Remington 710 vs. 700

[Suspence]

The new Remington model 710 has tons more feautures than the base model 700 ADL, yet retail is about fifty bucks lower. How can this be so? If the model 710 has so many advancements over the 700, and is based on the 700, how can it possibly be cheaper? Is it made to looser tolerances? Is it less accurate?

some new advantageous features the model 710 has as opposed to the 700 ADL:

-3 locking lugs as opposed to 2
-bolt locks into barrel as opposed to into the receiver
-self-lubricating bolt
-60 degree bolt throw as opposed to 90 degrees
-detachable box magazine as opposed to blind, non detachable magazine
-factory installed, bore-sighted Bushnell 3-9x40 scope, as opposed to open sights on 700 ADL

Thanks,
Andrew

[Suspence]

I put this question under smallbore because it seemed the most appropriate place (what are the requisites for a gun to be smallbore? .30 cal. or smaller?).

Anyway, I answered my first question myself by reading the review on Remington's site. The price is cheaper because of they way they designed it and manufactured it: with fewer, cheaper parts and more automation.

Also, accuracy seemed to be a bit lower than that of rifles like the model 700 and Weatherby Vanguard.

Now I have a new question: Is this gun a piece of crap? Would I be better off getting the 700 ADL or a Vanguard (all these would be .270 Winchester, by the way)?

I am a "budget-minded" college student, so keep in mind that I am the guy they are talking about in the article:
"
While hunting rifles running $700 to $1,000 are nice, a market reality check shows that not all shooters can afford them. Remington is to be congratulated for recognizing that and making a corporate commitment to meet this demand with an innovative new product. In the process, it has set a significant standard in affordability for the future of bolt-action rifles.
"

Thanks again,
Andrew

[Nighthawk]

I would not call it a piece of crap,but it has nothing over the Model 700.The gun was released by Remington in .270 and 30-06 at a lower price than the Model 700.All of my Model 700's are BDL's and I think their a great gun.The 710 fills the gap in price and does what it was designed to do.Ive heard both positive and negative remarks about the gun.HTH




Best!! :usa:

[punchie]

Personally, I would prefer one of the Savage "package" deals over the 710. The 710 has only one attribute in common with the 700, a seven in the model number!!!! Every corner that could be cut has been to get it in a price niche. For the occassional hunter that MAY shoot a few boxes of shells per year it is probably fine. IMHO the Weatherby (Howa) Vanguard is a much better rifle but I would still lean towards the Savage.

[Suspence]

Hey guys. Thanks for responding. I stopped looking at the 710 pretty fast! I haven't seen or held one, but I don't like the idea of it. After doing much research on the internet I have decided to go for the Remington 700 ADL in .270 Winchester. I had stopped in my local gun shop to handle a Vanguard, but they only carried the Mark V's, so I checked out a 700 ADL and BDL instead. I want a more solid, reputable firearm that i can shoot cheaply initially (it comes with good open sights, so I don't need a scope right away) and upgrade later. Also seeing as the military and many custom rifle builders use the 700 action as a foundation, I know I can't go wrong with it. It is also supposed to have a nicer, more adjustable (by a gunsmith) trigger than the competition.

I also looked into the Savage rifles, but the ones that come with the accutrigger (varmint and law enforcement models) are only available in short actions and I have my heart set on the .270. However, the hunting rifles still had a very attractive price tag and you're practically guaranteed an accurate rifle with a Savage, but the light weight (greater felt recoil) and reputed coarse triggers turned me off.

If I were to walk in the store today and buy a rifle (i'm going next weekend), I would buy a Model 700 ADL synthetic .270. Of course when I get there (I'm going to one with greater selection this time) I will still handle the other similar makes and models (e.g. Savage 111, Weatherby Vanguard, Ruger 77, Winchester M70, etc...) in case any of them feel nicer.

Thanks again,
Andrew

[ron-dog]

:lol: Suspence,You ought to check out the Win.Model 70's. I have a Win M70,in whats called stealth,it's basically a m70 with a synthetic stock,medium weight barrel.adjustable trigger. The gun shoots great! Now I see that Wally-Mart sells them. Alot less than I paid for mine. Ron <_<

[loco]

I would advise anyone looking to purchase a bolt action rifle to stay away from the Remington 710. The "self lubricating bolt" is the clincher. Inside the receiver on the 700 series, the bolt rides on rails milled into the receiver. However, on the 710, these rails are a type or polymer or plastic (maybe teflon?) attached to the inside of the receiver in which the bolt rides on. It would take a bit of time, but I'm certain this would wear out and give really SLOPPY bolt operations. It use to be that manufacturers built firearms to last a lifetime. WHAT HAPPENED? :(

[adaman04]

Why sell ten rifles for $500 dollars, when we can sell twenty for $300? That's what most gun companies say at least once. Make a rifle that looks cool, price it cheap, and w/o a doubt someone will buy them. I will stick to steel if it is just the same to everyone else. :D