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Here's a pic of my weatherby vangaurd that I took over the weekend. My mini has been waiting to go to the range to sight in a new scope so the weatherby has been putting all the time in the field yote hunting this winter (which hasn't been much between deer hunting and then being sick....).
It's a .270 (currently shooting 3300fps 100 psp's), 3-9x40 bushnell elite 3200 scope, weaver mounts and rings, shooters ridge 13"-23" pivoting bipod (set at 23" for the picture - sitting shooting position), and a quick adjust cammo sling. Stuck to the side of the stock just ahead of the reciever is a velcro'd on mouse squeeker, used for stopping or coaxing in closer wiley coyote. (soft velcro half goes on rifle, rough velcro half goes in the back of the squeeker.) The trigger is set at 3 or 3.5lbs (can't remember which) and is very smooth and has very little distance to travel. I've shot some of my best group with this rifle, it's definetly a keeper!
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later,
scruffy
scruffy - nice looking weapon. It sure is nice when you get one that is something you like - looks good and most important - shoots well. ;)
Tankcommander
01-24-2005, 17:51
Very nice yotes beware.
TC :cannon:
kravman4
01-24-2005, 21:09
Nice weapon Scruffy! You oughta get a stock inlaid with coyote teeth for that bad boy... ;) :lol:
Yotes beware indeed. The yote below didn't. I changed from a grey quakerboy squeeker velcro'd on the stock to a black Knight and hale squeeker, but other than that no changes to the first pick of the rifle.
It's 2-0 on the yotes so far in 2005. The 100 grain, 3300fps muzzle, .270 remington express load entered just inside his right shoulder and crossed his body and lodged in his right hip. No exit, very small (.277" I assume...) entry hole. The yote was almost straight on at only 50 yards. His insides were mush, one shot bang flop. It sat him down and he didn't even flench after his head hit the dirt. Gotta love a quick clean kill and no pelt damage!
(edited to add the first yote of 2005 with the weatherby, followed by the second. hopefully a few more to follow yet the end of this winter!)
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kravman4
02-07-2005, 08:33
Nice shootin'! :ar15:
With a roll of camo cloth tape (mossy oak breakup pattern) the weatherby goes camo.
Here's the pic! - updated pic, removed tape from scope, trimmed tape around stock with razor, etc. I can't leave nothing alone... ;)
later,
scruffy
ksrugerfan
02-11-2005, 23:13
Nice looking dog shooter!
Jay
:usa:
here's an updated pic, pulled off the swivel sitting bipod to field test some "scruffy stix" shooting sticks I whipped up while I was sick on Sunday. Two fiberglass marker rods with pointed ends cut to 30", camo duct taped except for .5" at top and bottom, castration band at 26" to attach the two together, and a 6" piece of vacume hose on the top to rest the rifle on. The rubber hose doesn't slip and give fluid movement for panning left/right.
Oh, in place of the shooters ridge 13"-23" pivot bipot sits a harris 1a2-br bipod I use for prone hunting off terrices and on top of ridges (and truck hood, hay bale, fense post, fallen tree, etc...). It doesn't pivot but as of yet that hasn't been a big problem since the legs are so close together, even when extended to the long 9" setting. 6" setting isn't used much, but it sure is compact and light!!!
another pic, back, under, and close up of the "scruffy stix" operation.
Nice Scruffy, I've always used stix instead of a bipod. The tubing rest across the top is the best improvement I ever witnessed. Will have to remember that.
Well, this morning before leaving for work I walked out the walkout basement door to give my lab some more food. I closed the basement door, turned around and my lab was straight south of me 50 yards away and facing me. 50 yards beyond that was a coyote facing me on the edge of the mowed grass near the creek. My lab had no idea the yote was behind him. I did a relaxed 180 and went back in the house, sat the dog food can on the bottom basement step, and flew up the stairs, ran threw the living room, glancing out the window to see the yote had circled, still 100 yards out, and was SW of the house now, she started straight south of the house. I hurredly grabbed the weatherby from the safe, dropped in 3 remington express 100 grain .270 psp's, threw off the scope covers, turned the scope up to 9x, and went to the deck door. As I slowly unlocked the deadbolt I looked out the window but couldn't see the yote. I opened the door, took two steps, and set the rifle up facing west. The coyote was WSW out at 110 yards and was now walking north towards my north fense. I put the + on her broad side and started to lip squeek. Finally curiosity got the best of her and she stopped. She didn't take another step. The 100 grain .270 pill smacked her behind the shoulder and hit like lightning. She went straight down.
I put some shoes on and walked out to her to check her out. I couldn't find the entrance wound and the exit wound size is between a dime to a nickle I estimate. I can't tell for sure because the hole is full of hair, so the hole can't be too big. She was probably born last year, she's pretty small, maybe 20lbs, and her teeth are very bright white.
Anyway, enough babbling. I get one yard yote a year it seems like. Most have been with the weatherby, a couple with the shotgun over the years. Gotta love starting the day dragging a yote back to the house in your work clothes.
Edit: oh, looking at the pic I realized I didn't test the squeeker velco'd to the side of the stock. Old habbits die hard I guess, I just lip squeeked. I was running on auto pilot since I've done this more than a few times. 50% of the time I get the yard yotes, 50% of the time they get away. This one didn't get away.
later,
scruffy
NICE JOB, i would be worried that it would go after the dog heh.
My labs killed a lot of coyotes so I'm not to worried about him. It's one of his favorite things to do... he like to show up his dad... ;) His cable is such that he can break it at any time he wants incase he needs to. He's broke a few cables to kill yotes he's seen in the yard. I gotta get them before he does... :ar15:
later,
scruffy
wow, i really never thought a black lab could kill a yote so easily, good stuff i like reading your stories :D one of the things i have always been concerened or confused about is if i should take my dog coyote hunting with me, i was afraid that it would think differently of me or something lol. but that answered one of my many questions.
adaman04
03-18-2005, 21:58
Man Scruffy, you are the coyote master! It sure doesn't seem like there are near as many coyotes here in MO. Maybe I just never see 'em. Nice shot by the way.
Realy, nice shot Scruff. taking shots out your back door.................sigh.........that must freakin rock! I live in an apartment complex in the 'burbs. nuff said lol
Someday........................................
Regards, Z
Thanks, I had a series of good shots and then had a horrible miss last Sunday... 250 yards, towards the setting sun, prone on the bipod. With the sun the shot was almost impossible, I had to turn the scope to 4x to see enough in the scope to get on the coyote and had to keep barking to get the coyote to stop so I could get a standing shot. Finally I got a rushed 4x magnification 250 yard glare filled scope shot off at the coyote... and missed.... :rolleyes:
Anyway, I wanted a sunshade for my 40mm scope and did some searches, called bushnell, nothing on the sunshade but was told to go to www.eabco.com and order an ARD, Anti Reflection Device. If fits in a butler creek sunshade and it's honey comb design eliminates glare, reflection, protects the front lens, and is only supposed to reduce light transmition into the scope by 15% (at night it seems to drop my scope down to being the same brightness as the naked eye, but during the day is slightly "tinted". It's not supposed to reduce the resolution of the sight picture in the scope noticibly but it does a little. I've read a dozen reviews I found only 1 other person with this complaint, so maybe it's just me (or a few of us...), but it's certainly not enough of resolution loss to not use it. The picture is still really sharp, just not as sharp. anyways, here are a few pics.
Oh, the "ARD" is made by Tenebraex corporation, they make them for both the millitary and civilain sales. You can get them from midway, swfa, etc under the name sunguard. I got my from eabco.com for a few dollars cheaper, $12.95 with $3.95 shipping.
Heres a look through the front of the scope through the ARD
Oh, Tenebraex has a website, www.camouflage.com, if you'd like to get more information on the ARD, which size to order for you BC scope cover, etc.
Note: the ARD is not visible when looking through the eye peice of the scope.
last but not least, coyote calling setup I've built around the weatherby over this past winter.
-mouse squeeker velcro'd to stock
-"scruffy stix" shooting sticks
-homemade ecaller (radioshak $39.99 internally amped 94db speaker and 6' $4.97
wally world speaker cord).
-MP3 loaded with 4 mp3 tracks from Johny Stewart coyote calling CD vol 2
(distressed cottontail, puppies, distressed housecat, distressed fawn). JS CD's
have 15 minute cd tracks and 5 minute mp3 tracks
-Long lanyard on the MP3 so it hangs around my neck and rests in my lap while
I'm sitting, very compact and light setup.
-turkey hunting air seat
-Remington Express 100 gr PSP's
-Butler Creek scope covers with ARD
Not pictured are handcalls, I always take a couple with me along with extra batteries (speaker takes 6 AA's, mp3 takes 1 AAA, I use rechargible batteries)
later,
scruffy
Well, I've field tested the ARD at dawn, dusk, night, and a mid sunny morning and late sunny afternoon and I have to say I really like the ARD. Unless you're pointed at the sun there's no glare in the scope.
And the resolution difference I noticed when I first installed it and compared it on/off I don't notice so much anymore. Kind of like I go to the eye doctor and he tries two different powers of lenses and asks if the first is clear, I say yes, he tries a slightly higher or lower power and asks if it's clear, I say yes, he asks which is better, I say I don't know they're nearly the same, he does a side by side comparison flipping between the two lenses, and I tell him which is clearer. When flipping the ARD on and off I could tell a resolution difference. But just grabbing the rifle, flipping up the bc covers, and looking through the scope I notice the scope isn't as bright as before since it's not sucking light in it like it used to, like it's very lightly tinted, actually easy on the eye to look through, and I don't notice a resolution loss. If I can get one to turn out I'll take a pic looking through the eye peice of the scope with the ARD installed and possibly with it uninstalled.
But overall I'd give it 5 out of 5 stars, and definitly worth the $16.90 I spent delivered to my mail box. On a sunny day, especially when pointing in the direction of the sun and glare fills the scope, it's a must have item in my book. :sniper:
later,
scruffy
boogeyman
04-13-2005, 10:29
I'm trying to get a pair for my stiener 8X30 binos.
I found out I don't have a good way to carry extra .270 rounds that I can top of the magazine easily. My belt carrier, when opened, drops all 10 rounds on the ground... Found this out trying to top off the magazine last Thursday evening. Plus if I need the rifle loaded quickly, either for a yard yote or for a yote in a field on a farm I'm hunting, I don't have any rounds on the rifle ready to load.
So I took an old ratty 9 round black stretchy shell holder I had on the ruger that got all tathered because of thorns, fenses, etc and mounted it on the weatherby's stock. With the raised cheek rest it didn't fit very good. Plus what side to put it on, I shoot both left and right handed, mostly left, and with the raised cheek on the left side of the stock I couldn't put shells on that side to shoot the rifle left handed. Since I don't want or really need 9 rounds on the stock, I only wanted 3, I cut the shell holder down to only hold 3. Then the cut end was sewn with stretch string so it wouldn't unravel (trip to moms!) and now it holds 3 rounds on the stock and mounts behind the raised cheek portion of the stock, at the very back, just ahead of the butt pad behind the sling swivel.
Now there are 3 rounds with the rifle at all times for quick loading or topping off the magazine and it's back out of the way of my cheek so I can still shoot the rifle both left and right handed. And I mounted the 3 rounds on the right side of the stock so when I shoot it left handed, my primary side, the shiny brass casings are between the rifle and my pec back by my armpit, mostly hidden from the coyotes view.
so here's a pic of the whole rifle, with my newly made 36" scruffy stix (needed a taller set, the area I'm hunting is very steep) and my js pc1 call I put camo cloth tape on.
And a closeup of the shell holder. The JS PC1 call also found it's way into the pic... I really like that call.
later,
scruffy
adaman04
05-22-2005, 12:46
Nice!
Man Scruffy, you are the coyote master
Well - I am going to sneak up behind old Scruffy - jump on his head - and steal his hat. Then run like HE**.
Will see if that off sets his aim a little....... :blink:
THE OLD COYOTE !!!
Originally posted by Coyote@May 23 2005, 09:57 AM
Man Scruffy, you are the coyote master
Well - I am going to sneak up behind old Scruffy - jump on his head - and steal his hat. Then run like HE**.
Will see if that off sets his aim a little....... :blink:
THE OLD COYOTE !!!
That's already been done... LOL. I've had the back of my neck sniffed a couple times, little sneaky varmints... I really hate that!!! I've never killed one of those sneakers either, I'm a pretty shaky shot after that... Another reason to hunt in pairs instead of by yourself, someone to cover your 6!
later,
scruffy
nice huntin' set up what is the JS call that you have in the pic?
-thanks, tri :usa:
It's a Johnny Stewart PC1 predator call. It's what I consider a "hybrid". You blow it like closed reed call to make rabbit distress sounds. But by pushing down on the little rubber button on the mouth peice with your teen that presses against the reed you can vary the pitch. So you can add alot of pitch change to the distressed rabbit or make coyote or canine pup whines. It's advertised to be able to produce alot of other sounds, but I don't know how to make them. The PC1 in the pic is my second PC1 call. I lost my first PC1 earlier this year after using it to call back in a coyote that an ecaller called in but saw some movement (me) and walked off without offering a shot. The coyote came back in to some whimpers on the PC1 and I shot the coyote in the chest at 50 yards. Then between that point and the truck I lost the call... I bought another PC1 later that evening and the following weekend went out and on it's first stand it called in a coyote. Unfortunately the coyote came from a direction I wasn't anticipating and he busted me, but that happens... The call did it's job.
The PC1 has never locked, always blows a good pitch, never not worked and with the stainless steel reed assembly wears like, well, steel. It's only drawback is the closed reed design make it susseptible to freezing up in the rigid very cold when your spit freezes in the reed assembly and there is no quick way to clear it. I still use the call in the blistering cold but I just don't blow it as often. Maybe blow it a few times, sit for a dozen seconds, then blow it a few more times, then wait for 5 to 10 minutes before repeating. Also, if you're afraid the PC1 will freeze up because you're doing alot of calling you can turn it around and inhale pulling air through the reed assembly. It's not as loud, raspy, or any of that, but it works. I know of a guy that will turn it around and inhale through the call for a coaxer on coyotes that hang up just out of range. The muffled cries of a distressed rabbit are more than a lot of coyotes can bear and come running in.
And 2 of the 3 coyote pics in this thread that fell to the weatherby were called in with my PC1. It's by far my favorite call. I think it works so well because it's more versital sound and pitch wise than a closed reed call but not so versital that you can make bad call sounds like you can on an open reed call.
Your mileage will of course vary, it fits me perfect and makes the sounds I want to make. When you find your perfect call for you it's hard not to rave about it.
later,
scruffy
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