AR mods

[willyjixx]

i had a standard post ban bushmaster with a 20bbl.
a friend of mine needed an upper for a parts gun so we did some swappin.

now i have a 14.5 in M4 upper with the stepped barrel and a 1.5 vortec FH.
coming soon is my ACE stock from midway. i still have the A2 buttstock on it.

pretty excited. never really had a modded up a rifle before. most i have ever done to change a gun of mine was put a pistol grip on my mossberg 500 which i hated. (could have been the 3 in shells we put through it that day) and a M-14 style FH oon my mini 14. decent rifle. hated that damn ranch rifle site. if they ever get a decent priced magazine for them (less then 20$ for a 20 rd mag) i might get another one. just not the ranch.

next after the stock will be a Fulton Armory front sling mount weaver rail. it also hooks into the bayo lug (i have one now :D ) and a pentagon L2 flashlight (http://www.pentagonlight.com/item_detail.cfm__id.144) to mount to the front.

after that im not sure what ill do really. id like to put an optic on it but i really have no idea what to go with. Acog, eotech, etc, etc

this is mostly a plinker/fun rifle with some occasional coyote and rabbit shootin. it will do a lot of time in the truck. probably double as an HD gun too.

thanks. just thought id share what im doing. i would appreciate any feedback or questions

Don.

This thread was moved per Don's request......

TD

[willyjixx]

Got the Ace stock put on!

still gotta take some pics of that!
coming soon. maybe tonight. no responses though. guess no one was interested.

[gunrun45]

I asume that you 14.5 inch upper has the 1.5 inch flash hider perminantly welded on. Right? Otherwise you just constructed a short barrel rifle unless its on a true full auto M4. Just a thought.

PS I was glad to hear from you on the other CA AR-15 thread. Open minds are a terible thing to waste.

[willyjixx]

3rd sentence.

now i have a 14.5 in M4 upper with the stepped barrel and a 1.5 vortec FH.

sure do! overall length is 16 in bbl. not one to break rules here.
thank you for the compliment too!

[willyjixx]

here they ARe. (get it :) )

[gunrun45]

3rd sentence.

now i have a 14.5 in M4 upper with the stepped barrel and a 1.5 vortec FH.

sure do! overall length is 16 in bbl. not one to break rules here.
thank you for the compliment too!

Didn't mean to offend. Some people think that they can buy a 14.5 inch upper and then just screw on a 1.5 break to get buy. I've seen LE officers get pinched this way. They didn't intentionaly do it, they just didn't know. By the way in CA even LEO's have to take special classes to use departmental class 3 weapons legally. Crazy.

[willyjixx]

no offense taken!

i got it from a friend who is a cop. this one has been pinned in place. no removing it.

ive learned that ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking it. so we made sure it was set up right.

[Snaps]

I asume that you 14.5 inch upper has the 1.5 inch flash hider perminantly welded on. Right? Otherwise you just constructed a short barrel rifle unless its on a true full auto M4. Just a thought.

PS I was glad to hear from you on the other CA AR-15 thread. Open minds are a terible thing to waste.
Holy crap,, i just need to point out taht I hope you didn't weld a brake to your gun...

The proper way (i've done this quite a few times including once with the ATF lady looking ovre my sholder)

You screw it on, do not weld anything ot the gun... Drill a small hole and pin that JUSt into the barrel and spot weld over the top of that pin. DO NOT I say again DO NOT weld the brake to the barrel, you'll ruin it.



DISCLAIMER* It's quite possible i just misunderstood what you were trying to say here. If so, sorry

[willyjixx]

id say. considering my post above stated i pinned it in place.

:rolleyes:

your right about the welding. from what i understand the proper way if pinning is not desired is to silver solder it on. which could have been what gunrunr meant.

[Snaps]

well since you never said anything about welding you should assume i'm not talking to you, but to the guy who said and i quote "perminantly welded on."

and silver soldering is not considered permanent

[gunrun45]

It's cinsidered by the ATF agents I've spoken to be permanent.
As a side note. I originally typed that at teh end of a very long day and did not mean either traditionally welded or silver soldered. It was a vinacular term used to emply a permanent attachment.

[willyjixx]

well since you never said anything about welding you should assume i'm not talking to you, but to the guy who said and i quote "perminantly welded on."

and silver soldering is not considered permanent
true, but in the post where you quoted it from was still a reference back to my rifle.
it looked to me like you were referring back to me whether i welded it or pinned it.
you know what they say about people who assume. it makes an a$$ out of U and Me.
youve established you end.

no problems though. looks like gun runner explained what he meant.

[treedawg]

A pin will not satisfy the ATF.

The new FH must be perminantly attached.

All ATF agents I've spoke with consider silver soldering perminanent. I guess it would need tig welding to be 100% proper.

TD

[Snaps]

A pin will not satisfy the ATF.

The new FH must be perminantly attached.

All ATF agents I've spoke with consider silver soldering perminanent. I guess it would need tig welding to be 100% proper.

TD
sorry you're incorrect. Pinning is THE way to do it

I do this for a living and i've done it with hte inspectors standing beside me

A pin is permanent, you drill it into the barrel and either put a weld over the pin, smooth it out and and duracoat or something over the whole thing..

How you get hte idea pinning won't be legal i don't understand. How do you think all the guns were done during the ban? They were just pinned.

EDIT: You never weld on a barrel. Heating a barrel to that level is a huge risk of destroying the heat treating.

[treedawg]

sorry you're incorrect. Pinning is THE way to do it

I do this for a living and i've done it with hte inspectors standing beside me

A pin is permanent, you drill it into the barrel and either put a weld over the pin, smooth it out and and duracoat or something over the whole thing..

How you get hte idea pinning won't be legal i don't understand. How do you think all the guns were done during the ban? They were just pinned.

EDIT: You never weld on a barrel. Heating a barrel to that level is a huge risk of destroying the heat treating.

You are correct. Pin and weld is proper, but I never saw the mention of a weld. It's possible I missed it and if that's the case then forgive me for the error.

TD

[willyjixx]

jeez can yall move that to the general discussions and just enjoy the pick of the AR im proud of.

[treedawg]

jeez can yall move that to the general discussions and just enjoy the pick of the AR im proud of.

Please enjoy you new rifle and you have good reason to be proud.

I just offered my advice to keep you out of a possible sticky situation.

TD