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alacran06

05-04-2004, 18:18

punchie

05-06-2004, 02:49

My first inclination would be that you are breaking your wrist on recoil (limp wristing). I don't know if you are an experienced semi shooter or not but this is a common problem with people who are not used to shooting a semi. Next question would be, What ammo? Factory (brand) or reload? Bottom line would be give it another chance and try different brands of ammo and remember to keep the wrist locked.

alacran06

05-06-2004, 14:35

hi. thnx for your reply. I would like to know is there a big differnce between brands of ammo and reloaded ammo? How can ammo be the cause of the gun misfeeding or jamming, assuming the ammo is the problem? once again thank you, I will follow your advice and go try it again with different kinds of ammo.

punchie

05-06-2004, 15:38

Some factory ammo (American Ammo in Fla for one) has very little to no quality control with very inconsistant powder charges down to and including squib loads (no powder, just primer). Reloads, unless factory loaded or loaded by yourself) may suffer the same thing. If this is a new gun it would not be unusual for it to have problems for the first couple of hundred rounds while the moving parts work themselves in.

Again, what you described are tthe classic signs of not having your wrist locked on recoil. The pistol pretty much works off of inertia and breaking the wrist throws the timing off just enough to cause misfeeds and ejection problems. Glocks are infamous for it.

alacran06

05-06-2004, 16:55

thnx for the info

Tankcommander

05-15-2004, 01:13

Donny

05-30-2004, 08:51

alacran06

05-30-2004, 13:37

well some people like me who go and buy guns like taurus, do it beacuse the price is reasonable, maybe we get what we paid for and lifetime warranty is always catchy. To me the brand does not matter, if a gun is going to malfunction it does not matter if it is a taurus or a beretta, sig, glock, etc.

Donny

05-31-2004, 08:29

yes alacran but i think that taurus quality is questionable and price doesnt matter
i think that every shooter (especially) in the U.S. can afford himself great products like GLOCK without any problems, which are not so expensive.
and taurus will give you much more problems then glock, just read posts of the taurus gun owners or maybe EX owners! and listen to their confessions about gun quality 1500 rounds and frame broke????? ok even glock can jamm or broke but taurus malufunctions are very often, so i think that my life is valuable enough that i can at least give 40% more bucks to afford quality product.
if you think that your life doesnt worth 500 $ i am sorry to hear it, even then you can buy yourself gun for the same price as taurus but much better like ČZ (czech zbrojevka) which is one of the best handguns in the world, i am not trying to be rude but please buy yourself reliable weapon because one day your life may depend on it.

stay safe

punchie

05-31-2004, 09:20

Donny
Let me take exception to your comments. First I have NEVER been enamored with Taurus quality control but it is my sincere belief that it is of an acceptable degree. If you want top quality I feel sure that you are carrying a SIG 210, right?
Gee, never heard of a KB with a 210 (dig at Glock). The Taurus "Clone guns" ie. the 96/92 Berreta clones, are quite acceptable in both quality and and reliability. The best, NO, but acceptable and Taurus QC is evolving nicely.

Please try to not let your ability to purchase 'better' grade guns to cloud your judgement on other brands. If you have personal hands on knowlege is one thing, If you don't it is just heresay!!As an example, look at all the bad press on kabooms with your beloved Glock.

alacran06

05-31-2004, 15:48

Donny.....I don't know where you get the idea that my life depends on the Taurus handgun that I own. First, it is not the only gun that I own..I bought it primiarly as a shooter for the target range since 9mm is the lowest priced ammunition here were I live. That being said, it is obvious that it is not for self-defense at all, I got others that can very much take care of that. This being the first Taurus that I buy and experinced with this problem when I went to try it out, i had some questions about it, the ammo i was using was relaoded and i hear that this type of ammo may cause certain problems similiar to the ones i experienced. I was just trying to get some help on isolating the problem, gun or ammo.

Donny

06-01-2004, 09:37

No i dont own a p210 handgun , i am sure that it is very good, but not my idea of conceal weapon, and magazine in P210 is too limited,
maybe i was little too critical on taurus, but for taurus clones you can get one of the most underestimated handguns in the world and also exellent handgun CZ 85 or 75, that are fight proven even in military conditions.
yes i heard of glocks jamming but glock is by far most used firearm in the world and also very affordable, even american test proved so (if i am not wrong)
about jamming i think that glock jamming reports are mostly because of glock popularity at least 50% shooters have one glock or more.
i am not fan of glock but i am real, and also i put glock just as example with other great stuff like sig walther heckler and so on.

Nighthawk

06-03-2004, 14:47

I have to give Taurus the benefit of doubt,there is a possibility your limp wristing when you fire.I have a PT-92AFS with the 17RD LEO Mags and Ive never had any problems with it.I also have a Pt 100 .40S&W and it functions great as well.I would return the gun back to the factory to let them examine it,the feed ramp may have a burr on it.All in all Taurus has improved their reputation to be one of the top Gun Manufactures.Let us know how it goes?

Best! :usa:

Big Gay Al

06-19-2004, 20:36

I have a PT92AFS that I bought in 1992. There was a recall of them shortly after I bought mine which I vaguely recall mentioned something about possible frame problems. The recalled guns were sent back to the factory and either replaced or fixed. I don't really know which.

But my PT92 has NEVER failed me in 12 years of use. It has the pre-ban 15 round magazines that came with it, and when I worked as a security officer/private investigator in Chicago, it saved my life.

I've lost count of how many rounds I've put through it, but I am certain it's in the thousands, as I try to go target shooting with it at least once a month, and I usually put at least 50 rounds through it when I do. That's roughly 7200 rounds. And that is a conservative estimate.

In any event, I'd rather have my PT92 than a Glock or Beretta.

But that is MY opinion. ;)

Pug Puppy

08-13-2004, 08:26

Why not get a Ruger or Witness or CZ. All excellent-grade guns, based on the
reports i"ve been getting since 1989.

Big Gay Al

08-13-2004, 09:41

Originally posted by Pug Puppy@Aug 13 2004, 06:26 AM
Why not get a Ruger or Witness or CZ. All excellent-grade guns, based on the
reports i"ve been getting since 1989.
To use a really worn out expression, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

My PT-92 is not broke, I don't need to fix it, or replace it.

However, having said that, I have been known from time to time to carry a .45 gov't model instead, or in addition to, the PT-92. ;)

Besides, the PT-92/99 is an EXCELLENT firearm also!!!
In my humble opinion, that is. :D

gossman

01-30-2005, 01:12

My Taurus jams when it is dirty. Factory ammo I can shoot boxes, reloads with Unique, 20-30 rounds. Clean the chamber, shoots another mag then needs a cleaning again. I now use factory ammo and clean it after every box. No problems. And yes I have other firearms other than the Taurus so don't preach at me.

Big Gay Al

01-30-2005, 07:08

Originally posted by gossman@Jan 30 2005, 12:12 AM
My Taurus jams when it is dirty. Factory ammo I can shoot boxes, reloads with Unique, 20-30 rounds. Clean the chamber, shoots another mag then needs a cleaning again. I now use factory ammo and clean it after every box. No problems. And yes I have other firearms other than the Taurus so don't preach at me.
Really? I've put over 200 rounds through my PT-92 at one shooting session, and never had a problem.

gossman

01-30-2005, 23:25

Only with the handloads of Unique powder. Factory loads it does fine but the tolerances on my Taurus are tight, any powder, grit, or junk in the chamber it will not feed properly

Big Gay Al

01-30-2005, 23:43

Originally posted by gossman@Jan 30 2005, 10:25 PM
Only with the handloads of Unique powder. Factory loads it does fine but the tolerances on my Taurus are tight, any powder, grit, or junk in the chamber it will not feed properly
Ohh, I see. I only use factory ammo. I haven't got the room to setup for reloading. :(

Have you tried reloading with a different powder, so see if you could get it to function with handloads???

texagun

02-03-2005, 09:01

I have 2 PT-92's in 9mm. that I bought years ago . They have both been excellent guns and I can't recall a single malfunction with either of them. I have put all kinds of ammo thru them and they have been 100% reliable. I would take them over the identical Beretta anyday because of the thumb safety and identical ergomomics to the 1911. On the other hand, I had a .38 special revolver made by Taurus and it sucked. The trigger was very hard and gritty. I got rid of it fast.
I think if you will do a search on the various forums, you will find that the PT-92/PT-99's have an excellent reputation.

BigUglyOne

03-03-2005, 18:52

My PT-100 .40 cal has never jammed and I have put 500 or 600 rounds thought between cleanings (sometimes 500 rounds at a sitting).

I carried it as a duty gun for about 10 years and there is no doubt in my mind that if I pull the trigger a round will go down range, where intended.

alacran06 Try cleaning the chamber good and then fight the recoil when you fire.

Big Gay Al

03-03-2005, 21:02

I recently added a Taurus PT-911 to my collection. It is smaller, lighter, and carries 15+1 rounds. It also shoots very accurately in my opinion.

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The above was done at 25 feet, one-handed.

texagun

03-25-2005, 06:54

I have two PT-92's that I have had for over a decade and have never experienced a malfunction with either of them. I prefer them to Berettas. Since you bought the gun used, I would suggest a new recoil spring from Taurus or www.gunsprings.com, then try some different ammo. If your problem persists after that, send it to Taurus and they will repair it for you. I've never heard of anyone having a problem getting their guns fixed under their lifetime warrantly.

Metalhead

03-03-2006, 18:59

Weak recoil spring,mag spring,limp wristing, out of spec. ammo. or a combo of the mentioned will do it. I owned a pt 92-never had problems and shot a few thousand rounds. I only got rid of it because of it's size figured I could carry a 1911 just as easy with bigger bullets:) Most maker's have a repair shop,I know kimber-S&W-Ruger-Glock-Sig etc. do ( I had to send my higher priced guns in for one reason or another) They're machines-they break.....

Zen900

03-03-2006, 22:32

i recently purchased a taurus pt92 9mm pistol, this past weekend i took it to the range to test it out. to my deseption the gun jammed a couple of times. i had problems with the gun misfeeding the bullet into the barrel and in 3 or 4 occasions the shell wasen't ejeceted all the way out. would it be best to return the gun since it has lifetime warranty or should i give it another chance? Has anyone experienced this problem with their pt92? any recommendations?

Yep, exact same thing happened to me with my pt92 when I got it. I was concerne because of two jams out of the first 25-30 rounds. Youre not holding the gun correctly. Dont white knuckle it but you need to tighten your grip and this problem will go away. I have fired a thousand rounds now and it is amazingly reliable.

Zen900

03-03-2006, 22:42

I had a PT92 which I bougfht in 94. It never jammed on me that I can remember but after about 1500 rounds the frame broke. A piece actually broke off. Taurus honored the warrentee and replaced it. The new one worked fine but I was always a little leary of it and I sold it last year after I retired from the National Guard.

I had bought it due to its similarity to our Berettas to keep up my pistol scores. I have not bought another Taurus product since.

TC :cannon:

Tank, I am curious, did you use +p ammo or Winchester 147 gr ammo? The pt92 does have specific ammo specs that forbids the use of hot ammo. Over time hot ammo causes fine fissures and then cracks etc. But then again Im at the 1000 round point on my pt92 so Ill keep you posted if it passes 1500 rounds which is the point where your pt failed..

Zen900

03-03-2006, 22:53

I just dont understand why people buy bad products like taurus, they maybe have a good revolvers but their semi autos suck, buy glocks sigs, hecklers walthers and so on i just dont understand why should someone risk with taurus when there are a lot of much better handguns for normal prices

I have a Beretta that I hate. I like my Pt92. When it's time to fire 300 rounds on the range the PT92 is the gun I take. The Beretta stays home. I have a pal who uses the Taurus 454 to hunt deer with and a Taurus 44 revolver to plnk with. These guns are well made and they earned my respect. I can't speak for all Taurus guns but these 3 are nice guns.

DaveyDug

03-04-2006, 18:44

I have 3 Taurus firearms: A PT99 9mm, PT145 .45acp and a 669 .357 Mag. I love all three of these guns and would readily rely on them if my life depended on it. (Actually, the PT145 is my daily carry gun). HOWEVER, I used to own a PT111 9mm that would fail to feed about 3 times out of 100 rounds. I wanted to use it as my carry gun, but couldn't depend on it so I got rid of it. Overall, I am very fond of Taurus's guns.

FatDaddy

03-05-2006, 01:12

I've had a pt-92 since 90' and have put thousands of rounds through it with no problems. My only problem is I've had it so long I'm just tired of looking at it.

gunrun45

03-05-2006, 17:03

I've had a pt-92 since 90' and have put thousands of rounds through it with no problems. My only problem is I've had it so long I'm just tired of looking at it.

Same here.
I got fancy and replaced the triger spring with a Wilson one when I did the same to my Berretta 96 (40 S&W) just so they would be the same.

You have to break in the mags well before the mags become super reliable. Most feeding problems I have encountered were from new that were not broken in yet or VERY used mags that were bent.

Zen900

03-05-2006, 20:08

Same here.
I got fancy and replaced the triger spring with a Wilson one when I did the same to my Berretta 96 (40 S&W) just so they would be the same.

You have to break in the mags well before the mags become super reliable. Most feeding problems I have encountered were from new that were not broken in yet or VERY used mags that were bent.

I have a 30 round aftermarket mag I use for plinking. If you look close it has a slightly different set of lips on it but it works flawlessly but you can feel the difference from the stock mag when you insert the 30 rounder. I only insert the 30 rnd mag with the slide back. With the stock 17 round mag it will insert equally well with the slide open or closed.

CommoMan

03-12-2006, 21:50

I have owned both a Taurus PT-92 (stolen!) and a PT-99. Both exhibited AK-like reliability.

Just be sure the gun is clean and keep that wrist steady!

hartebreak

03-24-2006, 16:47

I have had my stainless PT-92 since 02, I have put about 1200 rounds through it and to this day it has never misfired, jammed or failed to operate ever!! not once. Of course I clean it after I get home from shooting it everytime. Seems to be a decent quality gun for $425.00. My only gripe is the slide release is a bit of a reach for my thumb but thats because I have smaller hands.

Tankcommander

03-24-2006, 20:56

Tank, I am curious, did you use +p ammo or Winchester 147 gr ammo? The pt92 does have specific ammo specs that forbids the use of hot ammo. Over time hot ammo causes fine fissures and then cracks etc. But then again Im at the 1000 round point on my pt92 so Ill keep you posted if it passes 1500 rounds which is the point where your pt failed..

Zen sorry about the delay in replying, I don't ever recall using +p ammo. It was usually white box 115 grain ammo. I may have used one magazine of hollow points to make sure they would feed, that's it. I cleaned it after every range session and rarely put more then 200 rounds through at a time. It may have been a fluke but its the kind of thing that will put you off a brand forever. Even a great warranty will not encourage me to lay out $500.00 with a personal experience with a failure.

TC

gunrun45

03-24-2006, 22:32

Zen900

03-24-2006, 23:04

zen900: I have used +P rounds in mine (Cor-Bon) without a problem for years. Expect more than normal wear in the barrel block though. THis is not a problem if you replace it every 15,000 to 20,000 rounds or so.

My understanding of why brands like Kimber are so pricey is that these guns are designed for the added pressures of
+p ammo. The Kimber says in the manual that +p is what the gun is designed to withstand.The Taurus lacks the added steel strength of the Kimber. Taurus recommends nothing hotter than 124gr. I paid $324 for my PT 92 new.

Tankcommander

03-25-2006, 11:22

I paid $324 for my PT 92 new.

I paid under $420 for mine first time around and with shipping and new permit my replacement cost me another $80. But I was thinking a new Taurus would cost in the area of $500. Once bitten twice shy.

TC

gunrun45

03-25-2006, 15:44

My understanding of why brands like Kimber are so pricey is that these guns are designed for the added pressures of
+p ammo. The Kimber says in the manual that +p is what the gun is designed to withstand.The Taurus lacks the added steel strength of the Kimber. Taurus recommends nothing hotter than 124gr. I paid $324 for my PT 92 new.

I'm not saying a Taurus is a Kimber. By the way I don't really like the Kimbers that much. I think you pay a lot for the name personally (IMO). But I do think they are a little better than the Taurus, you just pay a LOT more.

FatDaddy

03-26-2006, 17:25

The biggest reason the Taurus is cheaper is it's not made in USA. I'm not sure if Beretta recomends shooting plus p in their action either. Could be that the open top design of the 92 is the reason.

gunrun45

03-26-2006, 22:08

The only problem I've heard with the +P ammo is when some units in the military used MP5 9mm ammo in their sssidearms excessively. Not good. Just keep an eye on that locking block and all is well. It's not like it wears quickly, it takes time and lots of high power ammo to do it. 9mm +P ammo isn't cheap and thus shouldn't be easy to wear a block out for most people as average shooters as it is cost prohibitive. If you're really going ot be shooting a LOT of hot ammo use a Ruger instead :)