer be a safer bet in general, than metal? The plastic 30-round for my Mini 14 has been perfect, fits really well, although only put about 4-8 rounds each time (to reduce ammo consumption) and used it about four times.
I'm fairly new to all of this, so have no background with which to compare.
1. Swallow and don't think about what ammo is costing right now.
2. Load your mags to capacity.
3. Shoot purposefully, either to sight in or for groups, so they aren't just
burnishing the feed lips for you.
Any problems are likely to show up in the first few rounds out of the mag.
You need to put at least 5 mags-full through each mag to know for sure how it will run in the long term.
Most rifles and mags tend to work better the more rounds are put through them. It's like breaking in a new engine...the parts need to mate to each other.
Mag fit and quality tend to be hit and miss (except for factory Ruger), but in my experience 30s give more trouble than 20s and are touchier to tweak. I've got some polymer pro-mags that work fine. The only 30s I own now are AR mags.
uncle jerky
06-08-2008, 12:18
I believe I'm gonna need pics of that! Any links to where they carry them? Something like that would rock in .338 or better, for Alaska, I'd think.
See www.baikalcanada.com and look under rifle/combos for the IZH-94 Express rifle in 30.06. IZH is short for IZHMASH, the fabled Russian arms maker.
Travis Morgan
06-08-2008, 14:26
For my mini-14, when I still had it, the best mags I found were Eagle 10 round polymers, in a smoky color. Unfortunately, they stopped making them, and I even had the person I was talking to ask around the office, just to see if anyone had a box of the stashed somewhere. :D
As I recall, she said they were making a 20 rounder. I thought the ten rounder was perfect for coyote hunting, inc ase I ended up with multiple fast moving targets.
I actually have an old factory 10 round mag. Flat metal floorplate, not polymer. I haven't gotten around to it but I'd like to get a few aftermarket 10s for messing with different loads off a bench.
ratshooter
06-08-2008, 16:55
When John Moses Browning invented the model 94 he said "This is the perfect truck gun". By the way, Whats a truck?
uncle jerky
06-10-2008, 00:25
I bet a lot of folks use 22 rifles for their truck gun:)
Depends on the sort of varmints around your area...;)
COBRADOC
06-10-2008, 21:01
Depends on the sort of varmints around your area...;)
Most of the varmints in my part of the country are two-legged and will steal anything they see that isn't tied down - sometimes they will even steal that. That's why I prefer a handgun for the truck - it's easier to hide and can easily be taken inside when I exit my truck.
uncle jerky
06-10-2008, 23:18
I keep either a Raven 25 pistol or FIE Titan 25 pistol, each with a spare mag, in the center console of the 4 wheel drive SUV and a loaded 38 special snubby behind my back between the seat bottom and seat back cushions.A loaded, six round speed loader is close by. I also load up my Plainfield M1carbine and its 15 round mag and keep a loaded spare 15 rounder and a 5 rounder in reach. The M1 has an underfolder,pistol grip,wood and steel set up, so it is very compact,can be fired machine-gun style or quickly folded open,carbine style for longer shots.Each of these 3 weapons conceal easily in my vehicle for out in the country or city duty,where they can be deployed lickidy split:rolleyes:
Travis Morgan
06-11-2008, 20:43
I keep either a Raven 25 pistol or FIE Titan 25 pistol, each with a spare mag, in the center console of the 4 wheel drive SUV and a loaded 38 special snubby behind my back between the seat bottom and seat back cushions.A loaded, six round speed loader is close by. I also load up my Plainfield M1carbine and its 15 round mag and keep a loaded spare 15 rounder and a 5 rounder in reach. The M1 has an underfolder,pistol grip,wood and steel set up, so it is very compact,can be fired machine-gun style or quickly folded open,carbine style for longer shots.Each of these 3 weapons conceal easily in my vehicle for out in the country or city duty,where they can be deployed lickidy split:rolleyes:
Okay, Tackleberry, I think that's enough armament to get you to the quickshop and back!;)
uncle jerky
06-11-2008, 22:36
Okay, Tackleberry, I think that's enough armament to get you to the quickshop and back!;)
This ole boy scout bees prepared:D
Travis Morgan
06-12-2008, 06:34
Sorry, .......I just had to. After about the third gun, I had a vision of Police Academy III (?), where they're at some convention, and Tackleberry has gathered all the guns at the range in a pile, and refuses to let anyone else have one.
That, or when he and the hot blonde were about to get it on, and as they undress, they pull out gun after gun after gun.........
But really, I have no room to talk, especially since my back surgery. Loaded guns in every room. I even mounted a holster on my Lazy Boy recliner. My wife was NOT impressed.
collegeb
06-12-2008, 06:38
holster on the lazyboy good one! :D:usa::2guns:
Travis Morgan
06-12-2008, 07:02
I'm not gonna get off my ass, just to shoot someone. :lol: Plus, the handgun will keep 'em busy with my left one, while I get the Mossberg in action.;)
I'm just dying to invite some Jehovah's witnesses in. Let's see how THEY like being made to feel awkward! :angry:
I keep a friend close by starting when the temperatures climb to "leave the front door open" numbers. The screen has a lock, but everyone knows what those are worth.
I like to set up the cleaning cradle in front of the recliner and do maintenance while watching History Channel or somesuch. The aroma of Hoppe's generally makes visitors nervous. The sight of the waiting line of guns has made a few leave!
uncle jerky
06-12-2008, 12:46
Sorry, .......I just had to. After about the third gun, I had a vision of Police Academy III (?), where they're at some convention, and Tackleberry has gathered all the guns at the range in a pile, and refuses to let anyone else have one.
That, or when he and the hot blonde were about to get it on, and as they undress, they pull out gun after gun after gun.........
But really, I have no room to talk, especially since my back surgery. Loaded guns in every room. I even mounted a holster on my Lazy Boy recliner. My wife was NOT impressed.
I mounted a thumbbreak holster on my twin bed's frame on its right side.A 38 special sleeps there next to me. I'm right handed, so all I have to do is reach down,open the holster and draw.It's a heck of a lot faster and more convenient than jumping up or reaching over to the nightstand drawer,only to pull out a pair of socks,or whatever<_<
Getting OT...I think we can agree that the best truck gun is short, easy to unrack or draw from a holster or scabbard, and wouldn't result in a pronounced period of grief and withdrawal if stolen. Most of all, the best one is the one with you in the truck.
deersniper6
06-12-2008, 19:43
Mine is my mini-14.
I think a folding stock M1 Carbine would be a perfect truck gun. You could fire it folded while at the drivers seat or unfold it when you get out of the vehicle.
deersniper6
06-13-2008, 18:31
I think a folding stock M1 Carbine would be a perfect truck gun. You could fire it folded while at the drivers seat or unfold it when you get out of the vehicle.
or just get a folding stock for your mini-14. ammo is cheaper.
I just picked up 2 mini's in the last few weeks for "truck gun" duty. (always gotta have at least 2....never know when you might have to cannabalize to keep one running...at least thats my justification, lol)
For years my truck gun has been a CAR/M4 or FAL carbine.....but we recently moved to a new part of the state and I've been spending alot of time in the hills prospecting/exploring.....sometimes spending 8-10 hours away from the vehicle.
The thought of losing a rifle in the 4 digit range makes me sick....yet I always like to have a rifle handy.
The other "perfect choice" in my opinion is a 30-30 carbine. Out here, in the rural areas, a 30-30 in a rack is a very common sight. Go by a church in one of the rural areas on a Sunday morning, and half the trucks there will have a 30-30 or a 22 rifle in it. The 30-30 (or lever action in general) is still as American as "apple pie", and if you want a "low profile" rifle that doesn't get a second look (at least around here)...thats also VERY capable ballistically, its always a good choice.
Generally, the price of a nice used example will be half of even what a mini goes for...so hurts alot less if something happened to it, also. I have several, and almost went with one for the truck...but the 20 rd mag in the mini makes me feel better.
deersniper6
06-15-2008, 16:08
I just picked up 2 mini's in the last few weeks for "truck gun" duty. (always gotta have at least 2....never know when you might have to cannabalize to keep one running...at least thats my justification, lol)
For years my truck gun has been a CAR/M4 or FAL carbine.....but we recently moved to a new part of the state and I've been spending alot of time in the hills prospecting/exploring.....sometimes spending 8-10 hours away from the vehicle.
The thought of losing a rifle in the 4 digit range makes me sick....yet I always like to have a rifle handy.
The other "perfect choice" in my opinion is a 30-30 carbine. Out here, in the rural areas, a 30-30 in a rack is a very common sight. Go by a church in one of the rural areas on a Sunday morning, and half the trucks there will have a 30-30 or a 22 rifle in it. The 30-30 (or lever action in general) is still as American as "apple pie", and if you want a "low profile" rifle that doesn't get a second look (at least around here)...thats also VERY capable ballistically, its always a good choice.
Generally, the price of a nice used example will be half of even what a mini goes for...so hurts alot less if something happened to it, also. I have several, and almost went with one for the truck...but the 20 rd mag in the mini makes me feel better.
Never been a fan of the 30-30, i just dont like how they shoot, but a lever gun is more PC than an assault looking weapon. I have heard that the Accelerators are an improvement though.
Never been a fan of the 30-30, i just dont like how they shoot, but a lever gun is more PC than an assault looking weapon. I have heard that the Accelerators are an improvement though.
Have to admit though, there isn't anything slicker to pull from a scabbard than a fully loaded levergun. In a pistol caliber, plenty of firepower, and under 100 yards every bit as hard hitting as an AK. Not my favorite overall but I do own one. Got to!
deersniper6
06-15-2008, 21:14
I would say the best as far as cost/ammo cost/firepower is probably an SKS in the end. If range is a factor, then it becomes a good no frills bolt gun.
or just get a folding stock for your mini-14. ammo is cheaper.
The muzzle blast from a Mini is quite a bit worse than a M1 Carbine. I wouldn't fire a Mini from inside the car...............;)
deersniper6
06-16-2008, 05:41
The muzzle blast from a Mini is quite a bit worse than a M1 Carbine. I wouldn't fire a Mini from inside the car...............;)
LOL you should worry more about the empty case that richochets around the cab. :lol:
If you can't get the muzzle of either to poke out the window, you need to trade-in your limo.
Travis Morgan
06-16-2008, 22:58
When I was 21, I fired a .357 from the cab of an S-10. I couldn't hear for about two weeks, and I have permanent hearing damage. Ten years later, my ears still ring like I just got slapped in the ear.
I thought that since I was holding it outside the cab, resting on the mirror, the blast wouldn't be so bad. Boy, was I wrong!
Rifles generally aren't as brutal, but there's a reason I keep earplugs on the rearview, and extras in the glove box.
Well, all you had to do was roll down the other window. The closed box effect magnifies the concussion. Any handgun at arms length has the potential to give you a permanent "huh?".
There's power in rifle muzzleblast. I was shooting across the hood of my former truck, and a rock pit suddenly turned into a long winding road heading across the windshield. (.30-'06)
When I was 21, I fired a .357 from the cab of an S-10. I couldn't hear for about two weeks, and I have permanent hearing damage. Ten years later, my ears still ring like I just got slapped in the ear.
I thought that since I was holding it outside the cab, resting on the mirror, the blast wouldn't be so bad. Boy, was I wrong!
Rifles generally aren't as brutal, but there's a reason I keep earplugs on the rearview, and extras in the glove box.
I did the same with a 22 , with both windows open, many years ago. Brutal is the right word..
DillonAreo Truck Gun (http://navlog.org/q_car.wmv) :)
Travis Morgan
06-17-2008, 20:30
DillonAreo Truck Gun (http://navlog.org/q_car.wmv) :)
If we're allowed full auto as a choice, it'd be a consideration, as would the M-2. Of course, I'd only consider it if it started raining free ammo at my place.
I'll say...I thought .50BMG was spendy before.
If I was going to choose the M2 I'd have to put it on a deuce and a half. I'd be afraid the weight of the weapon and loadout of ammo would ruin the rear springs on my half-ton.
kid_couteau
06-18-2008, 08:15
Dillon is a cool gun but you are out of luck if you have to abandon the vehicle
Kid
Travis Morgan
06-18-2008, 09:29
If you run that sucker dry, or have to abandon it, you're pretty much screwed, anyway! ;)
Oh I don't know....good luck would be not having to hump that monster overland...
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