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Tunug
03-27-2005, 06:33
Today we celebrate the resurrection of our Lord, Jesus Christ. He was crucified to DEATH by hatemongers; the likes of which have overrun this subforum. Ever wonder what actually happened in that stone tomb Jesus Christ was placed in? He was the one and only human that was GOD, who walked the earth as a man, and allowed himself to be tortured to death. Death could not hold Him!! What He did in that tomb was rise from DEATH!

The hatemongers who crucified him in those days, did not AT ALL want to believe He rose from death. For 2,000 years since, millions of intellectual hatemongers and non-believers have searched for proof that Christ never rose from death -- most of which sebsequently became believers. His resurrection has NEVER been debunked!! The tomb was empty! His body was never found!! Why? It is not on this earth! More than any other fact in history, this Truth is worth your thorough investigation!

He ascended to the heavens and said he will "be with us forever; even to the end of the earth!" He never said goodbye! We will see Him again; possibly very soon!

YourLocalNerd
03-27-2005, 11:44
You gotta have some big ol'hairy ones to posted that here Tunug!!

http://www.truerepublic.org/forums/html/emoticons/ernaehrung004.gif and good job m8!! http://www.truerepublic.org/forums/html/emoticons/headbang.gif

GREYBEAR
04-04-2005, 18:48
OK, Christianity is the one "TRUE" religion. Now which sect of Christianity is the "ONE TRUE" form of Christianity? Please enlighten this poor ignorant PAGAN. Your choices of course are Egyptian, and Ethiopian Coptic, Nestorian, Greek, Russian, or Eastern Orthodox (yes, boys and girls, there are differences between those three), the Catholic, and last but not least the many, and myriad forms of Protestantism.
Pick one, any one, and prove conclusively that your choice is the one "True" way, and that your Christian God is better than someone else's Christian God.

<_< <_< <_<


:beer: :rapid:

kravman4
04-05-2005, 00:02
You can't divide who's a true Christian and who's not by denominational lines.

The criterion for salvation is that you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, you accept his forgiveness, and claim the washing away of your sins through the power of Calvary.

HAPPY BELATED EASTER GUYS!!!

:D :beer: :D

cabdmd
04-06-2005, 14:40
Right, there are different denominations that differ on peripherial issues, BUT what unites them is agreement on the core issues. That is.

The Apostles' Creed
The basic creed of Reformed churches, as most familiarly known, is called the Apostles' Creed. It has received this title because of its great antiquity; it dates from very early times in the Church, a half century or so from the last writings of the New Testament.


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I believe in God, the Father Almighty,
the Creator of heaven and earth,
and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord:

Who was conceived of the Holy Spirit,
born of the Virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried.

He descended into hell. [See Calvin]

The third day He arose again from the dead.

He ascended into heaven
and sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty,
whence He shall come to judge the living and the dead.

I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy *catholic church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and life everlasting.

Amen.


*The word "catholic" refers not to the Roman Catholic Church, but to the universal church of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Sniper
04-06-2005, 16:08
Originally posted by GREYBEAR@Apr 4 2005, 07:48 PM
OK, Christianity is the one "TRUE" religion. Now which sect of Christianity is the "ONE TRUE" form of Christianity? Please enlighten this poor ignorant PAGAN. Your choices of course are Egyptian, and Ethiopian Coptic, Nestorian, Greek, Russian, or Eastern Orthodox (yes, boys and girls, there are differences between those three), the Catholic, and last but not least the many, and myriad forms of Protestantism.
Pick one, any one, and prove conclusively that your choice is the one "True" way, and that your Christian God is better than someone else's Christian God.

<_< <_< <_<


:beer: :rapid:
Thank you!!!!! My thoughts exactly.

:sniper:

kravman4
04-07-2005, 00:43
You can't divide who's a true Christian and who's not by denominational lines.

The criterion for salvation is that you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, you accept his forgiveness, and claim the washing away of your sins through the power of Calvary.

:D

Metaldoc
04-07-2005, 08:17
For those interested I would like to introduce you to Lee Strobel, a former self avowed atheist. He is a highly intelligent investigative journalist who was unwilling to take anything at face value, let alone "on faith".

A problem arose in his life..... his wife became a Christian. This caused some conflict but over the course a few months he couldn't help but notice a profound change in her. His course of action was to definitively "prove" the non existance of God.

His exhaustive investigative journey took him to reknown scholars and teachers on both sides of the issue. In the end, he came to faith. After careful research, it was just too indisputable to reject the evidence.

To share his findings and research he has authored the following books:

The Case for Faith
The Case for Christ
The Case for Creation
The Case for Easter

These books are not the rantings of a lunatic, but a thoughtful, objective, careful examination of historical evidence.

So for those of you demanding "proof", here you go. This is as close as you can come.

I am respectfully offering to send you a copy of any of the books for you to read. All I ask is that you either return it when done or pass it on to someone else. If it does nothing for you at all, please return it so that I might offer it to someone else. If you are moved by it, you may decide you want to share it with someone else. By all means feel free to do so. I will even pay book rate shipping both ways. PM me your address if you are interested.

So there is the offer....... what have you got to lose ? If you get nothing from the books you are only out a couple of hours of reading and you can rest assured that us Christians are gullible fools. Or are you worried that there just might be something to Christianity after all ?

Metaldoc

GREYBEAR
04-07-2005, 17:48
Metaldoc, I'm not disputing the existance of the Allmighty, by what ever name is given, but that one religion is the only true religion and all others are wrong or false, and in the narrow minds the believers of other faiths won't be saved and are therefore damned. Does that mean that those who say for instance are Buddists will suffer in a Christian hell. Or better yet what about the souls of all those who died before the Christ came to save every one. My thoughts go contrary to all, in that we just keep coming back until we get IT right. This is plain and simple, for me, and until anything better is proven, I'll stick to this. I don't say it's better, but I won't say it's worse than anything else.

:beer: :rapid:

cabdmd
04-07-2005, 18:15
Or better yet what about the souls of all those who died before the Christ came to save every one

In the Christian world view if you lived before the Christ but looked forward to the Messiah then you were good to go. One of the oldest bboks in the Bible is Job. This is what he said:
For I know that my Redeemer lives, And He shall stand at last on the earth;

darjeeling
04-07-2005, 20:05
Come on guys. Nobody can know that any of their opinions are the 'true' ones, much less their religion. Religion cannot even be based on causal observation. As much as I beleive christianity is the 'true' religion (or close anyways), I cannot grow as a christian or approach the 'truth' with that arrogant attutude. All we can do is honestly struggle with the issue of faith and religion. Anything less is a disservice to ones chosen religion and the persuit of truth. No matter how unatainable that truth is, we should try to seek it; even though we can never atain it much less understand it as mere mortal men we must try as best we can.

Corvid
04-09-2005, 11:43
Well, I'm new here, so I guess I'll jump in with both feet.

I am also a Pagan. Funny thing about Easter. It's named after a Pagan Goddess (Eostre). It also, interestingly, closely falls almost on the same date as Beltane, a Pagan holiday. Christmas? Used to be known as the Winter Solstice. All new religions are built upon the bedrock of the old. Which is why Christianity and Islam are built on the foundations of Judaism, except Christianity borrowed some holidays from Pagan religions.

If someone's faith tells them they are the "only" "true" religion, well, that's fine. But that applies to them personally, not to everyone on the whole planet.

GREYBEAR
04-09-2005, 13:47
Welcome Corvid.

:beer: :rapid:

Corvid
04-09-2005, 17:19
Thanks, Greybear! Bright Blessings to you!

elokoman
04-13-2005, 07:23
One thing that separates faith based on the writings and experiences of God's chosen people in the old testament from other religions is that in others such as Buddhism and Hindu, mankind reaches toward God or a higher state of being. In the Christian faith, God has reached out to humanity. We are saved for eternity by what He has done for us, not by what we do for Him.

I do believe that the "true church" is the invisible church in the hearts of all true believers in Jesus, my King, and that the Apostles Creed represents the truth. However, I also feel very fortunate to belong to the visible Missouri Synod Lutheran Church. I am convinced there are many true believers in the Roman Catholic church, however Martin Luther had to take a bold stand when he did, because Rome had become corrupt and was not being led by God's Word.

The Lord is good and His mercy endures forever.

BlenderWizard
04-13-2005, 18:50
Originally posted by Corvid@Apr 9 2005, 12:43 PM
Christmas? Used to be known as the Winter Solstice.
I've always known it as Saturnalia. Did some research, and turns out it's the same thing. One giant orgy if I remember right. Constantine (if I remember correctly) is the one we have to thank for getting all the Christian holidays placed on the same days as the Pagan ones. Seems he realized Christianity was the way things were going, and decided it would be easier to rope the Pagans under his rule into Christianity if they didn't have to change so much. So, he got with the Pope and got everything moved. Rabbits and eggs have nothing to do with Easter, but are leftover from the fertility celebration.

Havok
04-15-2005, 06:05
Winter Solstice is known as the shortest 'day' of the year where we get the least amount of light. That occurs on Dec. 22nd on the Northern Hemisphere. My Christmas would be Dec 25th. sorry, Christmas does not equal winter solistice.
Proof (http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/astronomy/WinterSolstice.html)

I do not worship fertility on Easter nor have an orgy on Christmas. Your logic is flawed, My Christmas and your orgy aren't the same.

Meaning my God and your god(s) aren't the same.

Meaning when you meet my God either you will be next to me singing praise or you'll be in a pit of fire and brimstone where there will be wailing and nashing of teeth. Wanna bet on were you'd be if the Lord came back right now?

I'm not saying that my religion is the one true religion... i'm saying my faith in God is the ONE TRUE FAITH.

hell, its even written on your money, on your courthouses, and even in some of your public schools. In God We Trust.

Why? because set the whole GOD word aside, and you get a ton of rules, that basically do tthe whole society good. Those rules say orgies are bad. Why are orgies bad? because you're more prone to getting and spreading desease.

edited for character.

-B.

BlenderWizard
04-15-2005, 07:18
Obviously, you cannot carry on a rational discussion. I did not comment on anything EXCEPT why and how our Christian Holidays fall on the days that they fall on, and why we have such things as the easter bunny and whatnot. I also do not appreciate the "you're gonna burn in hell" attitude (though, you pretty much outright said that, didn't you?). There are at least 2 reasons I know of that people are steering away from Christianity. One is all of the child molesting priests. The other is people like you. People do no like having to listen to someone's "holier than thou" attitude, while being told they are going to hell.

cabdmd
04-15-2005, 08:05
It is the LOVE of God that brings us to repentance.

Constantine did merge the pagan and Christian holidays.

Havok
04-15-2005, 20:46
I don't care what constantine did. What i believe is christmas is not what i believe is orgy.

EVERYONE is missing the point. God will some day NOT be so easygoing. I don't care if your holy or not. Honestly. I only care about me. Thats all i need to account for.

If your so easily swayed as priests having sexual relations (yea, it sucks ) and tough believers like me, then obviously you dont BELIEVE.

If you believe in something, you won't change, even if your proven wrong.

Yea, i'm saying that if i'm right, then you'd be wrong.. and you'd be in hell.

but if your right? where does the pagans think I go? is there an afterlife?

i dunno educate me on the whole world of "pagan"


I know you'll probably never accept my views, nor I: yours, but as eternal enemies of light and dark, we must get to know each other... LOL

buddy, I'm not trying to cause fights. I'm really not into having a rational discussion either, b/c the way I see it, is your either with me or against me... so, gimme some info against me.. just so i know what to research

BlenderWizard
04-15-2005, 20:58
Originally posted by Havok@Apr 15 2005, 09:46 PM
I don't care what constantine did. What i believe is christmas is not what i believe is orgy.

EVERYONE is missing the point. God will some day NOT be so easygoing. I don't care if your holy or not. Honestly. I only care about me. Thats all i need to account for.

If your so easily swayed as priests having sexual relations (yea, it sucks ) and tough believers like me, then obviously you dont BELIEVE.

If you believe in something, you won't change, even if your proven wrong.

Yea, i'm saying that if i'm right, then you'd be wrong.. and you'd be in hell.

but if your right? where does the pagans think I go? is there an afterlife?

i dunno educate me on the whole world of "pagan"


I know you'll probably never accept my views, nor I: yours, but as eternal enemies of light and dark, we must get to know each other... LOL

buddy, I'm not trying to cause fights. I'm really not into having a rational discussion either, b/c the way I see it, is your either with me or against me... so, gimme some info against me.. just so i know what to research
I dunno if this is even worth pointing out to you again, but all I said were the FACTS that Constantine got the Christian holidays moved to coincide with pre-existing Pagan ones

debo
04-15-2005, 21:13
17 Points of the True Church (Hebrews 13:8)

1. Matthew 16:18 - Christ organized a church
2. Ephesians 5:23-24 - Christ is at the head of the church
3. Ephesians 2:19-20 - Built upon the foundation of apostles and prophets.
4. Ephesians 4:11-14 - Apostles, prophest, evangelist, pastors, and teachers called of God for the perfecting of the saints.
5. Hebrews 5:4 - Priesthood authority
6. 1 Peter 5:2 - Non-paid ministry
7. Matthew 3:16 - Baptism by immersion
8. Acts 8:17 - Laying on of hands
9. Mark 3:14-15 - Perform miracles
10. John 20:17 - Father and Son are separate beings
11. Luke 24:36-39 - Resurrection with bodies of flesh and bone
12. Hebrews 5:4 - Called of God
13. Amos 3:7 - Revelation through prophets
14. Matthew 28:19-20 - World wide missionary work
15. Acts 3:21 - Must be a restoration of the fullness of the Gospel
16. 1 Corinthians 15:29 - Redeeming work for the dead, baptism for the dead.
17. Matthew 7:20 - By their fruits ye shall know them

Havok
04-16-2005, 21:43
I dunno if this is even worth pointing out to you again, but all I said were the FACTS that Constantine got the Christian holidays moved to coincide with pre-existing Pagan ones

eh. Like i said :

I don't care

but you still didnt answer me on the pagan thing. no answers?

-b.

BlenderWizard
04-16-2005, 22:43
Originally posted by Havok@Apr 16 2005, 10:43 PM
I dunno if this is even worth pointing out to you again, but all I said were the FACTS that Constantine got the Christian holidays moved to coincide with pre-existing Pagan ones

eh. Like i said :

I don't care

but you still didnt answer me on the pagan thing. no answers?

-b.
What makes you think I have the answers on Pagans and/or care to research them for your edification? You need more help than I could possibly provide. This discussion has moved past being rational into the realm of idiocy. We have people here acting like 10 year olds and ignoring anything anyone says, and just repeating themselves. I am done in this particular topic.

Havok
04-17-2005, 13:26
Ok, Blender Wizard:

I offer you a huge apology.

I assumed you and the pagan guy where the same poster. looking back I realized diffrent.

Yes, you only stated that constantine moved the dates.

I still hold that my Christmas and and Orgy aren't the same celebration, falling upon the same dates or not.

I really am sorry, I thought you were stating something diffrent.

and yes, now i feel like a 10 year old.

It just drives me up a wall sometimes with how certain people attempt to twist things into what they are not.

I'm going to put myself in time-out now...
:(

Bill
04-18-2005, 08:30
Havok-

What gives you the right to claim that BlenderWizard is a pedophile?

Wisen up, or take off.

Havok
04-18-2005, 12:48
I'll probably never come in this forum again?! :lol:
I am so lost it ain't funny. :blink:

Bill
04-18-2005, 13:21
Havok-

You are going back and editing your posts to cover your tracks, it seems.

Your last post originally said:

Bill- I thought i had everything straightened out... But then you confused me. When did I call blender a pedophile?I'll probably never come in this forum again?! :lol: I am so lost it ain't funny. :blink: Just 2 posts ago I thought we were arguing about the trustworthiness of the christain religion. :samurai: Then I said I was sorry. I misunderstood. Same thing happened to Jim in the (URL: http) discussion.Blender said:


I know because a full copy of it was sent to my email address.

In a prior thread (just before BlenderWizard said "Obviously, you cannot carry on a rational discussion"), you said that he's probably the type to have orgy's with kids. Today, 3 minutes after you modified your most recent post, you realized that you DID accuse him of being a pedophile, and you went back and edited that statement as well.

If you didn't change your facts so much, maybe you wouldn't be so lost?

YourLocalNerd
04-18-2005, 17:40
Bill that is just tasteless imo. And it shows true lack of character on your part as well.

I realize that b/c my opinion differs with yours that you don't care what it is and that you look forward to attempting to ridicule me for it, but I'll tell you anyway.

I have kept my "nose" out of this so called religious chit chat section for the most part b/c it is nothing but a playground for those who wish to bash anything and everything that has to do with Christianity. But you (I am assuming you did, maybe a moderator did) deleting argumentative posts to make your cause look "better" in other threads and then jumping in like you did above gave me cause to come out of "hiding".

I am not going to say that Havok did or did not call Blender a pedophile in his original post, but the fact is he changed his post before anyone responded; he also probably changed it before anyone saw it. Did it occur to you that maybe he changed it b/c if he actually did say it (and I am not convinced he did ;) just cuz you say it happened, doesn't make it true ya know) he realized his post was out of line and just plain wrong?? If that is the case you PUBLICLY bring up a wrong that he made RIGHT and then you shove it back in his face? That is worse and more adolescent than his original post.

If you want to ban me, that is fine; it's easy enough to get back in. I come here for the occasional nugget of good firearms info that applies to my collection of guns. I don't come here for Christian fellowship. I am just sick of hypocrites calling other hypocrites a hypocrite. Only the truly evil can follow their conscience to the letter. Aside from that we're all hypocrites. We all have our belief systems, and we all fail them at any given time, and if you tell me other wise, your either entirely evil or your lying.

Bill
04-18-2005, 18:57
Bill that is just tasteless imo.* And it shows true lack of character on your part as well.* *

WHAT?

What did I say that was tasteless? What did I do that lacks character?

I realize that b/c my opinion differs with yours that you don't care what it is and that you look forward to attempting to ridicule me for it, but I'll tell you anyway.*

When did you get so touchy? I wasn't responding to you.

But you (I am assuming you did, maybe a moderator did) deleting argumentative posts to make your cause look "better" in other threads and then jumping in like you did above gave me cause to come out of "hiding".*


Now you have me confused. I haven't deleted anything for purposes of making my arguments look stronger. I can't recall deleting any of your posts, but it could have happened, I'd have to look back and see. If you can give me some hint as to what post you think was removed, I can try and match it against logs. But a quick review of the logs shows that no moderator edited anyones posts in this thread. If you are referring to another thread, help me find which one and I'll tell you what happened to it.

I am not going to say that Havok did or did not call Blender a pedophile in his original post, but the fact is he changed his post before anyone responded; he also probably changed it before anyone saw it.* Did it occur to you that maybe he changed it b/c if he actually did say it (and I am not convinced he did ;)* just cuz you say it happened, doesn't make it true ya know) he realized his post was out of line and just plain wrong??* If that is the case you PUBLICLY bring up a wrong that he made RIGHT and then you shove it back in his face?* That is worse and more adolescent than his original post.

Bull. Havok changed 2 of his posts and tried to make it look like he didn't. Pure and simple. If he wanted to "right a wrong", he could have stated as much. Each of the posts he edited says "edited" below it, and with regards to the latest post, I have an email copy of the original (if you subscribe to the topic, you can choose to have the whole post sent in the email).

If you truly think that this administrator is out to get you and the other Christians, you are way too paranoid. Get a grip.

And why would I ban you? You're digging your own hole. Sometimes it's better to watch someone flog away and lose their own credibility than to ban them.

BlenderWizard
04-18-2005, 19:40
Originally posted by YourLocalNerd@Apr 18 2005, 06:40 PM
I am not going to say that Havok did or did not call Blender a pedophile in his original post, but the fact is he changed his post before anyone responded; he also probably changed it before anyone saw it. Did it occur to you that maybe he changed it b/c if he actually did say it (and I am not convinced he did ;) just cuz you say it happened, doesn't make it true ya know) he realized his post was out of line and just plain wrong?? If that is the case you PUBLICLY bring up a wrong that he made RIGHT and then you shove it back in his face? That is worse and more adolescent than his original post.

Yeah... no. Havok deleted or changed his posts after receiving replies on the thread from me and after receiving a personal message from me. After the numerous responses from me, he realized he was mistaken and then went back and altered his previous posts. Havok later apologized to me, and I did accept his apology. I also forwarded an unaltered copy to Bill, and therefore he saw it in its original form as well. I believe that at least CabMD saw the original post, as he responded in a way that was trying to "pass the peace."

BlenderWizard
04-18-2005, 19:42
Anyway, moot point, let's all just get along :beer:

Havok
04-18-2005, 20:20
I agree.

I changed the post (note at the end) to save character. I didn't want to leave my dumb-a** remark out there to blender if it wasn't truely even meant for him.

I actually forgot i made the remark b/c it was at the end of the post.

I then edited the second post, because i saw where i made my mistake.

I then apologized to blender.

as you said, bill:

I wisened up.

well, that or common sense knocked into me.
-B.

Bill
04-18-2005, 20:20
Yeah, what Rodney King said!

:beer:

Bill
04-18-2005, 20:21
Originally posted by Havok@Apr 18 2005, 06:20 PM
I agree.

I changed the post (note at the end) to save character. I didn't want to leave my dumb-a** remark out there to blender if it wasn't truely even meant for him.

I actually forgot i made the remark b/c it was at the end of the post.

I then edited the second post, because i saw where i made my mistake.

I then apologized to blender.

as you said, bill:

I wisened up.

well, that or common sense knocked into me.
-B.
This is why I don't ban first, ask questions later.

Even if some ~others~ here keep trying to make me ban them LOL

YourLocalNerd
04-20-2005, 16:04
What did I say that was tasteless? What did I do that lacks character?

As I said already. Taking something that probably you and you alone knew that he said and then after he rectified it, you make it public. And then you publicly ridicule and hold it against him for changing the wrong that he made.

When did you get so touchy? I wasn't responding to you.

I am not touchy. I only speak up here in this sub-forum when I feel that something that isn't being said needs to be said. And if you look at my history here in this sub-forum, you will see that is true.

Now you have me confused. I haven't deleted anything for purposes of making my arguments look stronger. I can't recall deleting any of your posts, but it could have happened, I'd have to look back and see. If you can give me some hint as to what post you think was removed, I can try and match it against logs. But a quick review of the logs shows that no moderator edited anyones posts in this thread. If you are referring to another thread, help me find which one and I'll tell you what happened to it.


This is the thread that I speak of. There were several posts from the more argumentative atheistic movement here that were removed. However I am sure the logs will publicly reflect what you want them too ;) .
http://www.perfectunion.com/forums/index.p...showtopic=14815 (http://www.perfectunion.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=14815)

Bull. Havok changed 2 of his posts and tried to make it look like he didn't. Pure and simple. If he wanted to "right a wrong", he could have stated as much. Each of the posts he edited says "edited" below it, and with regards to the latest post, I have an email copy of the original (if you subscribe to the topic, you can choose to have the whole post sent in the email).

You missed my entire point. I am not debating if Havok said that; he has admitted that he has. My point is that it is completely Jr. Highish to bring public a "secret" wrong and hold it over his head, when he has already fixed it.

And ya know probly 50% or more of the posts on this entire board have ---edited--- below them for punctuation, spelling, decided to change the question or whatever responce... But I don't see you making those public ;)

If you truly think that this administrator is out to get you and the other Christians, you are way too paranoid. Get a grip.

No I don't think your out to get me personally. I do think you enjoy trying to make people who wear Christ on their shirt sleeve look stupid. Well actually I know you do, you have said as much.

And why would I ban you? You're digging your own hole. Sometimes it's better to watch someone flog away and lose their own credibility than to ban them.


Well, hehehe there are many responces to that that I will leave alone lol. All I will say is that, bro I am not digging any hole; my conscience is clean :)

---I apologize in advance for any miss-spellings or incorrect grammar, but I now realize it is a dangerous thing to have an ---edit--- at the end of your post...

Bill
04-20-2005, 17:32
As I said already. Taking something that probably you and you alone knew that he said and then after he rectified it, you make it public. And then you publicly ridicule and hold it against him for changing the wrong that he made.

Baloney. More than one person knew about it, and people SHOULD know about it when the original posts are edited. He's apologized for it, you're defending nothing right now.

This is the thread that I speak of. There were several posts from the more argumentative atheistic movement here that were removed. However I am sure the logs will publicly reflect what you want them too ;) .

Dude, you are truly paranoid. There are threads that we move to a hidden area if they are really bad. For a while my moderators were deleting them. But there are no records of this happening on this thread. I have no reason to lie to you. I'm not trying to make myself look better, I'm trying to get us stop attacking each other. Only YOU are seeing this most recent event as an attack by me.

http://www.perfectunion.com/forums/index.p...showtopic=14815 (http://www.perfectunion.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=14815)

Huh? I'm not even IN that conversation. What does that have to do with me removing posts? I see that a moderator edited Swill's post. Is that what you are talking about?

You missed my entire point. I am not debating if Havok said that; he has admitted that he has. My point is that it is completely Jr. Highish to bring public a "secret" wrong and hold it over his head, when he has already fixed it.

The fact is that he DENIED having done it. If he had said "Sorry, I shouldn't have said it that way, I've edited it", then no foul. If he removes the evidence, and claims he didn't do it, damn right I am going to call it out. I turned back on the Edit feature because the vast majority of edits are harmless, but I warned people that it can also be used to cover your tracks and cause more ruckus. Havok's done, we're cool, the 3 of us (Blender, Havok, and I)

Jr High-ish is playing the God-card for what had NOTHING to do with religion. Hell, you're a regular Johnnie Cochrane.

And ya know probly 50% or more of the posts on this entire board have ---edited--- below them for punctuation, spelling, decided to change the question or whatever responce... But I don't see you making those public ;)

Are you stubborn, or dense? I prefer to think you are the former. I don't make those public because they weren't done with deciet as a motive.

No I don't think your out to get me personally. I do think you enjoy trying to make people who wear Christ on their shirt sleeve look stupid. Well actually I know you do, you have said as much.

When? Link please. I said I like mudslinging, that's about as close as you get.


---I apologize in advance for any miss-spellings or incorrect grammar, but I now realize it is a dangerous thing to have an ---edit--- at the end of your post...

Wow, you truly don't get it. :rolleyes:

YourLocalNerd
04-20-2005, 20:31
Wow, you truly don't get it. rolleyes.gif

No Bill it is actually you who don't get it. I have made my point quite clearly, and obviously you don't agree and that is fine, however I do appreciate you taking the time to further drive my point home ;)

Oh and as far as the link, yes I do believe that is the one that I am remembering. Between that and you actions (which speak louder then words :) ) Thank you for admitting to it :)

Baloney. More than one person knew about it, and people SHOULD know about it when the original posts are edited. He's apologized for it, you're defending nothing right now.

That after a fashion I agree with. He apologized after my original post, and that post is what I was defending. And if it is sooo very important to you that people should have full knowledge of posts being edited, why re-instate the edit feature? hmmm...Conundrum?



Huh? I'm not even IN that conversation. What does that have to do with me removing posts? I see that a moderator edited Swill's post. Is that what you are talking about?

Bill as I said, you OR a moderator messed with the post number. And I even apologized if it wasn't you...

Jr High-ish is playing the God-card for what had NOTHING to do with religion. Hell, you're a regular Johnnie Cochrane.

ummm...where have I played the God card? My issues in these past posts have been in reguards to you ;) Not God.

Are you stubborn, or dense? I prefer to think you are the former. I don't make those public because they weren't done with deciet as a motive.

Honestly, yes I am stubborn as an unbroke mule. And I am probly dense too. But ya know, the same could be said or questioned about you ;)

We obviously aren't getting anywhere, and with you I didn't figure I would. The main reason for my posting was not for you, but for your audience ;) So if you wish to continue that is fine but we can also call it quits for the time being if ya like. Up to you :)

:beer:

YourLocalNerd
04-20-2005, 20:37
That after a fashion I agree with. He apologized after my original post, and that post is what I was defending.

Oh and to clarify, it was my original post that I was defending not his...