Mosin nagant Ideas

[Bear 1769]

Here is a link that has some Ideas on sporterizing a mosin.
mnsporter (http://www.gswagner.com/mosin-nagant/mnsporter.html)

[wuzzagrunt]

I dunno. That bolt handle looks an awful lot like the lever that raises and lowers my office chair. It went missing about two months ago and now I think I know what happened to it.

[Bear 1769]

LOL, yea the bolt could have ben nicer but I liked how it was mounted so the scope could be mounted lower.

[wuzzagrunt]

There are sniper style bolt bodies available for the Mosin. One of those would be a better choice, I think. Mosins headspace on the cartridge rim and, given the QC standards in the Com-Bloc ammo factories, Mosin Nagant rifles are somewhat prone to extraction problems. Mosin bolt handles are hell for stout and I have no qualms about puting a rubber mallet to any of mine. That guy's bolt handle looks like it will be broken or bent before very long.

The other thing about Mosins is (and this is my real beef): there's nothing you can do to make 'em pretty but you can make them look silly. An M44 beater will have no real collector value in my lifetime so it's not a correct/original vs. sporter issue with me. I'm not a purist, by any means.

He's probably got more $$$ invested and time = money so I'll put my M38 "sporter" up against his on the basis of economy, utility and, visual coolness.

http://ourworld.cs.com/TASMc/scoped38.JPG

It's an unmolested Russian M38 in an M44 laminated stock. It'll shoot into an inch and a quarter with surplus Albanian or S&B commercial ammo. The scope mount can be removed and installed on any of my other carbines in about five minutes flat. That includes reinstalling the rear sight leaf on the stick that wears the scope to begin with.

That's my opinion. I have lot's of them.

[Bear 1769]

Wuzzagrunt, let your opinions fly; life would be boring with out them. Nice looking 38!! I don't like high mounted scopes and have never been a fan of the scout style mount but I am thinking that the scout style might be the way to go. What make is the mount on your mosin?

[wuzzagrunt]

I agree that the scout type mount is not the perfect option. It works well, though. I'm using a 1.5-4x pistol scope and the wide field of view make for quick target pick up. The scope is mounted fairly low and holds up to the stout recoil of the little flame thrower. The mounts are being sold by a gent named Darrell (http://pub113.ezboard.com/fparallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforumsfrm85.showMes sage?topicID=81.topic) on the Parallax C&R boards. Nice unit and a nice guy to do biz wit'.

[Swede]

Way to go Bear.
I like the looks for you project. The stock/barrel are a nice match. It may not be a "high performance" round but it looks like you had a good time doing it.
I have a MN sniper (Not original) that I bought some Winchester ammo for. I haven't shot any of it yet but I did take one round apart. The bullet measures .308 so I was wondering how they would shoot because my barrel slugged at .3105. I just hope it shoots as well as yours does once I start reloading.
Thanks for the info and have fun shooting your rifle.

[SCOOPER]

This past weekend we went shooting.my bud pulled out his beater 44 and sent one down range.problem is the case ruptured and the shell was stuck.we got it out with a cleanning rod but i must say i wasent interested in shooting that thing.shoots something like a 30.03 i think its a 7.32 x 54 i that correct?the rim is strange it sort a angles forward.anyhow i wasent interested in aka boom in my hands.

[wuzzagrunt]

The 7.62x54r is a virtual ballistic twin of the 7.62 NATO <.308>. It is adequate for moose and elk (if you handload with appropriate bullets).

If the case split at the neck, it would indicate an ammo problem. Some of the milsurp Comblock ammo is pretty poor QC-wise. A thorough inspection of all ammo should be performed before it's chambered. This is a real good idea with old milsurp ammo but it can't hurt doing it with new commercial fodder, either. If you open a brand new box of Federal GM, it won't cost you but a half-minute to look it over before you load it up.

The other consideration with old rifles is to check the headspace before firing them. I haven't yet had a Mosin swallow a no-go, but I do it even on rifles with matching numbers. You stand a better chance with a rifle that has been arsenal refurbished.

It is possible to dramatically spike the chamber pressure if a rifle is fired with oil or cosmoline left in the bore.

Additionally, the Ruskies manufactured a sepatate loading of 7.62x54r ammo specifically for machineguns. This stuff is is reported by some to be way-hot and should be avoided in rifles. The ammo is identified by the yellow tip. I can't say that I've tried any or heard of anyone blowing up a Mosin with it--TIFWIW.

[micreek]

hey bear! loved that link to the mosin sporterizeing! that was a hell of a nice rifle for no more money than it looked to have invested in it. oh sure lots of time was was invested but if its like my time, heck it aint werth anything anyway. that scope mount looks exactly like the one on my 340 savage bolt 30-30. that project looks like stuff i used to do when i was married to keep from going in the house!lol happy huntin guys!

[Mr.B]

Hello There,,, Does anyone know if there has ever been a safety mechanism that could be added to the Mosin/Nagant to take the place of using that horrible finger cramping bolt safety. The Russians must have wicked powerful fingers! I saw the picture of the rifle where the guy welded a ring to the bolt to more easily pull the bolt back to put on safe, but it looks kind of corny! Seems like with all them Mosin/Nagants out there now that someone would have come with some easier more practical safety for these nice little carbines. Any ideas? Thanks,,,Mr.B

[Swede]

No, haven't seen anything like that. It would be nice though.

[wuzzagrunt]

You could make the Mosin safety abit more user friendly by cutting a coil or three off the firing pin spring. Legend has it that the Mosin is built to function in some of the most hostile weather conditions imaginable, and the firing pin spring is designed with Siberia in mind. The Mosin will function reliably--in more temperate climes--with the spring tension reduced a bit. This will make opening the bolt less sledgehammer intensive, too.

It's best to experiment with some spare springs. I bought a zip-loc bag full of Mosin springs for less than an arm and a leg.